Tinder, Bumble, And Other Dating Sites.

[CopeForLife]

Holy ****. I was on OKC and decided to look for a friend with whom I could go out and practice game, so I changed my search to 'men who like women' and left everything else the same. Every single person on there was a NW1. There were even 29 year old NW1s! And people are lying about their body type e.g. a 'thin' person chose 'fit' and an 'average' person chose 'fit' too. I'm pretty sure that they're inflating their height by more than 5% too. But, anyway, this is completely disheartening and I think that I'll give up on that site after my current leads dry up. It's pretty surprising considering how many overweight females are on there. I'm starting to think that a NW6 should know his place, and that place is not in the arms of a woman. LDAR indeed.

tour is over

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

You are over thinking it. If she kissed you that's a good sign.

I've had girls kiss me at the end of the date with nothing following up.

 

[DoctorHouse]

I've had girls kiss me at the end of the date with nothing following up.

I would either call her or text her and ask that she got home safely and let her know you enjoyed her company. See if she responds to you. If she does, its not over yet.

 

[davesmith420]

I went out on a date tonight.

Of the 4 women I've met this year, she's the hottest one. She's about 5'5, nice chest, average size, nice skin and hair. She's smart and well spoken and well traveled. She said she was new in town and didn't respect the food around here, I took her to a Lebanese place and she said it was nice and I had proven the point that there is good food in Baltimore.

With that said I did not put my best foot forward and thus it is unlikely that she will want to see me again. I only made her laugh once. She mentioned she has a degree in psychology and wants to be a clinical psychologist, I made the mistake of telling her I've seen counsellors before -- she probably thinks I have many problems based on that. She said she likes museums, instead of asking her about the museums she's been too or mentioning the nice museums I've been to elsewhere, I said I hadn't gotten around to seeing the Baltimore museums soon and I hoped to see them soon. When the waiter came with the bill, I put in my credit card and she put in hers, I didn't give her back her card and said "oh that's all right, I got it," I lacked assertiveness. I was f*****g weak for the entire date basically.

She didn't want dessert (that's fine). I said I was going for a walk after the date rather than straight home, she said she'd come with me. Then she changed her mind on the basis of being "really tired, wanting to hit the bed".

I was actually surprised she kissed me at the end of the date, she probably did it just to be polite.

I think I bombed this one. I will call her again in a couple days, just to be sure, but very likely this isn't going anywhere.

With the bill pay thing, from my experience some girls will "test" you with this aka see how assertive and dominant you are. I once when on a date with a girl, when it came time to pay she put in money too but I said "Don't worry about it." She responded with "I don't like to let guys pay for me on the first date" and then her and I proceeded to kind of "go at it" about paying for 10 seconds until I just said to myself "f*** it just let her put in money too." This girl was friends with a friend of mine, and she told her that I was an "a**h**" because I didn't pay for her dinner. Lol this is why I've given up on dating and am starting to accepting/settle for jacking off to really fucked up p**rn every night.

And have others have said, kiss = good. If she doesn't see herself dating you, she at least though you were attractive enough for her to put her lips on your lips/face.

 

[hairblues]

With the bill pay thing, from my experience some girls will "test" you with this aka see how assertive and dominant you are. I once when on a date with a girl, when it came time to pay she put in money too but I said "Don't worry about it." She responded with "I don't like to let guys pay for me on the first date" and then her and I proceeded to kind of "go at it" about paying for 10 seconds until I just said to myself "f*** it just let her put in money too." This girl was friends with a friend of mine, and she told her that I was an "a**h**" because I didn't pay for her dinner. Lol this is why I've given up on dating and am starting to accepting/settle for jacking off to really fucked up p*rn every night.

And have others have said, kiss = good. If she doesn't see herself dating you, she at least though you were attractive enough for her to put her lips on your lips/face.

It's such a turn on when a man picks up your bill because it signifies they find you attractive.

It is old school but some things are just a classic and not dated.

I don't mind splitting bills on first dates and I offer--but I'm not going to lie it's a turn-off when they take the money and classy when they don't.

BUT she gave him perfect opening for a follow up date to a museum...he should lock that down.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Thanks for the advice @DoctorHouse (implemented) and @davesmith420 (will be implemented in the future).

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

It's such a turn on when a man picks up your bill because it signifies they find you attractive.

It is old school but some things are just a classic and not dated.

I don't mind splitting bills on first dates and I offer--but I'm not going to lie it's a turn-off when they take the money and classy when they don't.

BUT she gave him perfect opening for a follow up date to a museum...he should lock that down.

More good advice.

I'm glad this thread is being constructive. I wasn't sure if I should start it.

 

[SmoothSailing]

You are over thinking it. If she kissed you that's a good sign.

I've never had a girl turn down a kiss after the date, and yet I've had many failed dates.

Definitely follow up though.

I pay for a date when I was the one who asked her out (which is always). But I don't feel I'm being robbed, I asked her out for dinner, I feel I should pay, but would love if a girl offered to pay. Happened once and I shooed her away instinctively.

 

[Roberto_72]

@David_MPN I think the times are mature so that you don't pay for both parties if you don't feel like it. Some women have started taking advantage of this use.

https://www.google.ch/amp/www.eater...-dates-to-get-free-restaurant-meals-and-blogs

 

[SmoothSailing]

The girl paying for the whole date has happened to me more times than I can remember.

They often pay and then add "this way you owe me and I'll be sure to see you again ".

Some guys overthinks things way too much here.

Don't listen to what women say, especially @hairblues .

Well I don't think into it much and it's way down on the list of things that I worry about before a date.

I have respect for a girl for offering to pay and I'd love if she paid for the whole thing, pretty much guarantees she liked the date.

 

[SmoothSailing]

@David_MPN I think the times are mature so that you don't pay for both parties if you don't feel like it. Some women have started taking advantage of this use.

https://www.google.ch/amp/www.eater...-dates-to-get-free-restaurant-meals-and-blogs
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I went on a date with a girl before, we only went to Eddie Rockets but it was clear she wasn't interested in me at all.

Afterwards I check out her facebook and it's covered in dinner-wh*** memes. Like she was proud of this sh*t.

One was something like this "He's sitting there thinking about the potential and how much he likes me, I'm just here for the free food!".

f*****g b**ch. Felt like such a pathetic moron.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

The girl paying for the whole date has happened to me more times than I can remember.

They often pay and then add "this way you owe me and I'll be sure to see you again ".

Some guys overthinks things way too much here.

Don't listen to what women say, especially @hairblues .

I respect your disagreement with her on strategy, but this thread has made it to fifty pages without eruption, let's try and keep it cordial.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I went on a date with a girl before, we only went to Eddie Rockets but it was clear she wasn't interested in me at all.

Afterwards I check out her facebook and it's covered in dinner-wh*** memes. Like she was proud of this sh*t.

One was something like this "He's sitting there thinking about the potential and how much he likes me, I'm just here for the free food!".

f*****g b**ch. Felt like such a pathetic moron.

Well I don't think into it much and it's way down on the list of things that I worry about before a date.

I have respect for a girl for offering to pay and I'd love if she paid for the whole thing, pretty much guarantees she liked the date.

Two f*****g psychos.

I'd love to post that karma is a b**ch but there's no such thing as karma.

b****s are probably going to get away with it, worst case scenario the daily date girl gained a few lbs, though her picture doesn't suggest it.

 

[DoctorHouse]

The smiley David!

Strategy? That shouldn't even be discussed in my opinion. It's irrelevant.

All you need to worry about is whether that girl wants your c*** inside her or not.

If it's yes, then everything do (from opening with 'hey how are you' online to "accidentally" cumming on her face that night) will be right.

If it's a no, then everything you do will be wrong. Hence why @davesmith420 's date told her friend that he was an a**h**.

LOL for a second I thought it was Shook posting this.

 

[SmoothSailing]

Two f*****g psychos.

I'd love to post that karma is a b**ch but there's no such thing as karma.

b****s are probably going to get away with it, worst case scenario the daily date girl gained a few lbs, though her picture doesn't suggest it.

I don't envy them, I'd rather be ugly incel me than one of those shallow c****.

 

[SmoothSailing]

The smiley David!

Strategy? That shouldn't even be discussed in my opinion. It's irrelevant.

All you need to worry about is whether that girl wants your c*** inside her or not.

If it's yes, then everything do (from opening with 'hey how are you' online to "accidentally" cumming on her face that night) will be right.

If it's a no, then everything you do will be wrong. Hence why @davesmith420 's date told her friend that he was an a**h**.

But a yes is often just a maybe.

Maybe she thinks "he's cute" and agrees to go out but she's also got other guys like that so she's not sure she'll f***. If you're boring, not funny, and awkward she'll likely not want to f***, yet if you're funny, interesting and smooth she will.

Attractiveness is often cheap to girls, they'll likely have many options of guys at your attractiveness level, so you have to play against them using other things.

Or at least that's how I think.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Shroedinger's Pussy.

 

[hairblues]

The girl paying for the whole date has happened to me more times than I can remember.

They often pay and then add "this way you owe me and I'll be sure to see you again ".

Some people overthink things way too much here.

Don't listen to what women say, especially @hairblues .

Bite me Bear-face

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

@DoctorHouse she texted back, maybe I didn't do as badly as I thought. In a few days I'll call her to schedule a second date.

I also need to speak to the other women I've been chatting with to schedule other dates. One woman messaged me off OkC at 4:54 am this morning, (it was a response to something a few days prior), I haven't yet read what she wrote.

 

[shookwun]

I just think that a 5% height lie is reasonable, but more than that is not. Maybe the body type lie is not so bad. But the upshot is that it's impossible to compete when everybody is a NW1. I tried a normal profile and got no replies after over 100 messages sent out over 6 weeks. Now, I have an edgy profile and I get replies but they're only entertained, not interested in a date.

Has anybody here tried using game? Surely, if you did as advised (go out 4 hours per night 4 times per week and make 3 approaches every hour), you'd have something in a month? I could easily imagine myself having a whole year of no success online. I'm looking for somebody to come with me and show me the best game locations for my demographic, and then I might try it.

Game in 2017. Been reading to mush Rooshv

News flash: Picking up women is 90% looks, and 10% listening, and responding mundane crap - 'Mhmm, yep, Oh yeah?, rely?'


Her: Chad was amazing last night, he's so interesting, and thoughtful.

That girl was not into you.

Girls who are into you will be very happy to pay the bill or to swallow your c*m.

Also David, don't listen to hair blues.

Personally, I don't give a f***, but if she insists, I let her pay or we split.

It has 0 influence on my future with that girl.

If she likes me, we'll have sex and she'll be all over me.

If she doesn't, then nothing would have happened no matter what I had done.

This thread is getting into PUA territory.

"To test your dominance" f*****g lol.

Not how human mating works.

Any decent women will go dutch, and pay there half.

When you realy think about it? Why the f*** would you pay for there meal for a person you don't even know or ever met. From my experience, a good women will reject your offer, and insist on paying her half.

With the bill pay thing, from my experience some girls will "test" you with this aka see how assertive and dominant you are. I once when on a date with a girl, when it came time to pay she put in money too but I said "Don't worry about it." She responded with "I don't like to let guys pay for me on the first date" and then her and I proceeded to kind of "go at it" about paying for 10 seconds until I just said to myself "f*** it just let her put in money too." This girl was friends with a friend of mine, and she told her that I was an "a**h**" because I didn't pay for her dinner. Lol this is why I've given up on dating and am starting to accepting/settle for jacking off to really fucked up p*rn every night.

And have others have said, kiss = good. If she doesn't see herself dating you, she at least though you were attractive enough for her to put her lips on your lips/face.

Had nothing to do with paying for the dinner. Women like to indirectly quote an experience that has nothing to do with the main reason why she thought you were an a**h**.