This seems to make a strong case for hair systems

RogerDoger

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The article and photos are amazing ...

http://www.farrellhair.com/hair-replacement-IMATS.htm

"The challenge of creating a lace hair system that can be buzzed short is nothing new to Richard Farrell. Clients of his award-winning hair replacement salons have been wearing Farrell's revolutionary "Short Cut" hair system for more than two years. The Short Cut hair system - created for daily wear - is hand crafted and utilizes many proprietary knotting techniques that are virtually unknown to the rest of the hair replacement industry. These special knotting techniques allow a perfectly designed hair system, with perfect density, to disappear on the skin, even while exposing the scalp."
 

Basketballhead

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Yea wearing a rug on your head is awesome...it does nothing but make you the butt of everyones jokes and completely depletes all financial resources. Its such a waste of money. Either get a hair transplant, accept your cursed hair style, or just shave your head bald. A rug should never be an option.
 

ToupMaster

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Basketballhead said:
Yea wearing a rug on your head is awesome...it does nothing but make you the butt of everyones jokes and completely depletes all financial resources. Its such a waste of money. Either get a hair transplant, accept your cursed hair style, or just shave your head bald. A rug should never be an option.

Yes, but this Section of the Hairloss Talk Discussions Forums if for those who are interested in information on Wearing, Purchasing, and Maintaining HairSystems. We've heard all the negative opinions, looked into the shaveing of the head and the pills and potions. This small section of the Forums is supposedly reserved for discussion on Hair Pieces, Toupees or whatever you wish to call them. Negative comments and calling people names because they even consider researching the subject is uncalled for and childish. For some, a rug, as you call it is a possible option that we would like to look into and discuss without some punk yelling at us how stupid we are.
 

The Gardener

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Basketballhead, getting an hair transplant is a more severe depletion of resources than are hair systems. And frankly, if you can stand the demands of the maintenance regimen, look a lot better than most hair transplant's.

Sure, a GREAT hair transplant will look awesome, but how much does a truly GREAT hair transplant cost?

All hairloss treatments have their pros and cons.
 

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The Gardener said:
Basketballhead, getting an hair transplant is a more severe depletion of resources than are hair systems. And frankly, if you can stand the demands of the maintenance regimen, look a lot better than most hair transplant's.

Sure, a GREAT hair transplant will look awesome, but how much does a truly GREAT hair transplant cost?

All hairloss treatments have their pros and cons.

180$/3 months > http://www.toplace.com
 

tu pac

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I think that to each his own,but I would have major difficulty excepting the fact that Im so insecure that I would result in glueing some poor china mans(hair clubs main hair resource) hair on my head to feel whole, Im not knokin it thoughif its for you its for you, But somthin about it reminds me of that old horror movie leather face. I hope I didnt offend known.
 

ToupMaster

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The main source of Hair Club for Men units may be China, as you state, thou it doesn't mean they are useing Chinese Hair. Most of the major companys are useing Chinese factorys which are doing some of the best production in the world at this time. Chinese processed hair is one type, personaly I prefer and order Indian Hair. I believe Hair club uses more Indian Hair than Chinese. The Indian Hair is a smaller denier and not as straight as the Chinese. Even if it were Chinese... it may not be from a poor China Man, it just as well could come from a middle income Chinese Woman.

Not that you really needed that info seeing as your not interested in wearing anyone elses hair... but then, since your's is dissapearing... I thought I'd tell you anyway.
 

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Farrell quote "utilizes many proprietary knotting techniques that are virtually unknown to the rest of the hair replacement industry. These special knotting techniques"

Its this type of BS that tries to justify the obscene prices that the industry charges vulnerable people. All these names like miracle graft, invisible skin, micro blah blah lie lie lie...... how do these people sleep at night?
 

ToupMaster

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gray said:
Farrell quote "utilizes many proprietary knotting techniques that are virtually unknown to the rest of the hair replacement industry."

Its this type of BS that tries to justify the obscene prices that the industry charges vulnerable people. All these names like miracle graft, invisible skin, micro blah blah lie lie lie...... how do these people sleep at night?

Kinda hard to imagine a knotting technique unknown to the rest of the industry... how many unknown knots are there? and no one has been able to look at the knot and copy it? What a bunch of bull.

Most hairs (human) are tied with a double knot, so as not to slip, some are tied with a split knot to give fullness, some with a double reverse wet knot, and some with the Farrell secret knot only known to those who also know the handshake.

Personaly the Farrell units I've encountered have nothing different in their knots that I can see... and the units they have revented or re-knotted are of a low standard.... They look great when NEW as do most units... but their re-vents or ad hairs leave much to be desired.
 

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Hi toupmaster. Hopefully you can help me with the following.
In your experience- what is the best knot for human hair?
Also do any particular knots perform better than others with regard to preventing shedding.
Best Wishes
Gray
 

ToupMaster

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The most common knot used with human hair to prevent shedding is the "Double Knot". Human hair has the habit of slipping, knot opening, causing shedding. Single knots or split knots are smaller and look better and are often used around the frontal area. Synthetic fibre only needs a single knot because once the knot has been made and steamed or heated the fibre is locked in place and doesn't slip.

Many of the new bases that are a thin poly or simular material have the hairs injected or looped thru the base... this gives a great natural look, but the hairs arn't going to stay in place as long as knotted hairs. Resulting in the 4 to 12 new units needed per year rather than 1 or 2 conventional knotted units per year.

When your loosing hair, check the mesh or base and see if you still see the knot or hair attached.. if it is still there, then your breaking the hair off for some reason and it's not slipping out.

Does that help?
 

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The best hair system is from a company called Propia. It is undetectable. Don't listen to the people that tell you hair systems are obvious. They haven't seen this. The hair is synthetic bonded to a nanotech base that is 1/3 the thickness of paper and very strong. It is from Japan. One drawback though is that it is expensive. It must be replaced every few weeks. The cost is around $150 every 2 weeks.

I think their email is [email protected]
 

ToupMaster

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sciencedude said:
The best hair system is from a company called Propia. It is undetectable. Don't listen to the people that tell you hair systems are obvious. They haven't seen this. The hair is synthetic bonded to a nanotech base that is 1/3 the thickness of paper and very strong. It is from Japan. One drawback though is that it is expensive. It must be replaced every few weeks. The cost is around $150 every 2 weeks."

It's another "Best Hair System" "Undetectable" Very strong yet needs replacing every 2 weeks.....

This type of system is marketed by many manufacturers and shops as "permagraft" "invisiderm" and oddles of other names.... they are beautiful and as close to undetectable as anyone could want. They are only undetectable when they are replaced OFTEN... every month or as in the above quote every 2 weeks. If a person is willing to put out $300. to 500 a month you too can have wonderful hair. You don't need to go to Japan or order from Japan... It's a japenese salon with a website and you can get the same thing in many places... You guys really need to learn to stop falling for whatever the latest Marketing guy has spit out.
 

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ToupMaster said:
This type of system is marketed by many manufacturers and shops as "permagraft" "invisiderm" and oddles of other names.... they are beautiful and as close to undetectable as anyone could want. They are only undetectable when they are replaced OFTEN... every month or as in the above quote every 2 weeks. If a person is willing to put out $300. to 500 a month you too can have wonderful hair. You don't need to go to Japan or order from Japan... It's a japenese salon with a website and you can get the same thing in many places... You guys really need to learn to stop falling for whatever the latest Marketing guy has spit out.

I haven't seen it in person but on a science tv show called Beyond Tomorrow. It is very thin and strong according to the show Beyond Tomorrow. It is undetectable because it's 1/3 the thickness of paper. Also since it's so thin it lets your scalp breathe and there's no smell

As to whether it's the same as the what Toupmaster is talking about I don't know. I haven't emailed them yet. Yes it is expensive and I'm sure some celebrities must use it or something like it. The big 3, propecia or dutasteride/minoxidil/nizoral, are never going to give you comparable results and there isn't anything else on the horizon at least not that I know of.

This link is from the show:
http://www.beyondtomorrow.com.au/stories/ep2/hair.html
 

MichiganBaldy

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free video

Well I do have a brand new DVD available which shows me using a regular everyday all lace hairpiece, maybe not as good as this newfangled contraption from Japan but we can compare them.

I give it away for free to anyone who wants one, so if you want to compare this to what you saw on beyond tomorrow that would give us an idea of what they have, and a comparison would be so great.

My DVD is about 30 minutes long and it is free, with free shipping just PM me your shipping address or e-mail [email protected] subject line free video include your shipping address and I`ll send you one, no questions ever asked.

brah.........
 

ToupMaster

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gray said:
what is the best knot for human hair?
Also do any particular knots perform better than others with regard to preventing shedding.

Injected hair with no knot in a silicone or poly base gives the best look. A single knot gives more durability with slightly degraded appearance. A split knot gives more loft or fullness. A Double knot is the most durable with human hair and some use a Wet Double Reverse knot. knots tied with 1 or a max of 2 hairs are better in appearance than the old 5 to 10 hairs at a time. Thus came about the "Strand by Strand" selling thingie
 

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Strand by strand is rubbish. Someone is advertising rubbish here.
 
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