Vitamin / DHT Blocker Recommendations

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DeterminedGuy

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Hi all,

So this is my first post here. A quick overview of my condition. I had very slight thinning at the vortex starting at 28, but it wasnt until 32 when I started to see a slight advancement in the thinning. Then again at 34 another leap. Now at 36, as of december my hair decided it was time to play with my emotions and pack its bags and throw in the towel. Its at the point where I need to start making decisions. I am not good with this norwood scale, but basically I have what looks like a Norwood 3 or 5 without the front receding. Every 3 months my hair is basically taking leaps forward. I can still hide the issues within the crown by styling it and using Toppik but this wont last long.

Exactly one year ago I started Rogaine and switched to Regenepure Hair Loss Shampoo. It seemed to work for a few months, but the reality is it all did nothing. I almost feel like Rogaine made things worse with the sheds. Funny, my hair was always on the thinner side so I never noticed much hair loss in hand but probably cause I dont need to lose allot to be hurt by it.

Ok so brings me to my next step, I am at the point where I need to make some decisions:

1. I am quitting smoking, a year or so ago I started smoking more heavily. I went from a pack a week to almost a half pack or more a day. Dont know if it did, but hair loss increased around this time.
2. Changing my diet. I dont drink much water at all, I am going to up it to 8 or more glasses a day. I am a coffee all day guy, not good. Planning to drop 10-15 lbs, adding in healthier choices to my meals.
3. Going to start jogging, doing more cardio weekly. I stopped a little over a year ago, I'm going back to 3 or more days a week.

I am on the fence about looking into RU, but I am considering it. For now I would like to introduce a good vitamin with biotin, DHT blocker if anyone could recommend? I have searched for HOURS and found nothing promising. If I am going to shell out cash, I want a respected and possibly effective (if such a thing exists) vitamin.

I am at a loss here guys, and really starting to sink in. I most certainly will not look good with a shaved head, so I am debating on the FUE procedure for the future. I would upload photos, but dont think anyone is truly interested.

Appreciate your feedback guys!
 
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Congratulations on quitting smoking, taking up jogging and a better diet. It will help with various aspects of your health, improve your skin, your voice, and your body composition.

But it will have negligible or no impact on your hair. There are no convincingly demonstrated links between nutrition, fitness, and hair loss. Those other things are important in general, they might be important for hair, but it's not demonstrated and nobody has any idea how it might work.

If you want to help with your hair, read up on what this forum has to say on:

finasteride/dutasteride
minoxidil
RU58851
Stemoxydine
nizoral
spironolactone
hair transplants
 
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Thanks.

I am aware of all of them, and know its pretty hit or miss as each person responds differently. I am just desperate to stop or realistically slow the loss of hair. If I can buy a few years, I will be very happy about it. I dont know if I am going through some shed right now, its been a year and like I said suddenly I lost quite a bit of hair at once around the crown. So I want to try and step it up, but anything that will hinder sexual performance is just not on the table. I had friends on finasteride and too many undesirable tradeoffs/issues.

Reading about saw palmetto, pumpkin seed.. on and on. I just cant seem to find an all in one that most agree on. Also cant seem to find a proper amount or dosage, i'll gladly buy each individually and combine to get what I need. Ugh, so frustrating... I'd like to switch off rogaine to may lipogaine or something else at this point. 1 year in, lost 3X's the hair.. I can only wonder if rogaine made things worse (or was this the natural progression and it did nothing to stop it).

On the topic of vitamins/dht blockers... anyone try ultra labs hair maxx? Any improvements when added to their regimen? I am not finding too many threads, so chances are its useless stuff like the rest.
 
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DeterminedGuy said:
Thanks.

I am aware of all of them, and know its pretty hit or miss as each person responds differently. I am just desperate to stop or realistically slow the loss of hair. If I can buy a few years, I will be very happy about it. I dont know if I am going through some shed right now, its been a year and like I said suddenly I lost quite a bit of hair at once around the crown. So I want to try and step it up, but anything that will hinder sexual performance is just not on the table. I had friends on finasteride and too many undesirable tradeoffs/issues.

Reading about saw palmetto, pumpkin seed.. on and on. I just cant seem to find an all in one that most agree on. Also cant seem to find a proper amount or dosage, i'll gladly buy each individually and combine to get what I need. Ugh, so frustrating... I'd like to switch off rogaine to may lipogaine or something else at this point. 1 year in, lost 3X's the hair.. I can only wonder if rogaine made things worse (or was this the natural progression and it did nothing to stop it).

On the topic of vitamins/dht blockers... anyone try ultra labs hair maxx? Any improvements when added to their regimen? I am not finding too many threads, so chances are its useless stuff like the rest.
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Most people on these boards will tell you that saw palmetto, pumpkin seed oil, rice bran extract, apple cider vinergar, laminaria japonica, vitamin E, zinc, rosemary oil, et cetera will never work.

The way I see it, they might, but you're rolling the dice. The clinical "studies" for these drugs are all of tertiary quality or worse. They are untrustworthy. To the extent these drugs might work, we will never know with reasonable certainty as there will likely never be a competent investigation.

Further, if they do work, they probably have side effects too. Any drug/herb that has an actual measurable effect on the body has the capacity to be both good and bad. Lots of natural things out there are bad for you. Personally I'm convinced that saw palmetto has both a small positive effect on hair loss, but I'm also convinced by the reports of side effect.

At least with the real drugs there is better documentation of what happens.
 
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I seriously doubt that vitamins/zinc will have any tangible effect on your DHT levels.
 
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Having used many of the commone hair loss vitamin stuff, and reading everyone else trying them I dont think they do much of anything long term really. I am the first one to say drugs arent a good thing generally speaking to take, but I think in this case propecia is one of the only real options. I had sides similar to finasteride on saw palmetto so it might work to a degree, but in that case why not use finasteride instead? At least with finasteride the sides, and benefits are known. With SP your just guessing maybe you get sides but no hair benefit. Hair vitamins are kind of a joke IMO its a feel good treatment where you enjoy that placebo effect, and the idea your using all natural supplements vs some drug. Its not the right thought process for male pattern baldness
 
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