Us Dr. Partners With Hairclone: Is It Worth It, Though?

[That Guy]

User "SA" on HLC2020 pointed out that a US transplant surgeon has partnered with Hairclone and you can start banking your follicles with him (sent to the UK) and when the treatment becomes available you'll be first in line.

https://www.hairsciencescenter.com/hair-cloning-follicle-banking/

Some standout quotes:

"Perhaps as early as 2027 this technology is expected to become a reality, although substantial work still needs to be done in order for hair cloning to become a viable option."

and

" if you are in your early 20s or younger, follicle banking may not be in your interest, because chances are you will still have an abundance of robust follicular units in 10 years time. However, if you are in your late 30s or older this may be your best option."

So basically, don't f*****g bother. Hairclone must be as far along as I've been saying if this surgeon expects it to become a reality in 2027 and tops it off with "If you're in your early 20s or younger, just remain balding for your entire youth, but if you're an old guy you should bank your follicles so you can have hair when you're even older!"

Not exactly an attractive option, especially considering that you're competition is on track to be out long before then. I think I'll take that transplant instead, Doctor.

 

[Jay London]

I mentioned in another thread but aren't L'Oréal and Poetis also working on cloning and bioprinting hair follicles? Announced way before hairclone and have much better funding etc.

Also, I thought the whole point of hairclone's strategy was to avoid regulatory processes to speed up availability of the treatment. Really stupid if they are aiming for 10 years! There will be no need for it by that point with so many other players in the game.

 

[lemoncloak]

Perhaps as early as 2027

Ah, le old 10 years from now.

On another note, I wonder if hairclone was partly founded because of Tsuji. If they could land a deal with organ technologies in Europe/GB that would be sweet.
Have you subbed to hairclone's newsletter? You seem to sweep the web for anything new all the time. Can't blame you

 

[mr_robot]

I pointed this out before, but I think their strategy is pretty clear considering that the two people who actually own the share in the company are hair transplant surgeons. They get people to sign up to bank their follicles and then basically license the tech from others. That way you lock in your customers early as basically all transplant surgeons will be fighting against each other for customers when this comes out.

 

[lemoncloak]

I pointed this out before, but I think their strategy is pretty clear considering that the two people who actually own the share in the company are hair transplant surgeons. They get people to sign up to bank their follicles and then basically license the tech from others. That way you lock in your customers early as basically all transplant surgeons will be fighting against each other for customers when this comes out.

You do realize the moment hair multiplication becomes available, every doctor's office that offers it will look like this

 

[Jay London]

I don't agree. The tech will be licensed to labs and to surgeries and will cost a few grand. I don't think there's a need to worry about massive queues. It's not a Black Friday sale.

 

[lemoncloak]

I don't agree. The tech will be licensed to labs and to surgeries and will cost a few grand. I don't think there's a need to worry about massive queues. It's not a Black Friday sale.

You think a few grand is a lot? Most adult men are receding/balding. This will be more popular than botox. And there's only so many hair transplant doctors

 

[hellouser]

You think a few grand is a lot? Most adult men are receding/balding. This will be more popular than botox. And there's only so many hair transplant doctors

Sadly, most people live paycheck to paycheck and the amount of savings they have is miniscule. But then again, most people are stupid. A few grand for a transplant would be affordable for MOST people if they knew how to manage their money. Oh well.

 

[mr_robot]

Again, the whole point is to lock in customers. It also helps them leverage negotiations when trying to license tech as they have a banks of hair ready to go, every transplant surgeon is going to try to get in on this when it comes out. As a company they're offering nothing really, just jumping onto a band wagon.

 

[lemoncloak]

Sadly, most people live paycheck to paycheck and the amount of savings they have is miniscule. But then again, most people are stupid. A few grand for a transplant would be affordable for MOST people if they knew how to manage their money. Oh well.

I see. Btw this is my first time interacting with you. Thanks for those hair congress recordings

 

[Xander94]

User "SA" on HLC2020 pointed out that a US transplant surgeon has partnered with Hairclone and you can start banking your follicles with him (sent to the UK) and when the treatment becomes available you'll be first in line.

https://www.hairsciencescenter.com/hair-cloning-follicle-banking/

Some standout quotes:

"Perhaps as early as 2027 this technology is expected to become a reality, although substantial work still needs to be done in order for hair cloning to become a viable option."

and

" if you are in your early 20s or younger, follicle banking may not be in your interest, because chances are you will still have an abundance of robust follicular units in 10 years time. However, if you are in your late 30s or older this may be your best option."

So basically, don't f*****g bother. Hairclone must be as far along as I've been saying if this surgeon expects it to become a reality in 2027 and tops it off with "If you're in your early 20s or younger, just remain balding for your entire youth, but if you're an old guy you should bank your follicles so you can have hair when you're even older!"

Not exactly an attractive option, especially considering that you're competition is on track to be out long before then. I think I'll take that transplant instead, Doctor.

LuL 2027 maybe make it 2532. By that time we should have made significant steps to solve/reverse aging if we still worry about the hair loss sh*t by then humanity has failed.

 

[That Guy]

I mentioned in another thread but aren't L'Oréal and Poetis also working on cloning and bioprinting hair follicles? Announced way before hairclone and have much better funding etc.

Also, I thought the whole point of hairclone's strategy was to avoid regulatory processes to speed up availability of the treatment. Really stupid if they are aiming for 10 years! There will be no need for it by that point with so many other players in the game.

Loreal actually started after Hairclone and they said it will be a few years before they can print follicles. Even then, their primary function is to test hair products, so it would be years before that'll even begin trials.

This will be more popular than botox. And there's only so many hair transplant doctors

And that's exactly why they could charge just about any price.

the whole company and cell banking idea is totally ridiculous. they have nothing to show but want money to bank the cells. first of all we don't even know how they freeze the cells. although they are partnering with existing cell banking companies which have the know-how, we can't be 100% sure that no damage to the cells will occur when you need them in 10 years.
further, every bald guy, even NW100 guys have enough cells in their donor area which are sufficient for the multiplication process. there is absolutely no reason to bank the cells in advance.

it's a dead end. a total rip-off. no results will come from this company, and probably in 5 years they will be gone anyway. if tsuji, replicel or follica succeeds, it's game over for hairclone.

While I would like to see them succeed, I have to agree with you.

Sadly, most people live paycheck to paycheck and the amount of savings they have is miniscule. But then again, most people are stupid. A few grand for a transplant would be affordable for MOST people if they knew how to manage their money. Oh well.

Too bad that most transplants exceed a "few grand".

Most people are lucky after paying their insurance, rent/mortgage, utilities, buying groceries, gas, going to school, paying taxes, getting married etc. If they have any savings at all.

But the prevailing ignorance around here is don't live like a normal person and pinch every penny because hair > everything

 

[hellouser]

Too bad that most transplants exceed a "few grand".

*snipped for irrelevance*

Except this isn't a discussion about hair transplants or any procedure costing more than the amount proposed (a few grand).

 

[Xander94]

@That Guy Don't mess with Mike m8 haven't you seen breaking bad?

 

[That Guy]

Except this isn't a discussion about hair transplants or any procedure costing more than the amount proposed (a few grand).

Fair enough

 

[Pablo234]

In 2017 good Hair Transplants ARE affordable to the avg. Joe.

It's a matter of what you prioritise, and like what was previously mentioned, being smart and managing your money.

 

[That Guy]

In 2017 good Hair Transplants ARE affordable to the avg. Joe.

It's a matter of what you prioritise, and like what was previously mentioned, being smart and managing your money.

I'm not sure where you live but a good transplant where I'm from would cost 10,000 FUT and 16,000 FUE if you're much passed NW2.

I assure you that is not affordable to the avg Joe

 

[thomps1523]

I'm not sure where you live but a good transplant where I'm from would cost 10,000 FUT and 16,000 FUE if you're much passed NW2.

I assure you that is not affordable to the avg Joe

Seems like a lot of people here have gone to turkey, and not only gotten a really good fue transplant, but it has been much more affordable than what you've been quoted in Canada.

 

[iamgotham]

Guys, 2027 for hair multiplication is actually a realistic prediction. Do you really think that Tsuji is going to have a treatment available in 2020?

Best case scenario we will have Follica in 2020.

Don't take me wrong but history showed us that the hair loss industry is slow and really bad with predictions ("cure for hair loss will hit the market in five years")...

 

[mr_robot]

Guys, 2027 for hair multiplication is actually a realistic prediction. Do you really think that Tsuji is going to have a treatment available in 2020?

Best case scenario we will have Follica in 2020.

Don't take me wrong but history showed us that the hair loss industry is slow and really bad with predictions ("cure for hair loss will hit the market in five years")...

I don't think 2020, but if they have solved the science behind it 2022 is possible however it will be very expensive and be available from a very small number of places, 2027 would be for the second tier re-sellers which what HairClone would be.