Vicious male pattern baldness TINGLING ITCH!

[vipergts]

I hate the fact that this damn male pattern baldness tingling itch cannot be controlled. It's no coincidence that most of the time when I have that tingly itch I lose a hair or two in the same area. Also this itch is only limited to my crown (where I am losing hair). I have tried everything to subdue it including: Aloe vera, tricomin, tea tree oil, ACV, Tgel, nizoral, H&S, many different conditioners, etc. However nothing seems to work.

I truly feel if I can contain this itch I can slow down my loss. And I really DON'T think this itch is a sign of new growth! Can anyone suggest any other product that has worked for them?

 

[tomas99]

I think it is nearly impossible that itch could be sign of new regrowth. When there is itch, something (wrong) is happening. It means there is some inflammation or simply scalp is not in condition as it should be.

 

[lucy923]

I think it is nearly impossible that itch could be sign of new regrowth. When there is itch, something (wrong) is happening. It means there is some inflammation or simply scalp is not in condition as it should be.

Not necessarily true as I had minor scalp itch after about 3 months on minoxidil and shortly after that I started noticing great thickening/regrowth.

 

[Guest]

I'm not sure if the itching is definitely a sign of losing hair. I have the itch on my scalp, but also on my forehead and on areas I don't even have hair. But it's still mostly on the male pattern baldness area so I can't be sure. The weirdest thing about my itch is that it seems to go away whenever I sweat a lot. It always goes away after a session of football, dunno if I'm allergic to some shampoo or something but usually people report that sweating only makes their itch worse.

 

[spinner2]

The itching is inflammation. You guys should try as much stuff as possible to get the itch under control, because that will go a long way in stopping your hairloss. What I've found to help is finasteride, RU58841, nizoral, apple cider vinegar, and a good 8+ hours of sleep a night.

 

[Guest]

The itching is inflammation. You guys should try as much stuff as possible to get the itch under control, because that will go a long way in stopping your hairloss. What I've found to help is finasteride, RU58841, nizoral, apple cider vinegar, and a good 8+ hours of sleep a night.

Yeah I've tried a lot of stuff believe me, but nothing seems to work. Some days its ok but then the itch comes back with a vengeance. Last time I tried acv it made my scalp burn. Betamethasone is ok for fighting the itch but I don't think I should be using it every day. Nizoral also makes my scalp feel like it's in fire. What's that RU58841 stuff?

 

[IBM]

The only thing that stops my itch for a while is... 100 mg of Oral spironolactone. Believe me. I tooked in three occasions and it stopped in less than an hour.

 

[Guest]

The only thing that stops my itch for a while is... 100 mg of Oral spironolactone. Believe me. I tooked in three occasions and it stopped in less than an hour.

Well I thought your hair took a leap for the better at some point despite the itch? Now that tells that there's still hope for us itching fuckers.

 

[JayB]

When you say tingle, could you expand on this? Ive dealt with this strange sensation on my head that seems to occur during times of shedding but its not an itche...it feels like a feather being stroked against the tip of my hair. Or perhaps like a water droplet hitting my hair and moving the position of them.

its hard to explain. its as though i can actually feel every hair that i shed throughout the day fall out and onto the hair around it. GRR i hate that feeling

 

[IBM]

The only thing that stops my itch for a while is... 100 mg of Oral spironolactone. Believe me. I tooked in three occasions and it stopped in less than an hour.

Well I thought your hair took a leap for the better at some point despite the itch? Now that tells that there's still hope for us itching fuckers.

My hair is now a little better.
Now i shampoo with an agressive anti-psoriasis, severe seb. dermatitis shampoo. I'm constantly shedding white flaking skin soon instead of attach to scalp, spread and rot causing major burn inflamation.
The cons of the shampoo is: i'm shedding a bit of hair.

Oral spironolactone was a great add for my regimen. I definitely maintained and my hair is very thick like i used to have before male pattern baldness. Still i'm Norwood 3.5-4.

I'm only taking 50 mg because its too much expensive. My family Doctor refused to write a prescription to my father to get Oral spironolactone for half price of what i paid in an online pharmacy. Pff....
If i could take 100 or 200 mg i could have great effect on hair.

 

[IBM]

When you say tingle, could you expand on this? Ive dealt with this strange sensation on my head that seems to occur during times of shedding but its not an itche...it feels like a feather being stroked against the tip of my hair. Or perhaps like a water droplet hitting my hair and moving the position of them.

Imagine very small parts of your scalp being shirking or tightening and becoming rigid. Other different sensation of itching is like a very small worm wandering in your scalp forming small plaques of dead flaking skin. That's a slow and suffering death sensation :cry: .

 

[Jkkezh]

The itching is inflammation. You guys should try as much stuff as possible to get the itch under control, because that will go a long way in stopping your hairloss. What I've found to help is finasteride, RU58841, nizoral, apple cider vinegar, and a good 8+ hours of sleep a night.

Interesting that you mention the 8+ hours of sleep. I also had a problem with itching painfull scalp especially in the MBP area's and this was usually at its worst when I had slept very little, working a lot, stress.
Even taking a little nap in the afternoon helped a lot for me at reducing this itch.

I've also tried ACV, cayenne, scalp excersizes/massage, cold showers, and cut down shampoo use to 1-2 times a week . Those things also helped, but I think sleep might have been the most important.

 

[JayWalker69]

Try the scalp massage. It's been posted on here a couple times (do a search).

Even if it doesn't help with the itch, it feels so good!!

By the way, I also had some itching the first 4 or 5 months of finasteride which *seemed* to correspond with shedding. :nosmile:

 

[youngbaldie]

The male pattern baldness itch and tingle feels like your scalp is on fire. Your scalp always looks very red and inflamed, particularly in the thinning areas, although sometimes around the whole head, even the ears are affected.

There is also a lot of pussing and bleeding. When you scratch and shed hair, there is usually a sticky white grease/gunk attached to the hair. The scalp bleeds even when you don't scratch it for a few weeks. Its an intense itch/burn/tingle.

The only things that seem to help slightly are anti-androgens, Nizoral, and T-Gel (with menthol).

Its actually because of this itch and bleeding that I believe in some cases male pattern baldness is even more than a 'cosmetic' disorder. Its some kind of auto-immune disease, just not on a macro level. Its probably comparable to psoriasis in the severe cases. The itching is so bad that it can cause insomnia because you keep waking up scratching and even dream about it. I believe this is a significant dermatological/endocrinological disorder that needs to be treated because it causes significant interference with functioning both psychologically and physically.

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

The male pattern baldness itch and tingle feels like your scalp is on fire. Your scalp always looks very red and inflamed, particularly in the thinning areas, although sometimes around the whole head, even the ears are affected.

There is also a lot of pussing and bleeding. When you scratch and shed hair, there is usually a sticky white grease/gunk attached to the hair. The scalp bleeds even when you don't scratch it for a few weeks. Its an intense itch/burn/tingle.

The only things that seem to help slightly are anti-androgens, Nizoral, and T-Gel (with menthol).

Its actually because of this itch and bleeding that I believe in some cases male pattern baldness is even more than a 'cosmetic' disorder. Its some kind of auto-immune disease, just not on a macro level. Its probably comparable to psoriasis in the severe cases. The itching is so bad that it can cause insomnia because you keep waking up scratching and even dream about it. I believe this is a significant dermatological/endocrinological disorder that needs to be treated because it causes significant interference with functioning both psychologically and physically.

Excellent post.

 

[IBM]

The male pattern baldness itch and tingle feels like your scalp is on fire. Your scalp always looks very red and inflamed, particularly in the thinning areas, although sometimes around the whole head, even the ears are affected.

There is also a lot of pussing and bleeding. When you scratch and shed hair, there is usually a sticky white grease/gunk attached to the hair. The scalp bleeds even when you don't scratch it for a few weeks. Its an intense itch/burn/tingle.

The only things that seem to help slightly are anti-androgens, Nizoral, and T-Gel (with menthol).

Its actually because of this itch and bleeding that I believe in some cases male pattern baldness is even more than a 'cosmetic' disorder. Its some kind of auto-immune disease, just not on a macro level. Its probably comparable to psoriasis in the severe cases. The itching is so bad that it can cause insomnia because you keep waking up scratching and even dream about it. I believe this is a significant dermatological/endocrinological disorder that needs to be treated because it causes significant interference with functioning both psychologically and physically.

Excelent post. Thats why man with very severe itch and burn sensation must take potent anti-androgens to have some quality in life.

From my experience finasteride is very weak for this.

 

[newguy2006]

i'm convinced that the scalp dermatitis and inflammation so commonly talked about in regard to hair loss is actually caused by delayed food allergies. i believe that these allergies can manifest themselves with a variety of symptoms - excema, psoriasis, acne, dermatitis, etc. this also explains why many people don't respond to propecia alone, because it's a different culprit altogether that's making the situation what it is. i believe in this reason moreso due to the fact that i think it applies to me. if i quit eating wheat and gluten of all kinds (even the trace amounts in soy sauce) my scalp itches considerably less and i get significantly less acne. if i eat a lot of wheat all at once (a pizza or sandwich, for instance) my scalp itches considerably worse the next several days, my skin flares up, and i get dry itchy rashes on my upper arms. all of this isn't immediate, but it lasts for several days and takes time to clear up. needless to say, i think everything is more connected to diet than most people are willing to admit. i'm getting tested for food allergies this friday, so hopefully i can determine what other foods in my diet are causing such problems. unfortunately i am unable to test for delayed allergies where i am currently living.

for anyone interested in this, check out the following link:

http://www.foodallergytest.com/faq.html#1

 

[Guest]

i'm convinced that the scalp dermatitis and inflammation so commonly talked about in regard to hair loss is actually caused by delayed food allergies. i believe that these allergies can manifest themselves with a variety of symptoms - excema, psoriasis, acne, dermatitis, etc. this also explains why many people don't respond to propecia alone, because it's a different culprit altogether that's making the situation what it is. i believe in this reason moreso due to the fact that i think it applies to me. if i quit eating wheat and gluten of all kinds (even the trace amounts in soy sauce) my scalp itches considerably less and i get significantly less acne. if i eat a lot of wheat all at once (a pizza or sandwich, for instance) my scalp itches considerably worse the next several days, my skin flares up, and i get dry itchy rashes on my upper arms. all of this isn't immediate, but it lasts for several days and takes time to clear up. needless to say, i think everything is more connected to diet than most people are willing to admit. i'm getting tested for food allergies this friday, so hopefully i can determine what other foods in my diet are causing such problems. unfortunately i am unable to test for delayed allergies where i am currently living.

for anyone interested in this, check out the following link:

http://www.foodallergytest.com/faq.html#1

What would you say are the "safe foods" to eat in this case? I believe I got the same thing happening... I would like to test it with a safe diet for a few weeks to see if anything positive happens.

 

[ShedMaster]

Try applying a moisturizing lotion when the condition flares up. Johnson and johnson makes some excellent healing lotions that include small amounts of baby oil which should help this out. Very inexpensive solution. Check it out.

 

[Guest]

Try applying a moisturizing lotion when the condition flares up. Johnson and johnson makes some excellent healing lotions that include small amounts of baby oil which should help this out. Very inexpensive solution. Check it out.

I'm using betamethasone at the moment. It usually helps a lot, but I can't use it all the time since it thins out the skin (basically the same as hydrocortizone). I'm not sure if Johnson & Johnson products are available here in Finland, but I will check it out if they are.