Transdermal Prohormones - Opinions please from lifters.

[VoRteX]

I just copied this from a reply to another post but I wanted to make it a topic since I know some lifters are here that have used roids and other supps like ph's. You guys think I would be safe with this regarding gyno/hairloss if I only do it for maybe 3 weeks and stay at conservative doses?

I have purchased a set of transdermal prohormones but I'm going to keep them on ice for several months until I get to my goal bodyfat before I try them. I wanted to go ahead and get them before they are outlawed.

I will be taking 19nordiol-converts to nandrolone(supposedly safe for hairloss), 4ad(turns into test but only going to use a small dose), and formestane for estro control(all transdermals) Post cycle I will be taking nolvadex and 6oxo. I probably wont try this cycle for another 6months, I'm nervous about it regarding hairloss and gyno.

 

[WS6-TA]

I am an avid Lifter too, and have been considering using a PH sometime next spring. I am reaching a plateau where I can't seem to gain any more.
I am thinking or doing a short 4 week cycle of Norderm (19-nordiol) and see what happens. How long are you planning your cycle? I have read that the nor-diol's are safe for hairloss and can produce good gains.
If you find any good info let me know, and keep me posted when you start your cycle.

 

[Redbone]

You guys are playing with fire, just shave your heads like most bodybuilders and do as many pro-hormones as you please. There is other routes that are better. You will do your 4 week cycle gain 6lbs and loose some hair. After the cycle you will loose all aquired muslce in less than 3 weeks and loose valuable hair, not a good trade off.

 

[WS6-TA]

I guess the cons out weigh the pros...It just sucks. Some of my friends are doing serious cycles (deca, winny) and not loosing any hair. It's hard when you are dht sensitive. Not only do I have thinning hair, I wont be able to get bigger.

 

[Redbone]

Sure you will eat whey protein Isolate three times a day and do a Amino growth hormone cycle like me. I can give you some tips.

Dude steroids are temporary anyway, I know so many guys and girls who went on them and looked great for a month or two then went off and shrunk up to a pathetic size.

You want to build size the main thing is eat and eat allot. Three whey shakes a day with 2g of Glutamine in each. Morning post workout and nightime before bed.

Any thing that raises test will make your hair suffer badly. I have seen a shitload of bald body builders in my day, hell I am one?

 

[Olorin]

Remember that prohormones affect the body just like steroids do. Good idea for the post cycle, but you dont necessarily have to keep the nolva for the end. As soon as you feel any tingling, swelling or soreness in the nipple area start at about 20mg of Nolva a day. Don't wait too long, once the gyno sets in only surgery will get rid of it.

As for the 6oxo. Common opinion is that it's worthless. PH will suppress you sexually almost as bad as steroids so be prepared for that.

To get your test back in gear I would suggest Avena Sateva, tribulus and maca. You can find these in powder form for very good prices at

http://www.beyond-a-century.com/faqs.html

 

[WS6-TA]

Red: Can you pm me some info as to a good bulking cycle. I would like to gain some decent size over the winter months and then cut for next summer.
thanks

 

[Redbone]

Sure just tell me what your interested in doing?

 

[VoRteX]

I've read much good feedback on the 6oxo.

My cycle should be safe for hairloss except for the 4ad, but I'm only going to use a 1/2 dose of that to offset the suppression that comes from 19-nordiol.

I'm going to use transdermal formestane during the cycle for estro suppression(maybe) and might even take the nolva throughout the cycle just to be sure. I have all the stuff now but I wont be trying it for several more months until I get to my goal. Hell, I may end up never taking it. I guess I gotta try it at some point since I spent all the $$ on it.

I do agree its risky tho.

I do train/eat effectively and take whey/glut supps

 

[Trilidon]

If your smart you can retain alot of your gains from steroids =P

 

[HairyN]

nordiol is the safest PH as far as PH's go but remember nothing is completely safe

i did a 2 1/2 week cycle before cutting it short due to hairloss...yes i did get increased shedding from noraderm from avant labs....i got 10 lbs of lean mass from it...but did still lose hair

btw i also used the 6-Oxo post cycle...also made my hair look like ***...it definately raises test levels like it states...i was always on the edge and pissed while i was on it