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Because they live there lol. It's not IMPOSSIBLE to go there and do it. It's just like voter suppression 101.
Tsuji - News Successfully Developed An Expansion Method Of Hf Derived Stem Cells
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Well what the f*** does it matter where they live? All Tsuji's team has said is that they are initially launching treatment in Japan "to the general public." There is no mention about restricting access to Japanese citizens. So as far as I'm concerned, if I can make an appointment, hop on a flight to Japan, and pay $$$, then I can receive treatment. And I'll believe that unless they say differently. So let's not start making arbitrary claims that stem from no factual evidence whatsoever, k? Rumors are a nasty thing.
No, everyone is missing the point.
It's not that they would artificially limit it
It's that they could easily satisfy their target number from Japan alone.
You'd better believe that there would be 10,000 balding guys in Japan willing to shell out for this year after year and they will be first to the line up for obvious reasons.
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Seems like you didn't understand what I said. It's just an activation barrier to spend the capital to go there, arrange a stay, coordinate the culturing of your cells and undergo the procedure, all in a country in which people primarily speaks a different language. This is obviously why it is more accessible to the Japanese who live there than everyone else, not by law, but in practice.
That's where the analogy to voter suppression came in. Voter suppression occurs when people in particular districts are legally eligible to vote but the voting offices are far away or operate at awkward times to greatly inconvenience the voters and effectively lower turn out.
Chill the f*** out man. I didn't create or spread a rumor. If it is only initially available in Japan, then it is more difficult to access from outside Japan. That's just logic. Did you read the part in my previous post where I disclaimed that it is of course not impossible to get it done?
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It's like a next-gen hair transplant, but the benefits it would offer exceed "infinite donor".
You can control all aspects of the hair growth and it will look completely natural
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God bless you Tsuji. This nightmare is almost over!
I strongly doubt that they will limit this to Japanese citizens. Japan is a very homogenous society and they'll need a large sample population for all the different races and their unique hair types.
I strongly doubt that they will limit this to Japanese citizens. Japan is a very homogenous society and they'll need a large sample population for all the different races and their unique hair types.
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Okay Baldies New Rule. I don't care if it is your father, son, daughter, wife, boyfirend, girlfriend, brother, sister, uncle, aunt, nephew, niece, hooker, escort, side piece, best friend since birth, a guy or girl you owe your life to.
We keep this sh*t on the down low until we get treated first. We are all dedicated people who visit the sh*t out of this forum daily, waiting for posts like the one we got today. We are the ones who are checking multiple times a day for a glimmer of hope not them.
So. Keep this on the hush so WE can get what we are so dedicated to fixing fixed first.
Cheers
PS If we could somehow work with Tsuji so that our members get first opportunity to get treated (if the funds are not an issue of course) as he and his team have been in touch with Admin and Noisette that would be insane and amazing.
Hopefully if @hellouser gets to meet the guys he can represent us and bring it up casually and see how they feel about that. I got the money already and am willing to do it today!!
We keep this sh*t on the down low until we get treated first. We are all dedicated people who visit the sh*t out of this forum daily, waiting for posts like the one we got today. We are the ones who are checking multiple times a day for a glimmer of hope not them.
So. Keep this on the hush so WE can get what we are so dedicated to fixing fixed first.
Cheers
PS If we could somehow work with Tsuji so that our members get first opportunity to get treated (if the funds are not an issue of course) as he and his team have been in touch with Admin and Noisette that would be insane and amazing.
Hopefully if @hellouser gets to meet the guys he can represent us and bring it up casually and see how they feel about that. I got the money already and am willing to do it today!!
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I'm with you on this. I don't know who started this idea that only Japanese people would receive treatment in the early years but I don't think that's what's going to happen.
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Lol they'll prolly think you're nuts anyway if you tell them. There's only one intellectually curious friend of mine that actually thinks the technology is interesting. Most people give me a weird look for just simply knowing as much about balding as I do. Whatever
I'm ok to be in the front of the line.I don't know why people can't accurately read posts.
Again, if their goal is 10,000 people "globally" at least to start, that is an insanely small number of people and could easily be met by residents of Japan alone.
The day the surgeons start announcing they'll treat people, do you really think that most of their customers are going to be foreigners in one of the most densely populated countries on Earth? The foreigners will likely be pretty far down the list due to obvious reasons why Japanese customers would be able to beat them to it.
They've stated numerous times that hair thickness, etc. can all be controlled so unless the person administering it is a moron, it should in theory look totally natural.
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This (if its what we think it is) can make you look like you did before hair loss even crossed your mind as more than a "oh it might come some day". They can manipulate the hair density and if they implanted in uniform yes that would look abnormal this is why you get a good surgeon and most wouldnt do that anyway.
Tsuji vs. male pattern baldness
And I don't know why some people can't think before they post.
Just because they're saying (at this time) that they'll only treat 10,000 people initially does not prove they will hang up the phone on Americans who call during the first year to make an appointmet for the treatment. And if they stick to their initial limit of 10,000 procedures that means they'll take the first 10,000 paying customers, not the first 10,000 Japanese customers. Just call to schedule an appointment 6 months or so before it's marketed. And don't tell anyone else about this. We could probably even use our next interview with Team Tsuji to talk to them about putting us on a list of the earliest customers.
Question: Where did they state that they will only take Japanese customers to start with?
Answer: NOWHERE.
Question: Is Team Tsuji locked-in to doing 10,000 or less procedures the first year the treatment is marketed or could he do more?
Answer: The number of procedures that will be performed the first year can be revised upward unless the regulatory agency limits the number of procedures that can be performed the first year to 10,000.
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@That Guy and @nameless let's please have a civil conversation. That Guy, seriously what are the "obvious reasons". If I call into make an appointment, then why am I going to be treated any differently than a Japanese person, assuming I will take care of my own travel expenses and assuming that someone there speaks English (which is not unreasonable). Yeah, maybe the majority of their customers will be Japanese, just due to sheer proximity and the fact that it would be an additional hassle for foreigners ($$$ and time).... but for people who have waited YEARS for this, the additional hassle will be rather trivial in the grand scheme of things. I hope you can understand why your messages are being misinterpreted because this additional hassle is probably not a big deal if someone is already potentially going to drop as much as 6 figures on the treatment. That's all I'm saying,
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Look @hellouser can figure this all out for us once we get him to Japan! Or the next time we get to ask Tsuji questions in a professional set up through Admin. Id rather Noisette not be overly inquisitive with Tsuji for the obvious reason and feel as if though Noisette has good control over not pushing it.
We will all know soon enough but I am willing to pay for everything and even live in Japan for a year if they want me too, to track progress. I am of North Indian decent so I would be a good candidate to mix up the mold.
We will all know soon enough but I am willing to pay for everything and even live in Japan for a year if they want me too, to track progress. I am of North Indian decent so I would be a good candidate to mix up the mold.
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I'm sorry but your argument seems extremely trivial. For someone who has waited f*****g YEARS for this treatment and is willing to fork over 6 figures to pay for it, spending the time there and booking a flight probably won't be at the top of their "worry list".
No offense but your voter analogy is pretty weak because voting is a collective action problem. Those people who don't vote... their one measly vote wouldn't have made a difference anyway. On the other hand, getting this treatment would make a HUGE, DIRECT impact to an individual's life. So it's really not even comparable. Again if someone is gonna fork over the $$$$$$ for the treatment, then booking the trip won't be a very big deal at all.
Same here. And we wouldn't have to live in Japan for a year to do this. We would only have to be there a few months to do this. That would be fine with me. I would think of it as sightseeing. But I also have enough frequent flyer miles to take 3 round trips to Japan so I would probably just go back and forth a few times to do the treatment.
I would definitely do it.
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Let's just agree that you are in the exceptional minority if you are willing to shell out six figures for the treatment. You shouldn't concern yourself with what others say about accessibility then as it doesn't apply to you. But the reverse also holds, obviously - whether or not you think it is accessible is irrelevant to the majority.
You probably shouldn't reply to me saying that my point was trivial with a response that essentially says very wealthy people enjoy exclusive access to things that the ordinary public does not have.
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I'm not necessarily talking about myself. I'm saying that I hope we can agree that the vast majority of the cost would be the treatment, which would have to be paid for whether you live in Japan or not. Other expenses are trivial in comparison. Therefore, being from out of the country probably isn't a deal breaker for people who are willing to fork that much dough over in the first place.