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Petchsky said:i will do, in the transplant section
I'm pretty anxious to see how this turns out for you. I don't think I've seen any pics of your hairline, but If I remeber right your somewhere in between a nw2.5 and 3 (?) which is ppretty much the same as I. I've been wondering if a hair transplant for the hairline would be a good idea for me despite having a good start on finasteride.
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I think I'll get it after all. I remember now that the lace edge is very hard to feel. I'll do a skin edge though. She won't be able to catch it. I was just looking in the mirror again, and looked bad. Only in the right light and right angle do I look good. Just passible otherwise. But clearly balding in the classroom.
Do you think women would think your combover is deceptive? What about Toppik? Is that deceptive? What about super thickening shampoos? If you ever wash it out, you look bald. She better not catch you without it.
Do you think women would think your combover is deceptive? What about Toppik? Is that deceptive? What about super thickening shampoos? If you ever wash it out, you look bald. She better not catch you without it.
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Regarding transplants, here is an issue I rarely see discussed.....
Let's say you're 30 years old. You go to a good surgeon and have a transplant. The results are excellent and you're thrilled.
Five years later, you're 35 and have lost a lot more hair. No problem - you go back to the surgeon for another transplant. It looks great and you're a happy guy again, BUT....
Here's the problem. Five years later, you're 40 and have lost even more hair & need another transplant. So you go back to the surgeon and he gives you the bad news: you don't have enough hair left to do another transplant. You're stuck. You have nice hair at your hairline and on top, but as your natural hair continues to recede, you have a ring of thin hair (or no hair!) just below it - and there's nothing you can do about it.
So take a look at your father, your grandfather and your uncles. If most of them have the classic horseshoe of hair around the back & sides, there's a good chance you will too.
Let's say you're 30 years old. You go to a good surgeon and have a transplant. The results are excellent and you're thrilled.
Five years later, you're 35 and have lost a lot more hair. No problem - you go back to the surgeon for another transplant. It looks great and you're a happy guy again, BUT....
Here's the problem. Five years later, you're 40 and have lost even more hair & need another transplant. So you go back to the surgeon and he gives you the bad news: you don't have enough hair left to do another transplant. You're stuck. You have nice hair at your hairline and on top, but as your natural hair continues to recede, you have a ring of thin hair (or no hair!) just below it - and there's nothing you can do about it.
So take a look at your father, your grandfather and your uncles. If most of them have the classic horseshoe of hair around the back & sides, there's a good chance you will too.
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die_hard said:Petchsky said:i will do, in the transplant section
I'm pretty anxious to see how this turns out for you. I don't think I've seen any pics of your hairline, but If I remeber right your somewhere in between a nw2.5 and 3 (?) which is ppretty much the same as I. I've been wondering if a hair transplant for the hairline would be a good idea for me despite having a good start on finasteride.
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You worrying about me Diehard :hump: Does that mean i don't have too?
I'm closer to a NW3 with crown thinning, been that way ever since i got my hair loss under control and i have remained this way for the last 7 years...i may be losing ground a little bit now, but it's very slow....my hairline is very unsymmetrical and i told myself that i will never be bald, so i'm going conservative with the hairline and saving the rest of my donor for the future, i'm due for surgery on 26th January. I will keep a thread documenting my progress. I've put myself in the hands of Dr Feller, who is often cited as the best H/T Doctor, although there is no best Dr in reality, just a group of them that continually churn out very natural results.
I've been thinking about a H/T for 18 months before deciding to go ahead with it, not a decision you take lightly, what i'd say DH is do more research and follow my progress over the next 12 months.
I think if you are balding and you really want hair the wig is the best option. Personally I don't want to be on drugs for the rest of my life or dump topicals on my head which bloat my face. I want to work out and get a perfect body, eat healthily, enjoy my friends and my girlfriend and get nice clothes. I want to spend most of my money on a wig and then wig maintainence. This option will also entitle me to a perfect hairline and perfect density. I'll wear the wig and a swim cap in the pool and be happy. You really should check out the JA Alternatives informercials (don't worry I am not spamming, I've been on this forum for ages now), these wigs are really flawless. While I am driving in my convertable looking a million dollars you never know.. a cure might come out then I can clone my hair or what ever and burn the wig.
ps. I will use body shop pictomine olamine (or however you spell it), nizoral shampoo and vitamins to keep my horseshoe hair shiney and strong.
pps. peter mac what the hell are you on - a girl was trying to finger your scalp trying to see if you wore a topper, paranoid much.
ps. I will use body shop pictomine olamine (or however you spell it), nizoral shampoo and vitamins to keep my horseshoe hair shiney and strong.
pps. peter mac what the hell are you on - a girl was trying to finger your scalp trying to see if you wore a topper, paranoid much.
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If you are an nw2 who is responding to the meds then there is no real need for a piece. If you are that bothered by it then chances are a transplant will serve your needs better. A hair piece would be a better option for someone like me who is an nw6 and not taking meds. I would be afraid to get an hair transplant in my condition because I have a lot of area to cover with only limited donor, which means even in the hands of the best surgeon I would still wind up with see through hair and a scar. Am I wrong about this? Which do you think is better? Considering both respond to the meds- an nw2 who has to get multiple hair transplants as his balding progresses over the years (like playing catch up) or an Norwood 6 who goes in for let's say two mega sessions and one touch up session with less future loss to worry about? Which has the better chance of success?
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That question is difficult to answer because they can't be compared however if you are a NW6 and I assume you are on propecia then you have absolutely nothing to lose by getting a mega session hair transplant, depends how much hair you want I guess, I personally am a NW2 who is thinning and on no meds, I want perfect hair so I am going to shave top bit and wear a topper, probably wear my hair long as well, meaning my horseshoe will be like 6 inches plus.
I will do my best to make the hairline flawless but on top of that I will conceal hairline with my hair anyway, might even dye it blond and get different colour contact lenses, maybe I can be a blond blue eyed boy next week tall dark and handsome like I am now.
Lol alternatively you can spend thousands of pounds on laser hair removal if you can't be bothered to shave your facial hair every day like CCS ha ha ha.
Mega sessions for a NW6 would cost a LOT of money. Why not experiment with $300-1000 total for a year of pieces and see what that does? If you are 20 and NW6, you will not be happy with the density the hair transplant gives you. Unless you have just super dense donor hair, do not get hair transplant if you have NW6.
As for the NW2, maybe some grafts would be the way to go, but a thin partial is much cheaper than a hair piece, and much easier to apply. Why not give it a try. If you only got 1/4 inch to go, then maybe just go for the hair transplant, but only if you are on meds and are confident you won't need more hair transplant's.
As for the NW2, maybe some grafts would be the way to go, but a thin partial is much cheaper than a hair piece, and much easier to apply. Why not give it a try. If you only got 1/4 inch to go, then maybe just go for the hair transplant, but only if you are on meds and are confident you won't need more hair transplant's.
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I don't think vitamins will help you.
Nizoral is good.
So is prioctone olamine shampoo (T-Gel Greasy or BodyShop Ginger)
I also suggest putting 2-10 drops of Lavender essential oil in your off day shampoo, or maybe your BodyShop Ginger shampoo. I use bodyshop because it costs less, a lot less, and is easy to get. I think the piroctone olamine study was done with the T-Gel Greasy though.
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CCS I appreciate your advice, but I really cannot be bothered to do what you do and experiment with shampoos ect. I have come to the realization that I am a balding. Those steps I mentioned using the ginger shampoo etc are just to keep my nw7 hair thick which at 20 I hope it will still be for another decade. I am always hopeful for hair cloning and if worst comes to the worst I will go full cap (won't do it myself, will spend a lot of money on assistance to make the template perfect.
I think vitamins will work in that sillica, zinc, follic acid etc are a neccessity for good hair quality and they will perhaps help my nw7 hair stay its best. What I don't think will work is you spending loads of money on laser hair removal, I have already told you what to do in regards to this.
Also, in terms of the wig I really don't mind spending loads of money on it. Because the more moeny I spend the more realistic it will look, I don't enjoy spending loads of money on hair loss "solutions" in the past because I know all of it is ineffective except propecia which I cannot take if anyone has followed my story. That said I might order some more revivogen soon, god knows why though.
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My donor is insufficient to provide enough coverage. If I really wanted to go the hair transplant route, I would have to get work form two doctors. Feller or Wong for the strip and whats his name for bht. Both doctors would have to work with each other to integrate the head hairs and body hairs so they blend....oh who am I kidding. This will never happen.
BHT is usually more curly than head hair, though it depends. Curly hair is actually not too bad looking. I just prefer straight hair. One of the main reason I don't get BHT is I don't know if my scars will be visible. Everyone's holes will fill in with scar tissue. It is just a question of whether it will be raised, and whether it will be the same color as your skin. I'd hate to have a lot of dots all over my body. If not for that, I'd get BHT instead of laser hair remove. I'm very hairy, or was. Many sessions of laser hair removal have gotten me pretty smooth. My calves still have penty of hair though.
uncomfortable man said:
If I were you uncomfortable man I would go to feller, use all your donor hair to become a very diffuse Norwood 1 then go to JA Alternatives and use their 'interlink' technique, they turn one hair in to four hairs in a nutshell, this really is a relaistic option for you, I would go this route but I am tediously slowing balding so it isn't an option for me. And lol to CCS's laser hair removal voyages. Has he not heard of Veet for men body removal cream?
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Is that like a weave? If so it sounds pretty tedious and I can imagine you would need professional maintenance for that I am assuming, which would get costly. Not to mention the stress it would put on the newly transplanted hairs. I don't know what to do really, but I appreciate the suggestion. I heard they make great systems though.person said:
How can a strand by strand hair system glued to your own hair be easier than than a big one? Why spend tens of thousands on surgery just to go get a system afterwards?
As for the hair removal cream, it eats your skin too, slowly. If you have course hair like I do, the skin gets eaten before the hair is fully eaten. It is just good for making the hair less prickly. Yeah, women with their super thin hair can easily remove it with the cream. I tried Nair and Epil-stop plus. But just burn me red, and if I only go as long as they suggest, it leaves the hair. Smearing that stuff all over your body each day is expensive and messy. But again, if you have thin hairs that grow slowly this is not a problem. I have course hairs. Great for BHT, but I don't want spot scars all over my body.
As for the hair removal cream, it eats your skin too, slowly. If you have course hair like I do, the skin gets eaten before the hair is fully eaten. It is just good for making the hair less prickly. Yeah, women with their super thin hair can easily remove it with the cream. I tried Nair and Epil-stop plus. But just burn me red, and if I only go as long as they suggest, it leaves the hair. Smearing that stuff all over your body each day is expensive and messy. But again, if you have thin hairs that grow slowly this is not a problem. I have course hairs. Great for BHT, but I don't want spot scars all over my body.
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J A Alternatives claims to offer products that no one else has - and that is NOT true! This is just one more company using vague & confusing terminology to describe common products - and to justify charging very high prices for them!
Check out their site if you want. Adding hair to your own? They are describing extensions, which no one who is losing hair should try because it causes Traction Alopecia, which means that the stress the procedure puts on your own hair will cause those hairs to fall out over time - and they will not grow back. Their other major hair replacement system is simply a hairpiece. They claim to use virgin European hair, which is the best hair in the world, but you can get that same hair from other sellers at a much lower price.
Check out their site if you want. Adding hair to your own? They are describing extensions, which no one who is losing hair should try because it causes Traction Alopecia, which means that the stress the procedure puts on your own hair will cause those hairs to fall out over time - and they will not grow back. Their other major hair replacement system is simply a hairpiece. They claim to use virgin European hair, which is the best hair in the world, but you can get that same hair from other sellers at a much lower price.