want to try spironolactone

longhair1983

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I want to add spironolactone in my routine. Can anybody tell me how long it takes to dry? My understanding is that I should use minoxidil first and then apply spironolactone. Is there anyone using 15% minoxidil with spironolactone? I am just worried that it will take too long to dry.
 

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You can get spironolactone as a cream. So you don't have to worry about drying. The liquid version smells bad especially when you sweat the chemical breaks down and emits a bad odor. I think it's the same with the cream. I heard it's good for the temples.
 

longhair1983

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ripple-effect said:
You can get spironolactone as a cream. So you don't have to worry about drying. The liquid version smells bad especially when you sweat the chemical breaks down and emits a bad odor. I think it's the same with the cream. I heard it's good for the temples.
If I use it with minoxidil, should I wait until minoxidil to dry before applying spironolactone cream?
 

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Yes, that should be fine.

It should be noted though you won't find any spironolactone/minoxidil solutions because if these 2 chemicals were mixed together they would degrade each other in a few hours rendering each other ineffective. It should be ok if you applied them from separate containers though, but like I said many times before... I always hated the idea of applying minoxidil to my scalp. That doesn't really stop the hair loss. All it takes is good, effective topical DHT inhibitor if you're in the early stages of hair loss.
 

TheLastHairbender

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I'm using both Rogaine foam and topical 5% S5 spironolactone purchased from the gourmetstylewellness.com store. The spironolactone does take some time to dry or set or whatever you want to call it...after 5-15 minutes it no longer appears white on the scalp but the scalp and hair still feel a bit greasy for up to an hour. It dries a little stiff too but the hair can easily be ruffled back to a more natural look - this problem is worse when applying it after minoxidil which tends to dry stiff on my hair too. All-in-all it's not that bad though, not any worse than using minoxidil alone except for the white lotion-y color on the scalp for the first 10 minutes after application. I use it only at night now because I don't think spironolactone'd hair would fly very well at work. (I take my finasteride first thing in the morning and apply spironolactone at night, so at least it makes me feel like 24 hour DHT protection).

Regarding the application time with minoxidil, I've read Dr. Lee recommended applying the minoxidil first, then the spironolactone about 10 minutes later. I was thinking about switching the order back-and-forth daily to average out the effect, but have stuck to Dr. Lee's recommendation of minoxidil, then spironolactone 10-20 minutes later.

You should also note that the S5 spironolactone cream sold on this website also contains .025% Tretinoin (Retin-A) which is known to increase skin cell turnover and has been said to improve the effectiveness of minoxidil. I've read that the order of Retin-A and minoxidil application is unimportant, as Retin-A's action on the skin takes place over a long period of time when used daily, so you're looking for long-term effects and not an acute impact on minoxidil's absorption or anything.

The spironolactone has been gentle to me, and that's about all I can say. I've been using it once daily for about two months now alongside finasteride and minoxidil with no noticeable results from anything but it's still very early. It's a simple thing to integrate into a regimen to fight DHT from another angle and I'd say a natural next-step once you're comfortable with the big 3 and looking for something more. It is pretty well understood compared to some of the experimental substances out there and seems to be generally tolerated well by those who use it topically for male pattern baldness. Hope that info helps, good luck!
 

TheLastHairbender

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No prob buddy, good luck!
 

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TheLastHairbender said:
You should also note that the S5 spironolactone cream sold on this website also contains .025% Tretinoin (Retin-A) which is known to increase skin cell turnover and has been said to improve the effectiveness of minoxidil. I've read that the order of Retin-A and minoxidil application is unimportant, as Retin-A's action on the skin takes place over a long period of time when used daily, so you're looking for long-term effects and not an acute impact on minoxidil's absorption or anything.

The S5 cream contains Retinol, NOT Retin-A. Retinol is not as effective for male pattern baldness.
 

TheLastHairbender

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JWM said:
TheLastHairbender said:
You should also note that the S5 spironolactone cream sold on this website also contains .025% Tretinoin (Retin-A) which is known to increase skin cell turnover and has been said to improve the effectiveness of minoxidil. I've read that the order of Retin-A and minoxidil application is unimportant, as Retin-A's action on the skin takes place over a long period of time when used daily, so you're looking for long-term effects and not an acute impact on minoxidil's absorption or anything.

The S5 cream contains Retinol, NOT Retin-A. Retinol is not as effective for male pattern baldness.


Pretty sure it's Retin-A.

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The label claims "Retinoic Acid (Retin-A)", although I would entertain debate as to the validity of this claim. Whether it's the classical form of Retin-A - "all-trans retinoic acid" or ATRA - is unclear. Either way Retinoic Acid is converted to Retinol in the body however. And the point remains that it may be overkill (in terms of increasing the likelihood of irritation and inflammation) to apply a separate Tretinoin Retin-A in addition to this product.
 

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helo..
I was planning to use S5 cream... what u sae S5 contain Retin-A ..
then whats the difference between Retin-A (tretinion) vs S5 cream.

i think S5 is more than that which contains spironolactone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spironolactone

either way can spironolactone help to reduce Fins doses?

hence both r doing almost same thing externally & internally
 

longhair1983

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I know there are lot of debate on if finasteride really causes losing sex drive side effects. Has anyone ever experience the same side effect with spironolactone?
 

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I just started using spironolactone along with minoxidil at nights. I use the cream before and let dry around 10-15 minutes and then apply minoxidil.
 

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ripple-effect said:
Yes, that should be fine.

All it takes is good, effective topical DHT inhibitor if you're in the early stages of hair loss.

You make it sound so easy haha. What else is recommendable as an effective DHT inhibitor? I use minoxodil with azelaic acid at the moment, nizoral and finasteride ...

Are there any products that further complement the "BIG 3"?
 
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