What Norwood Am I? - Yes, Another Question

Balding Scotsman

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As the title says. You guys seem to be the experts.

I'm 20 years old, been going bald since 14, on no meds.
 

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RaginDemon

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finasteride, minoxidil, and nizoral shampoo aka big 3

good luck!
 

Balding Scotsman

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Guys, I want a honest answer...

Is the "big 3" really worth it? Or am I too late, pics in first post, 20 y/o.

I'm really depressed.
 

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Balding Scotsman said:
Guys, I want a honest answer...

Is the "big 3" really worth it? Or am I too late, pics in first post, 20 y/o.

I'm really depressed.

Its never to late. Trying it for 12 months is not going to hurt. At least you have "hope." You could be a super responder who knows. Ive seen some people have incredible results with the Big 3 with hairloss as bad as yours, almost to the point where they have full heads of hair again! Althought that is rare, it can happen. Most people see improvment. However if nothing amazing happens after 12 months, then I probably ditch treatments. You will pretty much know within 3-4 months if your a super responder or not.

Im curious as to why you have taken so long to do something about your hairloss? Did it not bother you at the time? Surely at 14 your parents would of noticed your hair and sent you to a doctor. They could of prescribed you propecia. you could of saved your hair :(
 

Balding Scotsman

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I've distanced myself from meds for years afraid that it will make all my hair fall out or make it worse. Had the option at 16 to take Propecia but I turned it down because I didn't like the sound of the side effects.

Don't want to waste money, money that I don't have, on something that won't work, I'm not very optimistic about it, I need convincing.

If society didn't care so much about hairloss I couldn't care less about my hair, but a lot of people just don't let it go, I get knocked back at bars/clubs because, the bouncers have a rule here, superior men get priority for sake of "reputation" of a bar/club, better looking men for the women. I've been told this. Some guys with a shaven head gets in no problem but not everyone suits a shaven head, I don't, I just look like "trouble".

Its slowly ruining my life, I'm mentally unwell, and its making me angry and I'm hating a lot of things. I've talked to the doctor about this as it worries me. I'm off to see a psychiatrist. That's how serious the situation is. I'm having violent outbursts that I can't control. Its the constant rejection that has split me from society, does that make sense?
 

metalheaddude

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Yeah man for sure. Makes perfect sense to me. The effect of hairloss on mental health is greatly underestimated in every country around the world. Having said that, you should not be discouraged or become depressed, because there is some really exciting developments in hairloss treatments which could be available for us in as little as 3-4 years. Until then stay focused, concentrate of developing a strong mind and strong body by hittting the gym etc. Then when things like hair multiplication come along in a few years you can get all your hair back and get revenge on everyone and get all the ladies u want! :devil:

But honestly,remaining patient and optimistic is the key :)
 

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metalheaddude said:
Then when things like hair multiplication come along in a few years you can get all your hair back and get revenge on everyone and get all the ladies u want! :devil:

Yeah when he's 40 :roll: (REVENGE!!!!) :firing:
 

RaginDemon

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s.a.f said:
metalheaddude said:
Then when things like hair multiplication come along in a few years you can get all your hair back and get revenge on everyone and get all the ladies u want! :devil:

Yeah when he's 40 :roll: (REVENGE!!!!) :firing:

I agree with saf, this HM thing is so far away from here, no point of keep dreaming about it.
 

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RaginDemon..

HM is not gonna be 20 years off...

But even more importantly to the young lad... Stem Cell treatment like Follica's is only a few years off... there is a link to a video clip from american tv news, this young lad should watch that... I believe honestly beleive this lad can have a proper head of hair again by the time he is 30, might cost him a few bob... but he'll get there... thing is he is proabably a good lookin lad too.. his skin type and his hair colour hints at it...

start the big 3 - u have nothing to loose

the cure will come soon enough its just a matter of them fine tuning the breakthrough they have discovered...

Iv said this before... if women suffered from male pattern baldness, there would of been a cure already!!!!!

blokes dont complain... they bottle it all in and it effects their health... women release their emotions becuase they are open socialy more dynamic
 

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So....now they don't let bald people into clubs do they? "Heaven forbid a *gasp* bald person enters our esteemd establishment!"......."Have you HEARD? There's a b-b-bbald person in the club!..I've informed security, but he's still here, oh the horror!" Dude, screw that place! We should recruit a hundred overweight, unshaven bald men that live in the area to stand in line at the club until their precious reputation goes down the shitter. I'll lead the way, I'll even wear my bathrobe. As soon as that place goes under, maybe it will turn into a gym and we can all go there and work out.
Anyways, about your original question, my hair wasn;t much better than yours when I started treatments and they worked out very nicely. So yeah, like someone said, you never know.....Also, a cure MAY come out and it may not. Try it out and see, the only thing u have to lose are the best years of your life (if you worry about it like I did.) Good luck with everything!
 

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Balding Scotsman said:
Guys, I want a honest answer...

Is the "big 3" really worth it? Or am I too late, pics in first post, 20 y/o.

I'm really depressed.

Why are you so late on seeking help if your hairloss has made you depressed?
 

s.a.f

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chancer said:
the cure will come soon enough its just a matter of them fine tuning the breakthrough they have discovered...

Iv said this before... if women suffered from male pattern baldness, there would of been a cure already!!!!!

blokes dont complain... they bottle it all in and it effects their health... women release their emotions becuase they are open socialy more dynamic

Maybe blokes hide it more but believe me the pharm companies know the potential value of a m.p.b cure and they always have done.
 

s.a.f

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Balding Scotsman said:
Guys, I want a honest answer...
Is the "big 3" really worth it? Or am I too late, pics in first post, 20 y/o.
I'm really depressed.

You're only 20 it might be bad now but if you can keep that hair you still have how will you feel about it in 10/20/30/40 yrs when most of your peers are also expeirencing hairloss.
 

Balding Scotsman

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ghg said:
Why are you so late on seeking help if your hairloss has made you depressed?

Decided to just let things be, if people don't like it that's just tough sh*t, I'd rather save the money up for my car than spend it like "top-us" for my social life. Nothing will grow back its just a fake dream, I've lost too much.
 

s.a.f

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As I said though in 10 yrs time do would you want the hair you still have now or a shiney smooth scalp? I get 1 yrs proscar for about £100.
 

30_going_on_60

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My 2 cents worth is that it isn't a "fake dream" to have some regrowth. What happenned to me was that I didn;t get much new rgroth, but the crappy thin hair I had on top of my head came out a lot thicker after treatments. The difference was enough to give me som emore confidence and I;ve said this a million times on here, but it IS easier to cope with when you're over 25 than it is when you're still getting an allowance.
 

Balding Scotsman

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I've lost much more hair now in just 3 months.

Doctor has found this unusual - why I'm losing hair at this rate - he reckons its one of the most severe forms of male pattern baldness. It keeps falling out in chunks like a dog. By say two years time my receding hairline will have met my baldness from the back giving me the horseshoe. Going at such a fast rate. A horseshoe by the age of 22/23 - no wonder I'm going mental, I'm very unstable at the moment and lost a lot of self-esteem and confidence. People say just deal with it - but that's easy said than done. Its tough.
 

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Mate - can't imagine how rough that would be on you. I've had a thinning crown for the last 5 years and have roughly maintained on meds, but at least I'm now over 30...

Take a look through the success stories forum. You still have coverage everywhere, the follicles won't yet be dead. I think with you shaved dome, religious application / ingestion of finasteride, minoxidil, Nizoral shampoo (twice a week) and generally eating and living well, you've got every chance of getting good regrowth. It happens, and I'd suggest that at your age, it's well worth trying...

Good luck.

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(def)initely. at least give the big three a go especially if youve only recently lost it.
for £20 a month its worth a try. give it a year mate.
 

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Here is my advice. If you can find a doctor who will prescribe you avodart it's
a chance for thickening and 100% stability (but a lot more expensive than proscar). Finasteride is too weak for aggressive hairloss.
If you can't get avodart prescription you still could take proscar 5mg instead of splitting it into
quarters it works a little bit better than just 1mg. (Don't buy it when people /doctors tell you it's not more effective than 1 mg finasteride, the more you block the dht the higher is the chance for regrowth and what is even more important that you will have stability and not lose the regrowth so fast and here the chances with 5 mg are much better compared to 1mg)
You can also take rogaine extra strong which at least should thicken your hair and maintain the existing one.
If you want to do it you should plan to take this stuff for about 1.5-2 years. Yes, it takes a long time to get stability
an results in between you will shed a lot...

I also have some kind of not controllable aggressiveness. I can imagine how hard it must be for you,
people suck I know that.


good luck mate
 
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