Virile Mane + Hair Signals- somethings finally happening

[ryand2]

I just wanted to quickly post that i've been using virile mane and hair signals for somewhere over a month now... I forget when I started, but am assuming that it was late october/early november. What I just wanted to say is I actually have terminal hairs popping up on my hairline. What I'm really impressed with is the one spot on the left side of my hairline that I keep an eye on ALL the time. In the past month and a half there are two terminal hairs that have taken up residence there and theres at least 6 vellus hairs going terminal around the other two... I'm really excited about these products. Not only that, but there are additional tiny little hairs that are in my widows peaks and tempals that are getting darker and longer. I feel like something is really happening and I'm excited.

Since the summer of 06 i've used minoxidil in many forms (spectral dnc/rogaine foam/ back to spectral dnc/ then just using the straight liquid) and over the summer i tried promox and nanominox. I used the nanominox sparingly over the past few months and dont even use it at all now because the top was loose and kept falling off. bottom line is that I think it spoiled as the color became darker and it took on a foul odor. I feel confident enough with my new regimine that I'm going to stick it out as I actaully have results.

-oh and I quit finasteride the summer of 07 as it had crushed my libido and gave me flimsy erections. I'm off it now and am able to pop them up like I should be able to at the age of 21.

 

[ryand2]

I should have mentioned that I still use regular liquid minoxidil and mix hair signlas with minoxidil THEN apply it. I also didnt mention that I have a TON of vellus hairs popping up and getting longer all over the front portion of my head

 

[kento]

Great work mate I'm also mixing 3 drops of hair signals in 1ml minoxidil (been maybe one week on this) nothing new to report by far. Hope to have frontal success

 

[goata007]

Where would you put yourself on a Norwood scale? and looking at new vellus hair growing how much improvement (on a Norwood scale) are you expecting? Also, are you using Hair Signals Therapy Solution or Cream?

 

[LookingForAnswers]

I have been really slack in using this stuff since I ordered it, only once or twice a week, so can't expect any thing so far. I have read other forums of people using this and getting some pretty good results, so I am gonna make of point of using it from now. From reviews its seems this stuff is the real thing, hope it works as well for me.

 

[follicle84]

Whats this hair signals stuff? and where can i get it from?

 

[goata007]

Whats this hair signals stuff? and where can i get it from?

www.skinbiology.com

 

[LookingForAnswers]

Forget about the Hair Signals stuff, its crap, just like his prior formulations, a poor substitute for Tricomin. On the other hand Virile Mane seems to be quite effective from user reviews on various forums, that is what I am sticking with.

 

[Withnail]

'Virile Mane' I could be ignorant but something about the name puts me off!

 

[goata007]

Forget about the Hair Signals stuff, its crap, just like his prior formulations, a poor substitute for Tricomin.

What do you base that assertion on? Dr. Pickart is the same guy who invented tricommin, I doubt after making good stuff he'll start selling crap.

 

[Cassin]

Forget about the Hair Signals stuff, its crap, just like his prior formulations, a poor substitute for Tricomin. .

Nonsense....I have used both for a very long time.

Well the regular folligen cream anyway which is the main base of HS.

Folligen and Tricomin are both very good products with their own pros/cons.

 

[techprof]

let's not forget that tricomin peptide has fda backing (phase 1 and phase 2). Neither Folligen nor proxiphen-N can claim this.

 

[treadstone]

I'm still perplexed why Dr. Pickart doesn't try to create a formulation of new specific copper peptides that demonstrate themselves to be more effective than Tricomin's Alanine/Histidine/Lysine formula. That strikes me as the next logical step in improving over Tricomin. Perhaps the current method of folligen/HS comes somewhat close because it's cheap to make and can be distributed in higher concentrations, but it seems like Pickart is just content to keep that basic idea and just add ingredients with some evidence as antiandrogens (lavender oil, etc).

I was looking in the old alt.baldspot posts not too long and Pickart deflected criticisms of Folligen by saying there was no advantage to using a specific peptide, that they work all about the same - which is obviously incorrect based on scientific studies and the whole purpose of Tricomin's development in the first place. :dunno:

 

[techprof]

treadstone,
I am with you on this. I would like to know the concn. of peptide in tricomin.

I believe tricomin's patent should have expired by now. Some one like Pickart or Lee or Klein should try to dissolve this peptide at different cocentration and offer with or without minoxidil at a cheaper rate.

of the three (prox-n, tricomin, folligen) I rate the prox-n the most. However, imho the specific peptide used by tricomin might be more beneficial for hairgrowth compared to a particular sod in prox-n. Also, tricomin might be cheaping us out by not putting enough peptide in their spray.

this sucks.

 

[treadstone]

The concentration in Tricomin is around 2%. They've never revealed the exact percentages but said it's between 1.25% and 2.5%. I think 2.5% was what was used in the FDA trials, but the final Tricomin product has a better 'vehicle' for delivery than the clinical one.

It's pretty expensive to create those specific CP's, which may be why even if the patent expired others aren't hopping on board.

 

[techprof]

treadstone, thanks. if it is 2%, I feel better.

 

[Cassin]

let's not forget that tricomin peptide has fda backing (phase 1 and phase 2). Neither Folligen nor proxiphen-N can claim this.

Of course....you are right now doubt. But I know by how my scalp feels its working.

 

[SoThatsLife]

Have the phase 2 studies been released?

For all it's worth, phase 1 is just safety and don't really prove much. phase 2 is dosing and to show how well it works. To me it's a little odd that it stopped after phase 2, especially if there is no published info on growth from that study. And if it was as good as they said for regrowth, surely they would have investors.

To be honest, I think SOD and CP are good for scalp health, and in that way helping finasteride/min/keto etc to work better. But on it's own I haven't seen any good results.

 

[amsch]

ryand, how you're doing? still going great? Any pictures, maybe?

btw, are you on propecia/how old are you, which Norwood?

Many questions :O

 

[Petchsky]

Any updates on hair signals? Just ordered some to add to my minoxidil, was using the super cp serum, but have ran out. Also purchased some emu oil to help with absorption before applying the minoxidil/hair signals.

Should be beneficial for my scalp and hopefully bring on early growth on my trnasplant.