Thread About What Is Close To Come Out And Has High Chance Of Working

[coolio]

Follica is likely the closest to something commercial & useful to us.

The outfit is being under-estimated for two reasons:

#1, it isn't claiming gorgeous perfect regrowth with its first product. Just more regrowth than existing options.

#2, it's privately funded unlike most hair multiplication outfits. It doesn't put out a perpetual stream of incomplete data & bullshit timelines just to keep its name in the news.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Lol stfu

Ummm, RU 58851 is a godsend.

 

[That Guy]

Ummm, RU 58851 is a godsend.

I was of the understanding that most people didn't see substantial results from it?

Either way, the idea that forum members are actively achieving superior results via "experimentation" to any of the recent trials or on par with any of the technology behind them is quite honestly insane.

I've seen one guy on here who did make a near full recovery via dermarolling and minoxidil, but he is the only user with such results. Which is why it's ridiculous when people are like "Follica is just dermarolling and minoxdil" when the patents indicate it's more complex than that and there's no way Puretech would poor 10 years worth of funding, need-to-know basis trials and dermatologist-exclusive conferences if they were only achieving results any idiot could get.

There is also no one on here who has, with any measure of success, created human hair from stem cells, devised a treatment that flatout stops hairloss or anything else.

There are, however, many nihilistic posters and no shortage of people getting scammed three times over by Spato. But no, it's totally clinical-stage companies with "their heads in their asses"

 

[sadila]

You've just invited every whiny b**ch on these forums to the ball. Be prepared for an onslaught of fatalism and crying posts.

Anyway, the closest thing it's Shiseido in Japan. Most likely late next year

Either you're delusional or in complete deniale if you think Shiseido is going to make it to market next year.
Let's not forget that their main obstacle isn't solved yet wich is likely to take several years to do so, why i'm saying this ? because others have tried before them and if Shiseido had anything different they would've already solved the problem. I'm not doubting that Tsuji and his team are on the right path to adress baldness and they're our best hope for a "cure" but it certainly won't be next year or two.
And let's say they miracurously solve everything next year and can generate new hair follicles, do you think the treatement will make it to market that easy especially with the high demande ? Shiseido would be sitting on a diamond mine and will be very precautious on how they chose to standarise the procedure for every surgeon/dermatologist or whomever, abd while they're still making money from it. Do you think they'll find the solution to every man's nightmare and set it free for everyone to use ? No i don't think so, they'll have to find a process that allows to keep control and power over their methode and whoever is using and that my friend will take a couple more years in my opinion.

 

[thomps1523]

I will say a prayer for you bud that a cure comes in the next 10 years, as some older forum members on various forums have seen people like you come and go. So much optimism, nearly 1400 posts in 10 months. Go outside and get some fresh air, sitting on hairloss forums all day aint no way to live life.

I've been in here 10 years and have seen all types come and go, but I've never been as excited about upcoming treatments as I am now. I think the trouble with people in here is for some people sheisido Or follica could be a cure. There are others that will require more, and will say a cure isn't coming anytime soon. Is an affordable cure for everyone coming in the next 5 years? Probably not, but several upcoming treatments could be cures if you're and NW3 or better, or at the very least provide you with maintenance until tsuji, or a company like that come out at an affordable price...

 

[NorwoodGuardian]

Either you're delusional or in complete deniale if you think Shiseido is going to make it to market next year.
Let's not forget that their main obstacle isn't solved yet wich is likely to take several years to do so, why i'm saying this ? because others have tried before them and if Shiseido had anything different they would've already solved the problem. I'm not doubting that Tsuji and his team are on the right path to adress baldness and they're our best hope for a "cure" but it certainly won't be next year or two.
And let's say they miracurously solve everything next year and can generate new hair follicles, do you think the treatement will make it to market that easy especially with the high demande ? Shiseido would be sitting on a diamond mine and will be very precautious on how they chose to standarise the procedure for every surgeon/dermatologist or whomever, abd while they're still making money from it. Do you think they'll find the solution to every man's nightmare and set it free for everyone to use ? No i don't think so, they'll have to find a process that allows to keep control and power over their methode and whoever is using and that my friend will take a couple more years in my opinion.

Wait…are you mixing up Shiseido and Tsuji?

 

[NorwoodGuardian]

I've been in here 10 years and have seen all types come and go, but I've never been as excited about upcoming treatments as I am now. I think the trouble with people in here is for some people sheisido Or follica could be a cure. There are others that will require more, and will say a cure isn't coming anytime soon. Is an affordable cure for everyone coming in the next 5 years? Probably not, but several upcoming treatments could be cures if you're and NW3 or better, or at the very least provide you with maintenance until tsuji, or a company like that come out at an affordable price...

I always think NW3 is okay, not perfect but not much impact on your social life and dating girls. This is my experience when I was in NW3. So a treatment that can bring you back 2 NWs is a godsend for most of us and we can't demand too much in short term.

 

[That Guy]

Either you're delusional or in complete deniale if you think Shiseido is going to make it to market next year.
Let's not forget that their main obstacle isn't solved yet wich is likely to take several years to do so, why i'm saying this ? because others have tried before them and if Shiseido had anything different they would've already solved the problem. I'm not doubting that Tsuji and his team are on the right path to adress baldness and they're our best hope for a "cure" but it certainly won't be next year or two.
And let's say they miracurously solve everything next year and can generate new hair follicles, do you think the treatement will make it to market that easy especially with the high demande ? Shiseido would be sitting on a diamond mine and will be very precautious on how they chose to standarise the procedure for every surgeon/dermatologist or whomever, abd while they're still making money from it. Do you think they'll find the solution to every man's nightmare and set it free for everyone to use ? No i don't think so, they'll have to find a process that allows to keep control and power over their methode and whoever is using and that my friend will take a couple more years in my opinion.

Another person who has no idea what they're talking about.

Shiseido doesn't have some "problem" to overcome; as per Phase 1, the treatment works at least to stabilize hairloss. Now, it's about ramping it up, more injections, etc. to see exactly how effective it can be.

You're talking about Tsuji, whose team still plans to carry out their human trials in 2019.

 

[Follisket]

 

[New dimonesion]

I'm still on the lookout for Aclaris. Jak might pove to be the real deal. That is, as long that hair follicles don't really die out in people with male pattern baldness.

 

[Swoop]

I believe the hair transplant market will continue to surge.

Ultimately, at one point in the future we will have access to multiplication of hair follicles. Then the hair transplant clinics/docs can make use of this. I hope that Dr. Tsuji will make this happen (I actually believe it will happen).

Skill level in hair transplant surgery is still relevant now and results are still varying, therefore the reliability isn't extremely high. In other words, some luck is required to get a good result, but as time goes on this will improve also (robotics AI, increased density, increased survival etc).

I hope Shisheido will furthermore prove of some worth.

Companies that have chased drugs for reversal of Androgenetic Alopecia have failed terribly, it's even comical.

Minoxidil is still dominating all the scientists/companies 30-40 years later.

I see this only changing if someone wins the lottery or we develop a better model for the hair follicle to test drugs on.

 

[FutureSaitama]

Guys, yesterday a pigeon shat on my bald head, i think i have new hairs on that spot. I will start a company which will sell topical liposomal pigeon poo, but i need your funds.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Fidia's lotion in 2018, probably 2019.
off-label use of winlevi, probably 2019
off-label use of fevipiprant, probably 2019

Tsuji's hair multiplication will probably cost ~$50,000 when released, sometime in 2023 or so.
Histogen is most likely a scam at this point.

 

[lemoncloak]

Guys, yesterday a pigeon shat on my bald head, i think i have new hairs on that spot. I will start a company which will sell topical liposomal pigeon poo, but i need your funds.

I'll need pictures first. The blurrier and scammier the better.

 

[Captain Rex]

Tsuji's hair multiplication will probably cost ~$50,000 when released, sometime in 2023 or so.

Does anybody have any official information about the price of Tsuji's hair multiplication?

 

[NewUser]

I'm hoping that all of Tsuji and Christiano/Jahoda (Rapunzel), Cotsarelis etc will be able to create new hair for transplanting, injections or whichever method it will be. This would make a difference for the widest range of hair loss disorders including burn and cancer patients young and old. It will be an important achievement regardless of other developments.

And I also have hope for other developments in treating androgenic alopecia with drugs in the form of a topical cream or ointment to perhaps both grow hair and even reverse greying of hair. Recent studies at UT Southwestern suggest the two conditions are linked, or at least in lab mice.

1. “With this knowledge, we hope in the future to create a topical compound or to safely deliver the necessary gene to hair follicles to correct these cosmetic problems.”

Geneticist Angela Christiano said in recent years that once the genetic causes of pattern baldness are better understood, it should be just a matter of finding the right drug combination to grow hair and probably using a topical cream or ointment. An effective topical treatment for Balding would be the most lucrative because more people around the world should be able to afford it as either a prescription or OTC cream in a tube to grow hair. The cheapest fix as long as its effective would be very popular world wide.

 

[Xander94]

Fidia's lotion in 2018, probably 2019.
off-label use of winlevi, probably 2019
off-label use of fevipiprant, probably 2019

Tsuji's hair multiplication will probably cost ~$50,000 when released, sometime in 2023 or so.
Histogen is most likely a scam at this point.

Most probable scenario is completely nothing for 5+ years to come.

 

[Omega2327]

Fidia's lotion in 2018, probably 2019.
off-label use of winlevi, probably 2019
off-label use of fevipiprant, probably 2019

Tsuji's hair multiplication will probably cost ~$50,000 when released, sometime in 2023 or so.
Histogen is most likely a scam at this point.

Why are you so sure Tsuji will be in 2023 and not 2020 or 2021 like the company has said... Sure maybe there is a delay, but it's not really fair to automatically assume so and to be slapping on an arbitrary release date. The company's planned release date of 2020/2021 is the most reliable one we have, therefore that's the one we should use.

I have a question to pose for the group. How confident are we in Shisiedo's ability to "stabilize hairloss". I'm definitely hopeful, but I feel that this phrase they used in their study that they released is very ambiguous. Are they saying they have halted further progression of loss completely? Or are they saying that they have merely slowed it down? I only ask because a lot of people on the forum seem to be putting a lot of confidence in that phrase, but maybe just for my peace of mind, I'd like some insight to ensure that confidence is well placed.

Also, shame on @sadila for posting on here without knowing what the f*** he's even talking about.

 

[Kidbako]

Did it grow hair?

Time will tell.. studies show that if left out of direct sunlight should grow peach fuzz and possibly terminal hair..will give it time and reassess.

 

[That Guy]

Why are you so sure Tsuji will be in 2023 and not 2020 or 2021 like the company has said... Sure maybe there is a delay, but it's not really fair to automatically assume so and to be slapping on an arbitrary release date. The company's planned release date of 2020/2021 is the most reliable one we have, therefore that's the one we should use.

I have a question to pose for the group. How confident are we in Shisiedo's ability to "stabilize hairloss". I'm definitely hopeful, but I feel that this phrase they used in their study that they released is very ambiguous. Are they saying they have halted further progression of loss completely? Or are they saying that they have merely slowed it down? I only ask because a lot of people on the forum seem to be putting a lot of confidence in that phrase, but maybe just for my peace of mind, I'd like some insight to ensure that confidence is well placed.

Also, shame on @sadila for posting on here without knowing what the f*** he's even talking about.

To "stabilize" something means to "make or become unlikely to give way or overturn" or "make or become unlikely to change, fail, or decline."

They even tweeted as much in response to someone a few months back, but Twitter isn't wanting to load that far back at the moment.