What Stage Am I At And Should A Keep Growing?!

Otis James

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Hi guys! I’m very new here and I’d love your advice..
I’ve always had quite a lot of matted/surfer kind of hair! These photos perhaps make it look worse than it is but my hairline is becoming thinner and uneven. I’m in a band and I suppose I’m a bit precious about keeping my Barnet! How bad do you think my situation is and what are my options.
Thanks for your help guys!
 

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It's about a nw2 but you have amazing density.
If you ever did want a transplant down the line (not that you need it now) you would be a perfect candidate.
 

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It's about a nw2 but you have amazing density.
If you ever did want a transplant down the line (not that you need it now) you would be a perfect candidate.
Thank you very much for replying. What would you suggest I do now? Just live with it? Wait until it gets worse? Been wondering if those fibre things might be worth a try.....
 

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Defo finasteride. It’s the only way to halt it realistically

Ahh man really?! I’ve heard horror stories about that stuff... Bad side effects etc! I suppose I have to weigh it all up. Risk taking that drug and hope It doesn’t negatively effect me, or embrace the baldness..
 

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Ahh man really?! I’ve heard horror stories about that stuff... Bad side effects etc! I suppose I have to weigh it all up. Risk taking that drug and hope It doesn’t negatively effect me, or embrace the baldness..
Yeah it’s up to you definitely, weigh up the pros and cons read up about the sides and potential shedding. But in my opinion you have an amazing head of hair for your age with very mild hair loss, so you have the best chance of retaining what you have
 

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Yeah it’s up to you definitely, weigh up the pros and cons read up about the sides and potential shedding. But in my opinion you have an amazing head of hair for your age with very mild hair loss, so you have the best chance of retaining what you have
Do you think, if I started taking Finesteride, it would be unlikely to get any worse? Is there even a small chance it would improve again?
 

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defo get on the finasteride. if your hairline is only thinned you'll get it all back. but finasteride also will let you keep whatever you have.
if there's completely bald patches transplant might be only option. but then again transplant needs to be coupled with finasteride to work.
 

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defo get on the finasteride. if your hairline is only thinned you'll get it all back. but finasteride also will let you keep whatever you have.
if there's completely bald patches transplant might be only option. but then again transplant needs to be coupled with finasteride to work.
I’ve just ordered some me from Boots online! Didn’t know you could do that. Had to do an online consultation and stuff.
Anyway, I don’t mind admitting I’m very nervous about taking it. Some of the things I’ve read about irreversible sexual problems are a massive worry to me. The logical side of me keeps thinking, surely not one bloke on here would sacrifice libido, erection etc, to have more hair, which kind of reassured me that it can’t be that bad....!
 

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Do you think, if I started taking Finesteride, it would be unlikely to get any worse? Is there even a small chance it would improve again?
For me I went through a shed for the first 5 months id say, a lot of people quit during this and then slander finasteride for ruining their hair but it does get better. For me it took 6 months for my hairline to thicken up and my shedding to stop, and I have extremely aggressive hairloss at 17. The chances of it ruining your hair are minute mate, the only real issue is libido and my advice would be to stick out any libido issues for a month but if they carry on go see a doctor, I had issues for the first month but then all back to normal. Also get generic finasteride from boots not propecia, it’s needlessly expensive. Good luck mate
 

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I’ve read up on finasteride today... I’m really not sure it’s worth the risk for the hair loss I have.. I’ve read some real horror stories. Is it true you could be taking it for years and then all of a sudden, big problems start?!
 

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I’ve read up on finasteride today... I’m really not sure it’s worth the risk for the hair loss I have.. I’ve read some real horror stories. Is it true you could be taking it for years and then all of a sudden, big problems start?!
There’s an extremely small chance, and if anything does happen then just quit the drug. Got to think about these scare stories though, millions of men take the drug and experience no side effects therefore they don’t feel the need to post on forums like these. So obviously forums are going to have a disproportionate amount of people experiencing sides because the average user doesn’t therefore doesn’t visit these places. It’s your call mate, u will keep your hair but there’s always the tiny chance it will give you sides. That said if it does stopping the drug will cause these sides to stop.
 

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There’s an extremely small chance, and if anything does happen then just quit the drug. Got to think about these scare stories though, millions of men take the drug and experience no side effects therefore they don’t feel the need to post on forums like these. So obviously forums are going to have a disproportionate amount of people experiencing sides because the average user doesn’t therefore doesn’t visit these places. It’s your call mate, u will keep your hair but there’s always the tiny chance it will give you sides. That said if it does stopping the drug will cause these sides to stop.
Thanks again for your comments mate. The sides that go away aren’t a massive concern... it’s the syndrome people report where the sides become permanent that really concern me... I realise it’s rare but it’s still a bit of Russian roulette! People have reported taking it for years and all of a sudden they have big problems that don’t go away.
 

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Thanks again for your comments mate. The sides that go away aren’t a massive concern... it’s the syndrome people report where the sides become permanent that really concern me... I realise it’s rare but it’s still a bit of Russian roulette! People have reported taking it for years and all of a sudden they have big problems that don’t go away.
No offence to anyone who claims it, but I just find that whole PFS stuff bollocks. All I’ve seen is a vocal minority who fear monger, especially with the depression stuff because the likely explanation is that they were just mentally unstable and are blaming the finasteride.
 

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side effects on the internet are blown out of proportion. cmon people here believe earth is flat... there's literally no complaining about dutasteride on comparison and that's a way stronger drug than finasteride is. look at askapatient.com nobody's complaining about finasteride, just propecia (merck, big pharma that owned the brand till it went generic 5-10 years ago), cause that's where the money in lawsuits are, american complain culture... than you look at people complaining about libido and they're all like 70+ rofl

believing that everyone that takes finasteride gets chemically castrated, drug that's been on a market for over 20 years is on par with anti-vaxers. trans folk take spironolactone, estrogen etc. and still have functioning d**s.

if you do want to stay on the safest side microdose, some people take 0.25 of a tablet with same results.

if you really dont want to risk being in that few percent that complain
only option is minoxidil and dermarolling (might be quicker for regrowth) but doesn't tackle the cause of hairloss, any other treatments are snake oil though and would only work if your hairloss is not really genetic induced but rather stress or vitamin mineral deficencies.

ru58841 might be another option if you can get your hands on it. some people respond to it very well. ru binds to receptors in your hair follicles, stopping dht from doing that, but it's not an easily available treatment so it will cost more (make sure it's not illegal in your country).

finasteride lowers your dht levels, depending on how sensitive your follicles are/agressive hairloss(when it started) it will either stop, slow down, or reverse some of balding.

minoxidil will improve blood/nutrient circulation to your folllicles, with same effects (possible halt, slow down, regrowth). but its really like steroids to your hair follicles without tackling main cause - dht.

dermarolling/wounding - induces body's naturural response to heal the wounded area, sending growth hormones to the area thus aiding the follicles.

sorry, but these are your best options. for a lot of people they work totally fine for decade+.
hair transplants don't tackle the cause of hairloss. and any surgeon that says you're ok with not taking finasteride just wants you back in next 2+ years for an expensive touch up.
 

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Hi guys! I’m very new here and I’d love your advice..
I’ve always had quite a lot of matted/surfer kind of hair! These photos perhaps make it look worse than it is but my hairline is becoming thinner and uneven. I’m in a band and I suppose I’m a bit precious about keeping my Barnet! How bad do you think my situation is and what are my options.
Thanks for your help guys!
good news : you have good hair for your age
bad news : you have a lot of hair thinning

if the thinning just started now, I think you should look for options to maintain your hair... if it has been like that for years then you are good
 

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side effects on the internet are blown out of proportion. cmon people here believe earth is flat... there's literally no complaining about dutasteride on comparison and that's a way stronger drug than finasteride is. look at askapatient.com nobody's complaining about finasteride, just propecia (merck, big pharma that owned the brand till it went generic 5-10 years ago), cause that's where the money in lawsuits are, american complain culture... than you look at people complaining about libido and they're all like 70+ rofl

believing that everyone that takes finasteride gets chemically castrated, drug that's been on a market for over 20 years is on par with anti-vaxers. trans folk take spironolactone, estrogen etc. and still have functioning d**s.

if you do want to stay on the safest side microdose, some people take 0.25 of a tablet with same results.

if you really dont want to risk being in that few percent that complain
only option is minoxidil and dermarolling (might be quicker for regrowth) but doesn't tackle the cause of hairloss, any other treatments are snake oil though and would only work if your hairloss is not really genetic induced but rather stress or vitamin mineral deficencies.

ru58841 might be another option if you can get your hands on it. some people respond to it very well. ru binds to receptors in your hair follicles, stopping dht from doing that, but it's not an easily available treatment so it will cost more (make sure it's not illegal in your country).

finasteride lowers your dht levels, depending on how sensitive your follicles are/agressive hairloss(when it started) it will either stop, slow down, or reverse some of balding.

minoxidil will improve blood/nutrient circulation to your folllicles, with same effects (possible halt, slow down, regrowth). but its really like steroids to your hair follicles without tackling main cause - dht.

dermarolling/wounding - induces body's naturural response to heal the wounded area, sending growth hormones to the area thus aiding the follicles.

sorry, but these are your best options. for a lot of people they work totally fine for decade+.
hair transplants don't tackle the cause of hairloss. and any surgeon that says you're ok with not taking finasteride just wants you back in next 2+ years for an expensive touch up.

Thanks very much. Nicely written and you make some good points. Forgive my lack of knowledge, but dies finasteride lower the level of a certain chemical, to the same level of someone who doesn’t suffer from baldness?
good news : you have good hair for your age
bad news : you have a lot of hair thinning

if the thinning just started now, I think you should look for options to maintain your hair... if it has been like that for years then you are good

Yes, it seems I am thinning. I’m not sure at what rate but it’s deffo happening. Could you perhaps point out the key areas where you see thinning? I look at it on a more basic level and just see a receding hairline! Perhaps you could help me understand what’s happening a little more?
Cheers
 

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Thanks very much. Nicely written and you make some good points. Forgive my lack of knowledge, but dies finasteride lower the level of a certain chemical, to the same level of someone who doesn’t suffer from baldness
No, people who don’t suffer from baldness still have the same levels, it’s just that their receptors aren’t as sensitive to it so they don’t start balding.
 

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Hi lads!
Just letting you know,I started finasteride 2.5 months ago.. did 0.5mg for 1.5 months then moved to proper dose. No changes yet (I don’t think!) but we will see.
Anybody care to have a guess as to whether I’m likely to thicken my receding hairline again?!

This pic is 2.5 months on from the ones at the top of this post...
 

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