Turkey FUE yeilds

[da_ve100]

Hi All,

Been looking into getting a Fue hair transplant most probably one of two doctors sometime this year. One has quoted me 5000 grafts over two days and the other 4500.

I was just wondering would 4500+ be two many grafts over such a short span of time?

I'm worried this may effect yield even though they are very reputable surgeon and should a more sensible option be going in for 3500 over 2 days then reevaluate after 8 months+.

If any one has had any experience or recommendations will be greatly appreciated.

thanks.

 

[GoldenMane]

I'd imagine that the yield would be lower yes. Generally in order to do bigger FUE sessions, the surgeon rely more on technical staff for extraction and incisions, and/or the surgeon needs to work faster. Neither of these are conducive to obtaining the best graft yields. There's a trade off, Smaller sessions, where the surgeon does all the work themselves, and where they take their time will obviously get the best yields. Which is why I chose Dr De Reys in Belgium who does one patient a day, does a maximum of 1200 grafts per day, makes every incision himself (not sure if he extracts the FUEs himself, I'd imagine this is where most follicles are lost due to transection).

 

[da_ve100]

I'd imagine that the yield would be lower yes. Generally in order to do bigger FUE sessions, the surgeon rely more on technical staff for extraction and incisions, and/or the surgeon needs to work faster. Neither of these are conducive to obtaining the best graft yields. There's a trade off, Smaller sessions, where the surgeon does all the work themselves, and where they take their time will obviously get the best yields. Which is why I chose Dr De Reys in Belgium who does one patient a day, does a maximum of 1200 grafts per day, makes every incision himself (not sure if he extracts the FUEs himself, I'd imagine this is where most follicles are lost due to transection).

Would there be exceptions to this like Dr Erdogan or *********?

 

[GoldenMane]

I doubt it, they get great results because they dense pack very large numbers of grafts, not because they're careful. I'd say that they're probably less concerned with conserving your donor hair and follicle transection as they are with extracting large numbers of grafts and dense packing them. Dr Erdogan's graft quotes are getting crazier by the month. If he extracts 5000 grafts and 4000 of them survive (probably less than that), that's still going to be a great result for an NW3 or less candidate. I was shocked when he quoted me 2600 grafts, recently saw someone on here with about the same hair loss who got quoted 4500 grafts. It doesn't leave meany grafts for future hair loss.
With them, I imagine their technical staff do most of the work, and that they probably work faster to extract so many grafts in a single session.

I you're really concerned with graft yield, I would advise surgeons who do smaller sessions, take their time, and do most of the work themselves. If you can spare the grafts, want, nice hairline artistry, and want a cheaper hair transplant, then perhaps Erdogan would be a better option. Not sure about Dogany.

Oh and for very large session like that, from what I've read, FUT may be a better option, it gets higher graft yields than FUE, there is less follicle transection.

 

[da_ve100]

I doubt it, they get great results because they dense pack very large numbers of grafts, not because they're careful. I'd say that they're probably less concerned with conserving your donor hair and follicle transection as they are with extracting large numbers of grafts and dense packing them. Dr Erdogan's graft quotes are getting crazier by the month. If he extracts 5000 grafts and 4000 of them survive (probably less than that), that's still going to be a great result for an NW3 or less candidate. I was shocked when he quoted me 2600 grafts, recently saw someone on here with about the same hair loss who got quoted 4500 grafts. It doesn't leave meany grafts for future hair loss.
With them, I imagine their technical staff do most of the work, and that they probably work faster to extract so many grafts in a single session.

I you're really concerned with graft yield, I would advise surgeons who do smaller sessions, take their time, and do most of the work themselves. If you can spare the grafts, want, nice hairline artistry, and want a cheaper hair transplant, then perhaps Erdogan would be a better option. Not sure about Dogany.

Oh and for very large session like that, from what I've read, FUT may be a better option, it gets higher graft yields than FUE, there is less follicle transection.

That's interesting. I've seen nothing but good things from Dr Erdogan but i may have to do more research and dig a little deeper his results look pretty good and i dont think i've seen any of his patients with terrible looking donor areas afterwards.

Definitely want to be wise with my donor supply.

 

[GoldenMane]

If you want to be wise with your donor supply then Dr Erdogan is not the doctor for you. His hairlines are amazing and nobody is going to complain about having a great hairline. But they're amazing for a reason - He uses way too many grafts at the front. If your Norwood destiny is NW3 or 4 then maybe that's fine. But if you're destined for NW6 then it's just reckless. Short term amazing gain, but when you've used up 3-5000 grafts on your hairline alone and only have 2-3000 left for the rest of your head, you may regret it later.

 

[da_ve100]

If you want to be wise with your donor supply then Dr Erdogan is not the doctor for you. His hairlines are amazing and nobody is going to complain about having a great hairline. But they're amazing for a reason - He uses way too many grafts at the front. If your Norwood destiny is NW3 or 4 then maybe that's fine. But if you're destined for NW6 then it's just reckless. Short term amazing gain, but when you've used up 3-5000 grafts on your hairline alone and only have 2-3000 left for the rest of your head, you may regret it later.

Will keep that in mind.

However i'm sure any doctor worth his salt wouldn't be that reckless and place graft only in the hair line and Dr Erdogan does seem to have documented results on higher norwoods.

Apart H&W who do Fut are there any other reputable surgeons for higher norwoods that practise FUE? I've heard good things about Lorenzo?