Transplanted Front Hairline in front of Hair System

TheHighGuy69

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I used to wear a hair system but started shaving my head instead because the front hairline was a dead giveaway (no matter what hair system advertisements tell you, you need constant maintenance and the correct lighting for the front hairline to seem indistinguishable from a normal one). My balding was also pretty advanced, so I was not a good candidate for hair transplant surgery. But then I had an idea, why not combine a transplanted front hairline with a hair system in the back. I told my plan to a hair transplant surgeon (the same one who honestly told me I wasn't a good candidate before) about my idea and he said he had patients who used that method and were very happy with the results. It could even be done in a simple surgery, since only the front hairline was needed.
But I can't find ANY kind of information on this type of procedure or even if it is a good idea. But I can never go back to a shaved head if I do this, because of the scar. I have never had an operation of this caliber (never broken a bone or ever even stayed overnight in a hospital, hell I've never even had stitches!) and am incredibly nervous. It seems surreal to me, almost, that I would have a procedure like this done to alter the way I look, despite knowing I would be happier looking that way again (with my hair back).

Can anyone please throw me some advice, or links to similar procedures, or questions to ask my doctor, or ANYTHING? I have been thinking about this for almost a year now, mulling it over, and I just can't decide because I have too little information!



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I am only 27 despite being bald, so I have a young face that would not appear out of place with a restored hairline. I am also able to wear hats to class (law school) and am comfortable telling people that I merely had a hair transplant (leaving out the part about the hair system of course). I shave so close that few people can tell I am naturally bald, they just assume I shave it for style, so that lessens the awkwardness as well.



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Here are the pictures that my doctor drew of the proposed hairline, which I will ask to make a little less wide so that the hairline is thicker.

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I used to wear a hair system but started shaving my head instead because the front hairline was a dead giveaway (no matter what hair system advertisements tell you, you need constant maintenance and the correct lighting for the front hairline to seem indistinguishable from a normal one). My balding was also pretty advanced, so I was not a good candidate for hair transplant surgery. But then I had an idea, why not combine a transplanted front hairline with a hair system in the back. I told my plan to a hair transplant surgeon (the same one who honestly told me I wasn't a good candidate before) about my idea and he said he had patients who used that method and were very happy with the results. It could even be done in a simple surgery, since only the front hairline was needed.
But I can't find ANY kind of information on this type of procedure or even if it is a good idea. But I can never go back to a shaved head if I do this, because of the scar. I have never had an operation of this caliber (never broken a bone or ever even stayed overnight in a hospital, hell I've never even had stitches!) and am incredibly nervous. It seems surreal to me, almost, that I would have a procedure like this done to alter the way I look, despite knowing I would be happier looking that way again (with my hair back).

Can anyone please throw me some advice, or links to similar procedures, or questions to ask my doctor, or ANYTHING? I have been thinking about this for almost a year now, mulling it over, and I just can't decide because I have too little information!



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I am only 27 despite being bald, so I have a young face that would not appear out of place with a restored hairline. I am also able to wear hats to class (law school) and am comfortable telling people that I merely had a hair transplant (leaving out the part about the hair system of course). I shave so close that few people can tell I am naturally bald, they just assume I shave it for style, so that lessens the awkwardness as well.


:worthless:

Do you have photos?

Does your shaved head look that bad?
 

TheHighGuy69

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I added pics, but its not really about how good or bad my shaved head looks. I know I look fine right now. But I know I would look awesome with my hair back. Which is kind of the source of my decision paralysis.
 

SayifDoit

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Get a fue hair transplant instead of fut.
NO scar.

BETTER. Make sure to investigate the clinic.
 

TheHighGuy69

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good idea... please stay here for sharing ur results...

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did ur wig kill the few hair left on ur scalp ?


The hair system didn't really cause any noticeable friction alopecia. The thing is I have been losing my hair since I turned 16. By 17 it was noticeably thinner than everyone else's. By 21, it was barely there. I started shaving it at 22 because in direct sunlight it appeared as though I had zero crown hair. You could see right through it. I started trying hair systems around 21, in an attempt to salvage a once great society of hair. But the front hairline gave it away every time. Otherwise, not a big deal/uncomfortable.

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Get a fue hair transplant instead of fut.
NO scar.

BETTER. Make sure to investigate the clinic.


Is FUE just trading a line scar with a whole lot of little dot scars? That is almost worse...
 

SayifDoit

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*facepalm*

Actually look online.
Not even visible to the naked eye....

Look for a good clinic, and as I said investigate/research the clinic.
 

TheHighGuy69

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*facepalm*

Actually look online.
Not even visible to the naked eye....

Look for a good clinic, and as I said investigate/research the clinic.

I was always under the impression that they look like tiny light colored scars on the scalp. I'll look it up, but can a single FUE operation leave an entire hairline?
 

TheHighGuy69

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UPDATE
Ok, I have narrowed my procedure to two doctors. They are 1) Dr. Nussbaum of Abilenehair.com or 2) Dr Epstein from foundhair.com. I also found some pictures of someone else having the same procedure.1631001171_3BB903983D138B11EA26199FFD0AD61A.JPG2631001171_CB4330B5BF5968E3624C11087D51B20B.JPG4531001171_4111FC2749E1A8A2028F9329CE3E1C28.JPG5531001171_50ADE69099340E7E4A69DD002E33EAF1.JPG6531001171_04CB526DADD4DC2D2F0D0900C5FDF019.JPG8531001171_5061B213B2CC91B3A501CA6EB54A3D88.JPG9531001171_ACCB4C88F3DDD60D5A8F6FCFB1D00C6F.JPG

As you can see, the plan seems to have worked for this individual. I also did my second consultations with both doctors and have redrawn a new 'hairline' so it would be somewhat narrower.
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But I am STILL paralyzed by indecision. Both doctors told me that I would probably need a second transplant for extra thickness, and the both of them (Nussbaum less so) are not so enthused by the idea of blending a hair system with a transplanted hairline. In order to proceed, I have decided that I need to see, with my own eyes IN PERSON, someone who has had this kind of procedure.

I am completely willing to fly out and meet someone for that purpose on my own expense (hell, I'll even pay for lunch), but how would I go about finding someone like that?


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If anyone has any reccomendations of critiques of the two doctors I have listed, PLEASE let me know. This forum is literally my only 'support group'. And while I'm at it, I'd like to thank the community on this forum for helping me out so much. Thanks guys. Truly. It means a lot!
 

dreamermerlin

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Interesting idea, but is it ok that you should buy/maintain hair systems for the rest of your life? Wouldn't it be too much hassle?
If i were you, i would seek a very very good surgeon who could try to fill all your bald area, yes maybe you would get very thin hair, but buzzed short, and shorter on sides/back maybe there's a possibility it would look decent.
I don't think it's impossible
Always better some hair(even low density) on top than no hair on top.
I think we shouldn't be that greedy and want the 16 year old density. It's just too much, i think, we should be more realistic and down to earth, don't want to bother you.
Of course it will look good and thick with your method, but is it worth the hassle with hair systems?
 

TheHighGuy69

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You are supposed to buy 2 hair systems per year (if you take care of them) for about 150-200 each (33 USD per month). Since I don't have to bother with the front hairline, I also don't have to bother with glue. And considering the maintenance requirements of a taped system, it turns out to be WAY less time consuming than shaving your head every two days.

As for a full hair transplant, I am a norwood 6 and am NOT in any way a good candidate for a full hair transplant. Besides, I would rather shave my head than have the kind of moth eaten barely there hair that would result from a hair transplant on a norwood 6. Several doctors (including Dr. Nussbaum) have refused that proposal when I first brought it up.
 

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UPDATE
Ok, I have narrowed my procedure to two doctors. They are 1) Dr. Nussbaum of Abilenehair.com or 2) Dr Epstein from foundhair.com. I also found some pictures of someone else having the same procedure.View attachment 25405View attachment 25406View attachment 25407View attachment 25408View attachment 25409View attachment 25410View attachment 25411

As you can see, the plan seems to have worked for this individual. I also did my second consultations with both doctors and have redrawn a new 'hairline' so it would be somewhat narrower.
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But I am STILL paralyzed by indecision. Both doctors told me that I would probably need a second transplant for extra thickness, and the both of them (Nussbaum less so) are not so enthused by the idea of blending a hair system with a transplanted hairline. In order to proceed, I have decided that I need to see, with my own eyes IN PERSON, someone who has had this kind of procedure.

I am completely willing to fly out and meet someone for that purpose on my own expense (hell, I'll even pay for lunch), but how would I go about finding someone like that?


P.S.
If anyone has any reccomendations of critiques of the two doctors I have listed, PLEASE let me know. This forum is literally my only 'support group'. And while I'm at it, I'd like to thank the community on this forum for helping me out so much. Thanks guys. Truly. It means a lot!

You can't talk to 1 of the 2 doctors and ask for them to call up a former patient to see if you can just see the end results and ask a few questions. I am sure most patients before you are going to be understanding as obviously, they wanted to take the step in bettering the situation.
 

TheHighGuy69

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I don't think my doctor will agree to that. Not only is the procedure extremely rare (educated guess) but you have to ask yourself. "Would you show up at your doctor's office to show someone your transplanted hair, with no other incentive than the doctor's request? In the middle of a work day?"
 

brad2014

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I don't think my doctor will agree to that. Not only is the procedure extremely rare (educated guess) but you have to ask yourself. "Would you show up at your doctor's office to show someone your transplanted hair, with no other incentive than the doctor's request? In the middle of a work day?"

If what he has done is so rare, I doubt I would want him doing it regardless.... Just saying
I don't think it's out of reach to ask, tell him the truth, you want to see the real deal results. What's the worse that can happen, Doctor says no? He says he'll call up an old patient to see if they will say yes, and the Doctor says he said no? just ask bro
 

TheHighGuy69

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If what he has done is so rare, I doubt I would want him doing it regardless.... Just saying
I don't think it's out of reach to ask, tell him the truth, you want to see the real deal results. What's the worse that can happen, Doctor says no? He says he'll call up an old patient to see if they will say yes, and the Doctor says he said no? just ask bro


Fair enough advice and I'll probably call him up tomorrow about it. But I would still like to ask forum users if they have had a similar procedure and if we could arrange a 'viewing' (lol).

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If what he has done is so rare, I doubt I would want him doing it regardless.... Just saying
I don't think it's out of reach to ask, tell him the truth, you want to see the real deal results. What's the worse that can happen, Doctor says no? He says he'll call up an old patient to see if they will say yes, and the Doctor says he said no? just ask bro

Also, it's not that the procedure is necessarily rare, because its just a normal hair transplant, just concentrated to a specific area. So the method is very routine, but the placement is rare. The fact that this procedure has no actual name is another barrier.
 

dreamermerlin

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You are supposed to buy 2 hair systems per year (if you take care of them) for about 150-200 each (33 USD per month). Since I don't have to bother with the front hairline, I also don't have to bother with glue. And considering the maintenance requirements of a taped system, it turns out to be WAY less time consuming than shaving your head every two days.

As for a full hair transplant, I am a norwood 6 and am NOT in any way a good candidate for a full hair transplant. Besides, I would rather shave my head than have the kind of moth eaten barely there hair that would result from a hair transplant on a norwood 6. Several doctors (including Dr. Nussbaum) have refused that proposal when I first brought it up.

Your logic seems fine. But a 150 dollar system really lasts 6 months in good conditions?
But if you say you used them before, i think you know perfectly.
 

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I don't mean to throw a monkey wrench into your inquiry, but I was thinking in retrospect about my former hair transplant and hair piece/system experience. More specifically were I to do it all over again I believe I would have my restoration concentrated on my frontal-mid-scalp region and then add the system wearing it behind the transplanted sight. Whether your present donor situation can afford you this "ideal scenario" begs to be questioned. In the event that you decide a hair system no longer suits your life style, you will still be enhanced by the aesthetic reward of the unanimously approved "Framed Face"and in a sense quite literal and figurative, you'll be able to put your hair loss behind you. I hope you have this option and think about your decision more carefully and calmly than I did. All the best.:sun:

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Also it might be valuable to mention that body hair (chest,beard), in the capable hands of an experienced surgeon is also a viable addition to incorporate/integrate into your transplant procedure. The cosmetic value and bonus of BHT is gaining more popularity as a resourceful and sustainable approach for those of us whom suffer extreme hair loss and donor hair deficits. It can work in your favor and deserves more exploration.
 

TheHighGuy69

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Your logic seems fine. But a 150 dollar system really lasts 6 months in good conditions?
But if you say you used them before, i think you know perfectly.


If you don't use glue (commonly used for the front hairline for stealth purposes) and you use lace release for the tape (so when you take it off you don't pull hairs through the lace), there is no reason why it shouldn't last 6 months.

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I don't mean to throw a monkey wrench into your inquiry, but I was thinking in retrospect about my former hair transplant and hair piece/system experience. More specifically were I to do it all over again I believe I would have my restoration concentrated on my frontal-mid-scalp region and then add the system wearing it behind the transplanted sight. Whether your present donor situation can afford you this "ideal scenario" begs to be questioned. In the event that you decide a hair system no longer suits your life style, you will still be enhanced by the aesthetic reward of the unanimously approved "Framed Face"and in a sense quite literal and figurative, you'll be able to put your hair loss behind you. I hope you have this option and think about your decision more carefully and calmly than I did. All the best.:sun:

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Also it might be valuable to mention that body hair (chest,beard), in the capable hands of an experienced surgeon is also a viable addition to incorporate/integrate into your transplant procedure. The cosmetic value and bonus of BHT is gaining more popularity as a resourceful and sustainable approach for those of us whom suffer extreme hair loss and donor hair deficits. It can work in your favor and deserves more exploration.


Like I said before, I am a norwood 6 and have a very limited options. It is literally 1) shave or 2) transplanted front hairline with a hair system behind it. Most surgeons will just send a norwood 6 home.
 

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I think this is a really good idea. Please keep us posted and let us know how this works out for you. Honestly the only thing stopping me from getting an FUE is that I am 24 and I have a family full of NW7s. If I can wear a piece behind the grafts and it looks convincing, the problem of running out of donor hair is basically solved.
 

I.D WALKER

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My apologies. I misread your original post and got your plan of action totally reversed and thought you were resigned to wear your hair system up front. Do you meet the criteria for a BHT? Again in the right surgeon's hands beard hair and even chest hair show promise. Good luck.
If you don't use glue (commonly used for the front hairline for stealth purposes) and you use lace release for the tape (so when you take it off you don't pull hairs through the lace), there is no reason why it shouldn't last 6 months.

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Like I said before, I am a norwood 6 and have a very limited options. It is literally 1) shave or 2) transplanted front hairline with a hair system behind it. Most surgeons will just send a norwood 6 home.
 
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