Vehicles for RU58841 and Setipiprant

Bagels

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What vehicles are people using for these and what are your sources?

I need a source for propylene glycol. Some people say they got at the drugstore, but I don't see it there.

Here's my plan:
RU
70% ethanol - buy everclear from liquor store in US
30% propylene glycol- SOURCE?

Seti-?
Some have used a combo of DMI/ Eth/ polysorbate
Any other good vehicles for RU or seti?
 

buckthorn

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neogenic is much better than pg/ethanol imo
 

Bagels

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neogenic is much better than pg/ethanol imo
maybe, but legit neogenic is expensive. i've got garnier stemox and its pretty bad as a vehicle, too much ethanol and it all evaporates before properly reaching dermal papilae
 

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maybe, but legit neogenic is expensive. i've got garnier stemox and its pretty bad as a vehicle, too much ethanol and it all evaporates before properly reaching dermal papilae

The dercos viche neogenic was like $85 for 28 6ml viles... lasts 3-5 months. I like it. It dissolves the RU well, doesn't evaporate immediately and makes my scalp feel good. But idk... to each their own. I use it because the straight pg/ethanol irritated my scalp.
 

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I use KB for RU but it is as a glue and is hard to apply if you have longer hair. I am going to try neogenic from next month as it seems to be preferred vehicle on this forum. Just remember mate whatever vehicle you are to use, make sure u make small say weekly batches.
 

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The dercos viche neogenic was like $85 for 28 6ml viles... lasts 3-5 months. I like it. It dissolves the RU well, doesn't evaporate immediately and makes my scalp feel good. But idk... to each their own. I use it because the straight pg/ethanol irritated my scalp.

Did you get results form neogenic RU?

I got same problem RU with PG just makes my head even more itchy
 

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Can they dissolve in liquid minoxidil?

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Do the people who apply RU wear gloves or they just wash their hands?
 

hwezdarik

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RU

Can they dissolve in liquid minoxidil?

Hard to tell, but the goodlookingloser used to use lipogaine as a vehicle for RU.


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Do the people who apply RU wear gloves or they just wash their hands?

Nah, use your hands :)
 

Bagels

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So I tried dissolving one weeks worth of RU in kirkland minoxidil. worked fine for a few days, but this morning it was precipitated solid white powder on forhead.

Didn't do high concentration- like 2.5% and kept in dark. any advice? really don't want this RU to go to waste.
 

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i dont now why some people claims neogenic is a good vehicule for ru only for It dissolves well. It can do it, but is possible it loss the efficcae in comparison with other vehicules like KB or ethanol/pg.
 

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The dercos viche neogenic was like $85 for 28 6ml viles... lasts 3-5 months. I like it. It dissolves the RU well, doesn't evaporate immediately and makes my scalp feel good. But idk... to each their own. I use it because the straight pg/ethanol irritated my scalp.
How much RU in how much neogenic do you use? Do people use neogeic every day all year long? I read that you use neogenic for some time, then stop it and later use it again etc.
 

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How much RU in how much neogenic do you use? Do people use neogeic every day all year long? I read that you use neogenic for some time, then stop it and later use it again etc.

300mg / per 6ml vile = 5% RU concentration. I don't think using stemox all year round could hurt.
 

Sanchez1234

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300mg / per 6ml vile = 5% RU concentration. I don't think using stemox all year round could hurt.
How much stemox ml of those 6 do you use per day/application?

I am using lipogaine as vehicke but it doesnt seem to do much. Switching to kb/pg vehicle, kb solution or stemox. Any advice?
 

buckthorn

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How much stemox ml of those 6 do you use per day/application?

I am using lipogaine as vehicke but it doesnt seem to do much. Switching to kb/pg vehicle, kb solution or stemox. Any advice?

I am only using 1ml right now, because I am only applying to the frontal third. Does RU dissolve in lipogaine? make sure it doesn't dissolute and leave white flakes! KB should be better. I had a bad reaction to propylene glycol, so I stopped using it.

If you're using it in neogenic, you may want to add like .5ml PG, as stemox can dry pretty quickly. or, like i do, dermaroll before application and rub it in thoroughly.
 

Sanchez1234

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I am only using 1ml right now, because I am only applying to the frontal third. Does RU dissolve in lipogaine? make sure it doesn't dissolute and leave white flakes! KB should be better. I had a bad reaction to propylene glycol, so I stopped using it.

If you're using it in neogenic, you may want to add like .5ml PG, as stemox can dry pretty quickly. or, like i do, dermaroll before application and rub it in thoroughly.
Thanks for the help. Currently i am on 100mg RU in eth/pg (1.5ml total). I use dermaroller 0.3mm but on some part i have more hair so i wont feel the dermaroller as much. What size do you use?
 

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I started Ru few weeks ago, currently using small doses in Pantostin (0,25 mg alfatradiol/ml). Ru is disolving quickly, after one week solution is still crystal clear. Dont know about absorption effectivenes, probably will see results or lack of, in few months:)

I searched for best vehicle for RU and Pantostin is IMO best bet right know. Dont remember if neogenic have any research as a backup (lol), Pantostin have two very obscure studies, BUT like I said earlier, alfatradiol is no bogus, for guys refusing to use finasteride its best bet as topical, its even listed on wiki as retarded brother of big 5ar inhibitors, finasteride and dutasteride. Dose in Pantostin is poverty (in CB study they used 40x dose), but it *may* or *should* work topically to a certain extent. ATM you dont find better working placebo for vehicle.
 
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