Treatment of male pattern baldness.... results from 1988!

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Jacob said:
There is absolutely nothing unique about Revivogen- see the threads linked to above. Oh btw..each company told me their products also contain the FA's in "Free Form".
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OH REALLY?? I guess the thing you need to do now is decide whether or not you BELIEVE them. Good luck on that!

Another thing you could try doing is ask them exactly how much of those "free-form" fatty acids are supposedly in those products. GLA (like what you get from a chemical company) is very expensive. Let's see how honest they are when you ask them how they get those "free-form" fatty acids, and how much of them are really in their products! :mrgreen:

The bottom-line is that they may be telling the truth, if they use the same method that Revivogen uses, to get fatty acids. But are they as smart as the people who make Revivogen? I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. Talk to those other people again, and get their answers to the questions I posed above.
 
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Hey genius.....the point is there is no reason to BELIEVE Revivogen. But if you do..there's no reason to doubt any other company if they would say- sure, ours are in the free form as well. Again..there is nothing unique about Revivogen. The only thing "smart" about them is their marketing. Like when they supposedly used liposomes and actually talked about it on their website.
See the discussions I linked to above. Also see the products I listed and their ingreds lists.
 
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Let us end these esoteric musings about free form fatty asses, err, I mean acids.

The majority of posters here want to know whether or not Revivogen works; that is all. I have used the product, and I can tell you unequivocally that it does not.
 
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Jacob said:
Hey genius.....the point is there is no reason to BELIEVE Revivogen.
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Sure there is; they were in fact the first, and quite possibly remain the ONLY product ever to use free-form fatty acids as 5a-reductase inhibitors. We should all acknowledge that as an important feat! :)

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But if you do..there's no reason to doubt any other company if they would say- sure, ours are in the free form as well.
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How do you know they're telling the truth, and not just trying to make a quick buck on Revivogen's good name?? Anybody can CLAIM that his product contains "free-form fatty acids", but does he really have the smarts to know how to produce them? :dunno:

Jacob said:
Again..there is nothing unique about Revivogen. The only thing "smart" about them is their marketing. Like when they supposedly used liposomes and actually talked about it on their website.
See the discussions I linked to above.
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Revivogen is unique in that it was the FIRST (and may well be the ONLY) product that uses free-form fatty acids.

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Also see the products I listed and their ingreds lists.
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There's nothing in those "ingreds lists" that says anything about the exact chemical nature of the fatty acids, dumbbell. I told you in a previous post to call or email those people, and try to get them to TELL you more about the exact ingredients in their products, and (maybe even more important) how they obtain them
 
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You can claim they're the first..all you want. You can claim they said this..said that..all you want. You can even actually BELIEVE what they say- all you want(I've posted other examples where they weren't telling the truth and/or could not provide any evidence or even a response to what they were saying/claiming). Nothing on their website..nothing on their labels/ingredients list ..is any different from what the other companies say/list.

Revivogen has such the smarts that they don't even have anything in their ingredients list that would make the product liposomal. Which they claimed until, I guess, certain ppl questioned them on it. Just one example besides this FFFA issue.

There's nothing in Revivogen's "ingreds list" that says anything about the exact chemical nature of the fatty acids, dumbbell. Or on their website, etc. I realize your memory is shot..but our previous discussions on this cover that as well. There is absolutely nothing unique about Revivogen.
 
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Jacob and Bryan are the same person! Go to HLH and search for "jacob and bryan". Admin found out that they belong to the same IP so he deleted bryan so he wouldn't artificially increase his post count and that's why ONLY JACOB exists on HLH... they're the same person and they're pulling the same sh*t on this forum all because TO INCREASE THEIR POST COUNT. I swear to god someone do something
 
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Jacob said:
You can claim they're the first..all you want. You can claim they said this..said that..all you want. You can even actually BELIEVE what they say- all you want(I've posted other examples where they weren't telling the truth and/or could not provide any evidence or even a response to what they were saying/claiming). Nothing on their website..nothing on their labels/ingredients list ..is any different from what the other companies say/list.
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There's a simple and obvious reason why their labels/ingredients lists and websites all say similar things about their products: having a detailed and technical discussion of chemistry (especially considering the biological properties of fatty acids) is well beyond the scope of what an average person can understand, when it comes to applying chemicals to his scalp to treat his hairloss. But the makers of Revivogen did go into technical detail about those things, when they were originally asked about these issues, back on HLH (including by ME!!). They explained in considerable detail about the huge importance of "free-form fatty acids", because they were ASKED by other members of that group why people couldn't simply apply natural oils, since such oils contained lots of LA, ALA, GLA, etc. So we FORCED the Revivogen people to reveal the important details of how Revivogen actually works! :)

The same may not be true of all the other products which try to make a buck on Revivogen's good name: they may simply be using cheap natural oils, or simply CLAIMING to use free-form fatty acids, without actually doing so. This is where YOU come in: for the third time, I'm telling you to contact those people again, and quiz them about exactly how they produce their product! After hearing what they say, let's see if you STILL believe that they use "free-form fatty acids"! :mrgreen:
 
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They sell Omega 3-6-9 as a pill at the vitamin store with the perfect ratios of oils to each other.

Wouldn't that be the right balance to take rather than trying to find out yourself?
 
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I promised to never try these "natural" remedies as I've felt cheated in the past

However, I started taking fish oil recently to see if it helps with some gym related problems and saw that it has other benefits concerning a disease I've had for years. Then I found this topic

I'm primarily looking to find relief to my other symptoms, and I was advised to take these ratios, but if I see any benefits concerning hair, I'll keep you posted

I'm supposed to keep the routine for two months, right now my intake is 1294mg EPA / 506mg DHA daily. Obviously just pills, diet might influence them.

Any other suggestions are welcomed, as long as it's not expensive and I can't include more DHA
 
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elvis123 said:
http://www.jigsawhealth.com/resources/omega-fatty-acid

This article states that the American diet is way too high in Omega 6 oils already, so maybe just using Omega 3 oils would be good enough.

http://www.lisanelsonrd.com/blog/do-i-n ... 6-together

This article is very interesting too
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Yeah..I'd look more at the Omega 3's as well. I think ppl are missing out on Omega 7 too..as found in Seabuckthorne oil etc.
 
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elvis123 said:
http://www.jigsawhealth.com/resources/omega-fatty-acid

This article states that the American diet is way too high in Omega 6 oils already, so maybe just using Omega 3 oils would be good enough.

http://www.lisanelsonrd.com/blog/do-i-n ... 6-together

This article is very interesting too
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I've always been advised (by people in the know) to avoid taking any supplements with Omega 6 in. Omega 3's all you need with a westernised diet.

(I have a lame hypothesis about whether or not taking fish oil and Efalex for so long might've slowed down my own male pattern baldness to some extent, but that's unprovable either way.)
 
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hey guys, im 16 and i remember having a red scalp since i was 13 or so, my mum would always tell me its normal or a bit of sunburn. This is what my hair looks like now

http://s1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg615/douglasmich/

Me and my doctor belive its from inflamation, My dht is low as hell, i dont even have underarm hair haha, if i took finasteride i know i would get sides because my dht is already low

Well i fixed the inflamation with some steroids and nizoral/revita once a week, and its been 3 months ( how long Doctor said it would take) im going to see him today, Is this possible? the inflamation caused it, being diffuse aswell, and since we got rid of the inflamation it will regrow??

If not i have some 5% minoxidil il use once a day, but i dont wanna f*** my face up


Thanks guys :)
 
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bigentries said:
I promised to never try these "natural" remedies as I've felt cheated in the past

However, I started taking fish oil recently to see if it helps with some gym related problems and saw that it has other benefits concerning a disease I've had for years. Then I found this topic

I'm primarily looking to find relief to my other symptoms, and I was advised to take these ratios, but if I see any benefits concerning hair, I'll keep you posted

I'm supposed to keep the routine for two months, right now my intake is 1294mg EPA / 506mg DHA daily. Obviously just pills, diet might influence them.

Any other suggestions are welcomed, as long as it's not expensive and I can't include more DHA
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Would definitely keep track of how your hair and scalp respond. As stated previously, we've been through this whole borage and fish oil thing before with less than flattering results. But I am encouraged by the study provided that uses primrose oil.
 
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Kirby said:
I've always been advised (by people in the know) to avoid taking any supplements with Omega 6 in. Omega 3's all you need with a westernised diet.

(I have a lame hypothesis about whether or not taking fish oil and Efalex for so long might've slowed down my own male pattern baldness to some extent, but that's unprovable either way.)
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Just because the American diet contains a high amount of Omega 6 doesn't necessarily mean that it contains a high amount of Gamma-linolenic acid that the body can use. People supplement Omega 6 to insure that they receive a significant amount of GLAs.
 
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