Very good news: Aderans has bought ICX-TRC

[somone uk]

due to similarities in their technology this is quite inevitable, but it's confirmed that icx has sold trc to aderans for $200,000
this means not only adreans has access to what was before confidential information but it also means they have ownership of TRC which after all has completed phase 2 of 3 clinical trials.
this could potentially bring HM earlier then we originally thought but it's a matter of time if would actually come any earlier

full story: http://www.intercytex.com/icx/news/rele ... 010-03-18/

 

[optimus prime]

That is good news, however $200,000 does not seem like much.

Obviously their scientific research isn't worth that much.

 

[somone uk]

to my understanding ICX is being liquidated, liquidating a company is expensive and liquidators get a lot of money for what they do, so in a way they couldn't care less if they got a lot for trc or a little just as long as they sold it and sold it quick

 

[optimus prime]

to my understanding ICX is being liquidated, liquidating a company is expensive and liquidators get a lot of money for what they do, so in a way they couldn't care less if they got a lot for trc or a little just as long as they sold it and sold it quick

If they are being liquidated, then that is true.

I have been off the hairloss scene for a while, last time I was here, about a year ago, ICX was doing ok. Clearly they have lost out on investment. What is thought of the ICX-TRC scientific technology?

Is it still one of the most hopeful options we have?

 

[banco]

Christ for that price we could have had a whip around on these forums and purchased ICX's stuff.

 

[optimus prime]

Christ for that price we could have had a whip around on these forums and purchased ICX's stuff.

...and do what with it? :smack:

It's going to take hundreds of MILLIONS (if not BILLIONS) to develop it further into an actual prototype that's ready for a release to the public.

I doubt there any billionares on this site. (unless of course Donald Trump is secretly a member of gourmetstylewellness.com...you never know... :dunno: ) But, even 100 times the number of members on this site donating $100 a piece wouldn't even come close to the major $$$ it will take to develop HM.

You would be surprised.

If you could get 10k hairloss suffers to donate £100 a year, you would have 1 million a year.

When I first got hairloss I threw money away on ridiculous things. When people are desperate they spend.

With the right marketing and co-operating from people like Bryan and the Admin guys of the forums, Cassin, etc...It could be done.

I am sure there are web programmers on this forum that could pull together a simple website for people to pay and get the info. Then the person running it, or group running it, updates everyone.

A football team in the UK was run in a similar way. They collected £35 a year and brought a football team.

Even if it something simple like investing £1 million pounds a year into a business like follica.

 

[Boondock]

It's good news and bad news. Good news in that, since they've passed Phase II already, in theory there isn't much to stop this getting to market within the next ten years. But bad news that, given that it's only the price of 15 or 20 conventional hair transplant, it might not be as promising as many of us hoped.

 

[guy83]

It says Bosely in the website, I find that a bad news.

 

[guy83]

http://www.aderansresearch.com/

 

[somone uk]

hmm
maybe if hair transplant can be developed then they can do the job instead idk :dunno:
but a procidure that could potentally deliver a full head of hair it would be ridiculous to expect a human to punch in the grafts 1 by 1
i mean a hair transplant takes hours and only delivers a fraction of the hair HM could deliver
after all the cloned DP cells have to make it into your scalp somehow
maybe 1 day we will have a machine like this:

 

[Boondock]

I'm not surprised by the Bosley connection at all. Ultimately the expertise needed to carry out these treatments will be best found in existing hair transplant surgeons, particularly if the grafts needed to be inserted in a conventional way (as opposed to, say, merely injecting a growth factor).

 

[sammo]

I would just be concerned someone like bosley would find ways of drawing out the icx procedure into a longer, costly and more annoying procedure for the sufferers of male pattern baldness. So they can make more money in the long haul. Its like if they truly had great results and could fix someones male pattern baldness in say 1 or 2 sessions, i'd imagine someone would try and draw this process out to drain more cash.

I'm skeptical about anyone in this position of power because the ideal solution should be something with instant results in the quickest amount of time.

 

[Fender89]

someone UK, LOL, is that from Theme hospital?? I remember playing the demo of that when i was like 10 or somethiing i donno. Was long long ago =D

 

[somone uk]

someone UK, LOL, is that from Theme hospital?? I remember playing the demo of that when i was like 10 or somethiing i donno. Was long long ago =D

yeah lol
you get baldness epidemics etc as well lol
the game must be 16 years old or something now, i feel old now saying i used to play it lol

 

[Kube8]

Well this is good news, but I'm still getting tired of all these tiny news events and no results. I still don't understand what's so hard! JUST DO IT! I mean there's been SOOO many. ICX, Histogen, Aderans, etc. but I've heard NOTHING regarding legitimate results..... only "promising" nonsense here and there.

I'd love it if a product like ICX-TRC would be the one to work. Inject some crap into my head and POOF.... hair grows back and miniaturizing hairs beef up... instead of cloning and poking holes in my head like regular hair transplant. Granted I'll take anything (that works) of course!

I'm on the cusp at this point. My hair is relatively ok at the moment, but inching it's way back..... and thinning along the top now to boot. I was hoping to have HM available to me when my time started running out, but it doesn't look like that will happen.

I'd like to hear them (as in anyone) say. We got it! We did it! It's done! Here's your hair!

(like I'm the only one)

 

[Boondock]

Well this is good news, but I'm still getting tired of all these tiny news events and no results. I still don't understand what's so hard! JUST DO IT! I mean there's been SOOO many. ICX, Histogen, Aderans, etc. but I've heard NOTHING regarding legitimate results..... only "promising" nonsense here and there.

I'd love it if a product like ICX-TRC would be the one to work. Inject some crap into my head and POOF.... hair grows back and miniaturizing hairs beef up... instead of cloning and poking holes in my head like regular hair transplant. Granted I'll take anything (that works) of course!

I'm on the cusp at this point. My hair is relatively ok at the moment, but inching it's way back..... and thinning along the top now to boot. I was hoping to have HM available to me when my time started running out, but it doesn't look like that will happen.

I'd like to hear them (as in anyone) say. We got it! We did it! It's done! Here's your hair!

(like I'm the only one)

Naively, I was in the same boat as you a few years ago. I thought: hey, it might be sh*t losing my hair, but by 2010 we'll have HM and I'll be able to get it sorted out.

In reality, I think the best case scenario is having Histogen available in 2014, but they're being sued to sh*t right now and we still don't know if their product will really work. I can't see ICX bearing fruit for another decade or so. Tis pretty lame, but we may not see anything for 20 years I think!

 

[Matt Skiba]

They make some pretty positive statements and they clearly say that this will help bring the procedure to market faster. I mean aderans has been going at this longer than anyone else, and I think the fact that they're still pushing forward is a good sign, I'd imagine if they really weren't on to something they would have been over just like ICX.

It definitely sucks though when you've been waiting for this for years and you know just how easy it is to be let down.

I just hope they can get it done and make this nightmare end while I'm still young.

 

[Boondock]

I think it's a bit more complex than that, to be fair. The company has an incentive to be positive. It means they get continued investment, and ultimately get to continue drawing their salaries - even if the research is fading further and further away into impossibility.

I'll believe it when we really see something on track for release, i.e. when the trials have been completed and a product's being prepared to market. But that's still a hell of a long way off.

 

[Matt Skiba]

Well, hopefully phase2 trials will be finished soon, and we can get some good news out of it.

You definitely make some good points, and like I said before I'm cautious about this stuff like most people who've been following this for a while now.

As of now though you really can't conclusively say either way if this stuff is for real or if it's bogus.

I do see it as a good sign that they went ahead and shelled out 200 grand to buy what's left of ICX though. I guess you could say the only reason they spent that money is to raise the price of their share prices, but I wouldn't really think that's the case.

I don't know how religious people on here are, but honestly I don't care what religion any one of you believe in, and I don't think it matters, but I think it would be nice to channel positive energy through good will, faith, and prayers to try to make this happen, maybe if enough of us channel our energies it might help to bring this cure for hair loss earlier. I know it sounds lame but I'm one to believe that there are energies at work in the universe that are bigger than us .

 

[Boondock]

I hear ya, dude. I'd like it more than anything just to be given some certainty on the HM issue; even just to be told it will definitely be ten years. It's the lack of knowledge that kills me.

At the moment, though, I just think it's unwise to place hope in it and be disappointed. If you don't believe me on this, just click back to the oldest posts and this subforum and see what people were saying about HM five years ago - and how deluded it seems in retrospect.

I'm always optimistic about HM coming out, but I like to act "as if" it never will in planning my hair loss fight. Because it might be true.