Update: Follica's Presentation At The 2017 Aad Meeting

[Royaume]

Cotsarelis his baldite crown is getting bigger and bigger.

Washenik hair transplant holding on well. Probably pops finasteride.

@Swoop is this picture real?... If its real then could it be more disappointing if the "king" of hair loss is balding himself although he is sitting on a treatment that could safe him...

 

[Armando Jose]

possibly it is a real picture.

 

[Royaume]

possibly it is a real picture.

why can't nobody answer this question? is it so difficult? If its real you can forget about this sh*t. Just think a minute!!! If you are working for follica and if it really works, you will never ever get such a bald spot. By the way all three scientists have not that hair that somebody would expect from Hair specialists who have something that work... I mean look at Angela Christiano xD if cotsarelis appeared with such a sexy mane without balding spots, then this would have been AWESOME

Swoop tell us that you used Photoshop.

 

[kiwipilu]

why can't nobody answer this question? is it so difficult? If its real you can forget about this sh*t. Just think a minute!!! If you are working for follica and if it really works, you will never ever get such a bald spot. By the way all three scientists have not that hair that somebody would expect from Hair specialists who have something that work... I mean look at Angela Christiano xD if cotsarelis appeared with such a sexy mane without balding spots, then this would have been AWESOME

Swoop tell us that you used Photoshop.

Some well known hair transplant surgeons don't care about their hair loss. they deal with it like millions of people... In our case, Treatments will always be important for people who care about it psychologically wise.In XX years even with a cure in 1 injection there will always be bald people because some like it and some don't care, and some wont have access to treatments

 

[tjnpdx]

I highlighted the part of your post that I think is where you're anger is coming from. IMO we did just get some information from Follica. And they also said hard data is soon to follow. I'm looking forward to seeing their forthcoming data when they release it. I think we're going to be pleasantly surprised. I don't think it's going to be a cure but I think it's going to be better than what we have today.

I'd agree. I just did the TL;DR to inject the sarcasm into the post

 

[CharAblaze]

Get people to f*****g recognize the need for action then we can start hoping. Right now you guys are as good as bald with no one to blame for it but your own lack of strength and courage.

That's f*****g right.
The media doesn't know jackshit how us baldies suffer. They only think: Oh, you're bald, time to hit the gym and become
a wrestler or a cliche action hero. Some people are even unaware that treatments exist. Fuckers tell that balding is aging, that we all have to shave it all off when even children suffer from it and have to deal with that sh*t for life, heck I was once a teenager and for this f*****g disease my peers at the time started calling me an old man.

Honestly the chance that you will look good with a shaved (diffuse) head is 1 in 1 million while with a balding head (horseshoe) the odds are almost 0 and even then every person looks better with hair.

Think of how many dreams youth loses, the gradual transformation that occurs when they understand that they are fucked for life, when they metamorphose into f*****g baldheads. Think of how much it hurts for them when a cute girl in their university or school doesn't look at them anymore with inviting eyes, but instead with the eyes of disdain and slaughter, thinking that they are creeps. What about older people, what about the middle aged man who breaks up with his wife and only has his chances with whales. What about women, do you think they can deal with this sh*t as well as we do, no, they suffer the most and they need a cure as well.

Also, bald shaming is f*****g real:

Hence, let us all create a movement to spread the word.

Remember, that before WW2, psychiatrists thought that hysteria is only a woman's disease, balding is the same f*****g thing. People are blind to the social and psychological effects of baldness and they need to be enlightened.

Let us write books, spam reddits, go to talk shows, anything, the ideas are limitless or even build our own research lab. We need to take action to pave our way into the mass media, especially when this society is so focused on looks.

Seriously, will it be any more ridiculous than noFAP? No and noFap has entire presentations dedicated for it in TED. We will not be obese people, who say that being fat is beautiful or something like that, we want to do something about our problem and need hope and for the love of f*****g god, if they say any f*****g thing about how only old men want to treat baldness, make them aware of all those children and young men and women who have to deal with this sh*t everyday, when otherwise they may be leading normal lives.

It's time for us to unite and spread the word, let us create our own movement, we are not some desperate baldies who want to be accepted, we reject baldness and we want to end our curse.
And I'm dead f*****g serious.

 

[Swoop]

@Swoop is this picture real?... If its real then could it be more disappointing if the "king" of hair loss is balding himself although he is sitting on a treatment that could safe him...

It's real mate.

 

[Royaume]

It's real mate.

omg... Cotsarelis is now out of the game.
His balding spot looks like sh*t and please.... Nobody should write that he doesn't care about his hair loss and that could be a possible reason why he didn't use his cure rain system on his own head.

Am I the only one who thinks that this is really and I mean reaaaaallly bad news?

 

[Captain Rex]

omg... Cotsarelis is now out of the game.
His balding spot looks like sh*t and please.... Nobody should write that he doesn't care about his hair loss and that could be a possible reason why he didn't use his cure rain system on his own head.

Am I the only one who thinks that this is really and I mean reaaaaallly bad news?

indeed, he is frustrated now.

 

[Royaume]

indeed, he is frustrated now.
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lol or he wants to surprise everybody like: Look what I've created and the he uses his own product for the first time

 

[Captain Rex]

lol or he wants to surprise everybody like: Look what I've created and the he uses his own product for the first time

If I were him I would have tried it by now. Only if I had that opportunity....

 

[Royaume]

If I were him I would have tried it by now. Only if I had that opportunity....

I would have one question for them:

If your rain system can create de novo follicles Dr. Cotsarelis then WHY do you have such a big bald spot on your head? WHY? Just answer this question. I don't need any data from you. If the master himself can't solve his own hair loss then how can he help us?

 

[Blackber]

I would have one question for them:

If your rain system can create de novo follicles Dr. Cotsarelis then WHY do you have such a big bald spot on your head? WHY? Just answer this question. I don't need any data from you. If the master himself can't solve his own hair loss then how can he help us?

I think you're overreacting a bit.

There's a plenty of transplant doctors that never give themselves a transplant.

He might just not care as much as you do. To each their own.

 

[Captain Rex]

I would have one question for them:

If your rain system can create de novo follicles Dr. Cotsarelis then WHY do you have such a big bald spot on your head? WHY?

meanwhile, if they delay any further then.......

I hope he will try to accept it just like we do.

 

[tjnpdx]

Of course you guys have all this newfound faith in Follica. After all, Replicel is starting to crack.

Just two years ago Histogen and Replicel were considered the holy grail. Now we're jumping ship to find a new hope to cling to and it's completely without any solid argumentation. Follica used to be a write-off but hey, you had Replicel back then, didn't you?

Thing is, you're focusing on the wrong problem, pinning your hopes on any and every goddamn treatment in development but all that is is getting by on a day-to-day basis on delusions.

Practically all of these treatments are destined to fail from the get-go. Every single treatment between now and an eventual solution has to fail because that's just the nature of progress; it is necessary for an eventual breakthrough to be made.

The real problem is things aren't failing nearly fast enough due to the lack of research and funding. For f***'s sake, even the world's leading researchers admit hardly any research is done in the field of hair loss. We don't even have a prognosis for baldness! Do you get that? Yet you expect a cure for a disorder that has plagued mankind for *thousands of years* to be produced within the narrow timeframe of your youth by only a handful of people?

Get people to f*****g recognize the need for action then we can start hoping. Right now you guys are as good as bald with no one to blame for it but your own lack of strength and courage.

.....Yahweh, is that you?

 

[nameless]

omg... Cotsarelis is now out of the game.
His balding spot looks like sh*t and please.... Nobody should write that he doesn't care about his hair loss and that could be a possible reason why he didn't use his cure rain system on his own head.

Am I the only one who thinks that this is really and I mean reaaaaallly bad news?

1. How do you know he cares about his hair loss.

2. Why should nobody write that he doesn't care about his hair loss?

3. The latest info indicates that there are still some things to be resolved so why would he use a treatment on himself that is not ready to be used on people?

4. One of the things that has to be resolved is to make sure that the wounding process doesn't cause scarring. If that isn't 100% perfected yet then of course he would not want to do the treatment on himself yet.

It was clearly stated in Follica's recent info dump that they still have some things to resolve. One issue is that they still have to ascertain that the wounding process won't cause scaring. We all saw this in the recent info dump, including you. And yet you rag on about why Cots is not using the treatment on himself already. You have a bigger problem than your hair loss feller. Your biggest problems are intelligence and courgage. You remind me of the freaked-out and flighty character played by the deceased actor Bill Paxton in the movie "Aliens".

You need to calm down dude.

 

[nameless]

Of course you guys have all this newfound faith in Follica. After all, Replicel is starting to crack.

Just two years ago Histogen and Replicel were considered the holy grail. Now we're jumping ship to find a new hope to cling to and it's completely without any solid argumentation. Follica used to be a write-off but hey, you had Replicel back then, didn't you?

Thing is, you're focusing on the wrong problem, pinning your hopes on any and every goddamn treatment in development but all that is is getting by on a day-to-day basis on delusions.

Practically all of these treatments are destined to fail from the get-go. Every single treatment between now and an eventual solution has to fail because that's just the nature of progress; it is necessary for an eventual breakthrough to be made.

The real problem is things aren't failing nearly fast enough due to the lack of research and funding. For f***'s sake, even the world's leading researchers admit hardly any research is done in the field of hair loss. We don't even have a prognosis for baldness! Do you get that? Yet you expect a cure for a disorder that has plagued mankind for *thousands of years* to be produced within the narrow timeframe of your youth by only a handful of people?

Get people to f*****g recognize the need for action then we can start hoping. Right now you guys are as good as bald with no one to blame for it but your own lack of strength and courage.

Follisket please don't include me in the group that goes from supporting one failed treatment to the next. I have always badmouthed Replicel and with good reason - they have not included a solution to the inductivity problem in their technology. There weren't any solutions (to the inductivity problem) at the time they first started their clinical trials but NOW there are. They should start over and add one of the new inductivity retaining strategies to their treatment.

 

[Captain Rex]

1. How do you know he cares about his hair loss.

2. Why should nobody write that he doesn't care about his hair loss?

3. The latest info indicates that there are still some bugs to be worked out so why would he use a treatment on himself that is not 100% ready to be used?

4. One of the bugs that has to be worked out is to make sure that the wounding process doesn't cause scarring. If that isn't 100% perfected yet then of course he would not want to do the treatment on himself yet.

It was well publicized in his recent info that they are still to ascertain that the wounding process won't cause scaring. We all saw this in the recent info, including you. And yet you rag on about why Cots is not using the treatment on himself already. You have a bigger problem than your hair loss. Your biggest problem is intellectual and cowardice You remind me of the scaredy cat played by Bill Paxton in the movie "Aliens". You need to calm down dude.

what happened to you man?
I do respect some of your points regarding replicel and here in this Follica thread too but don't you think you are over-reacting a bit - attacking users as if they did a heinous crime. We should be given the chance to ask.

And his question is not as dumb as you stated. It's really odd when you see the man, marketing the hair loss product, is himself balding. I get it, there's a scarring issue which is needed to be solved. But then again, these were all the bullshit scientific craps used by replicel and histogen to delay their products. Hence, we don't buy it.

and don't worry, Cots will also worry about his hairloss.
what goes around comes around.

 

[nameless]

what happened to you man?
I do respect some of your points regarding replicel and here in this Follica thread too but don't you think you are over-reacting a bit - attacking users as if they did a heinous crime. We should be given the chance to ask.

And his question is not as dumb as you stated. It's really odd when you see the man, marketing the hair loss product, is himself balding. I get it, there's a scarring issue which is needed to be solved. But then again, these were all the bullshit scientific craps used by replicel and histogen to delay their products. Hence, we don't buy it.

and don't worry, Cots will also worry about his hairloss.
what goes around comes around.

First of all, I'm not the one who said he should not be allowed to ask a question. HE is the one who said we should not be allowed to say that Cots might not care about his hair loss. HE is the one who tried to tell me what I can and can't say. Here's exactly what he said:

"Nobody should write that he doesn't care about his hair loss"

He's the one telling people what to say and not to say. And he's obviously in a state of panic.

As far as I'm concerned he can say anything he wants but if he's goes off the rails in a panic with ridiculously stupid stuff then someone might tell him to cool it, the same as Sigourney Weaver told Bill Paxton to cool it with his flighty panicked bullshit in the movie "Aliens".

Perhaps I was a bit rough in how I told him he should cool it but I got tired of his panicky bullshit, and I was annoyed with him for telling me what I can and can't say. I apologize for being rough in how I told him to calm down.

And I personally know people who could care less about their hair loss. My bald uncle makes over $200,000 a year, 2% minoxidil takes him from NW5 to NW1/NW2, and yet he discontinued it years ago. My brother has lost half of his hair, he has never used a hair loss treatment, and he could care less about his hair loss. Some people do not care about their hair loss. Cots may be one of the people who doesn't care about his hair loss. For anyone to assume otherwise is bullshit because none of us knows for sure.

We were all informed that there are still some issues to be resolved, including ascertaining that the wounding process won't cause scarring. Only someone who's too panicked to think straight would ask why Cots doesn't use it on himself when there *could be* a scarring issue. Even if I knew for a fact that it would regrow 100% of my hair I would not want to use the treatment until I can be sure it won't scar up the entire top of my head.

 

[Grasshüpfer]

Cotsarelis could fix his bald spot with a tiny fue at any time.