What Are These Bent Crooked Hairs? Does Anyone Else Have This?

[dralex]

Hey so I have had these weird crooked bent hairs growing all over my scalp. I feel its about time to post about it because I cannot find out the answer. Dermatologists are literally no help because they barely even look at what I am talking about. So lately I have been getting more of these crooked bent hairs all over my head. They are especially prevalent on my crown. Before there were just a few of them but now they are all over my head. I am starting to think they are miniaturized hairs, but they don't look like the miniaturized hairs I have on my hairline.

A little background: I am 22. I started on propecia and rogaine a little over 2 years ago because my hairline was receding pretty rapidly. I apply rogaine on my hairline and my crown (even though I had no crown loss when starting). Propecia has not really been working and my hairline is now destroyed, receding in the middle and way back at the temples. There is no bald spot on my crown but I have major thinning all over my scalp. My scalp feels like 3x thinner than when I started treatments (used to be crazy thick). Ever since I started these treatments I noticed these weird hairs, and I have been getting more and more lately. They aren't even thinner than my normal hair (actually some are thicker), they just are crooked, grow slower, are slightly darker, and are a weird texture. Do you think rogaine is causing this and I should cut it out? Maybe these are some weird rogaine hairs? Maybe its just miniaturized hairs? If anyone else is experiencing this please help.

I have attached the pictures. One of the photos just shows the crooked hairs. The other picture has some of the crooked hairs next to my normal hairs.
Attached are the pictures:

 

[Roberto_72]

I cannot see well the length of the hair but it seems medium length. It might be just hair naturally falling out because it has reached its final stage of growth (telogen).

The fact these particular strands grow slower might be due to male pattern baldness rather than minoxidil. male pattern baldness does exactly this: makes the hair lifecycle shorter and - mostly through sebum - gives it a weird crooked look.

 

[whatevr]

The hairs in my thinning areas bend down and will not stand upright like the healthier hairs. It's probably simply to do with the weakening of the hair shaft and the lower hair diameter.

 

[dralex]

I cannot see well the length of the hair but it seems medium length. It might be just hair naturally falling out because it has reached its final stage of growth (telogen).

The fact these particular strands grow slower might be due to male pattern baldness rather than minoxidil. male pattern baldness does exactly this: makes the hair lifecycle shorter and - mostly through sebum - gives it a weird crooked look.

I am not sure the hairs are actually shorter. They may just look shorter because they have all these bends and twists. I didn't pull these hairs out. I cut them with scissors at different spots of my scalp so they may be varying lengths. The wiry hairs aren't at their terminal stage because they continue to grow, just with a different texture then the rest of the hair. They aren't even usually the hairs I shed. I am mostly shedding normal hairs. Also if I do pull out these bent crooked hairs, it doesn't feel the same as pulling out other hairs. When I pull it out, it almost feels irritated and feels good to get it out. Its hard to explain.

So does male pattern baldness cause your hair to get coarse and crooked? I thought miniaturized hairs were thinner and lighter. These hairs are actually darker and thicker than my normal hair. They just are super crooked. When I have my hair down they stick out of the rest of my hair. I have literally never seen anyone with male pattern baldness that has their hair do this.

 

[Roberto_72]

I think the reason for coarse hair might be that they're oily. Are they? Excessive sebum causes the so called "bad hair days" (for instance, women have "bad hair" in certain days of the cycle because their scalp produces more sebum). Excessive sebum is often exacerbated by male hormons. This does not mean that the same hair that falls is the coarse hair. However, coarse hair and thinning hair might have a common cause.

 

[tele]

I have been doing some research about these exact hairs. I have been noticing I have some too. One thing I commonly find when looking this up is something called "acquired progressive kinking of hair". Who freaking knows though lol, all of this is so confusing.

 

[Blackber]

Diffuse thinner here, I have the same issue.

 

[[email protected]]

Same, diffuse thinner. I have the exact same thing going on with some hairs.

 

[tele]

I have seen people in a bunch of telogen effluvium posts mention they have these kinky, springy type of hairs. Why do these happen? it's starting to bug me haha.

 

[Jane13]

Has anyone found the answer to the strange kinky bent hairs? I have them and they concern me. I lost over half my hair a year ago rapidly (was told I have CTE). I have tried to research what this is and keep finding some posts explaining the exact condition I have with the unusual hairs but there is no follow up responses what they mean. Are they permanently damaged hair? Does anyone have any more information?

 

[equel]

Dont know but Ive heard people with telogen effluvium often get those

 

[NotInmywatch]

@dralex

I've had these hairs for years without understanding what was the reason
These are my conclusions:

- these hairs are caused by malnourishment/disruption of the normal follicle health status.
- this malnourishment is more frequent in chronic tellogen effluvium patients than Androgenetic Alopecia. I have both.

additionally:

- I still was having these crooked hairs despite being 4 years on duta. I'm a diffuser.
- All hairs went normal when I started 3000 ui vitamin D3, so, in my case it was a malnourishment, and it resolved very rapidly (3 weeks), despite having crooked hairs for 10+ years. My thin eyebrows filled very rapidly too.

so:
if you don't have time/money to run a complete bloodwork, start with the main suspects: vit d3, iron, biotin, b12, zinc for a couple of months.
you should see improvements if your Androgenetic Alopecia is stabilized

 

[dralex]

@dralex

I've had these hairs for years without understanding what was the reason
These are my conclusions:

- these hairs are caused by malnourishment/disruption of the normal follicle health status.
- this malnourishment is more frequent in chronic tellogen effluvium patients than Androgenetic Alopecia. I have both.

additionally:

- I still was having these crooked hairs despite being 4 years on duta. I'm a diffuser.
- All hairs went normal when I started 3000 ui vitamin D3, so, in my case it was a malnourishment, and it resolved very rapidly (3 weeks), despite having crooked hairs for 10+ years. My thin eyebrows filled very rapidly too.

so:
if you don't have time/money to run a complete bloodwork, start with the main suspects: vit d3, iron, biotin, b12, zinc for a couple of months.
you should see improvements if your Androgenetic Alopecia is stabilized

I know this is an old post and not sure if you still use this but going to try this. Been on finasteride or duta for like 5-6 years now. Still thinning and receding, but some of hair has remained crooked for the past 5 years that still isn't gone so feel like these hair must be damaged as well from something else. They grow slower than the rest of the hairs and is in mostly thinner areas though, and are crooked and damaged feeling.