Whats next after propecia fails?

[CCS]

felk,

abdominal pains are not a finasteride side effect. Where did you get yours? i wonder if the drug was tainted. you plop down $90 for some real proscar if you can afford it, and see if it gives you the pains. finasteride can cause nipple pain, but not chest pain. how long do you have to take it get sides? if you can tell in a week or so, i'll mail you two of my tablets, which I get from my university pharmacy with a prescription. I'm really curious about this.

 

[Felk]

Elitenet pharmacy. It looked pretty damn real to me.

I dunno. I stopped proxiphen for 5 days, in case it was the minoxidil, pain persisted.

I stopped finasteride, pain lessened instantly.

I started finasteride and minoxidil, and gradually pain/discomfort returned.

I dropped finasteride (a week ago or so) and its pretty much gone. Im still burping more, and occasionally get the pain, so im not 100% sure anymore. However both times ive started finasteride again, it's come back, and ceasing proxiphen (dr lee says all systematic effects are gone in 3 days) did nothing, so i just dont know.

 

[powersam]

is that the only place you've ever bought finasteride from?

i've never heard of anyone reporting that before but theres always a first. could mean you'd be a good lab rat for our topical finasteride experiments

 

[Felk]

is that the only place you've ever bought finasteride from?

i've never heard of anyone reporting that before but theres always a first. could mean you'd be a good lab rat for our topical finasteride experiments

It is the only place.

But yeah, if i manage to find out beyond doubt that finasteride is causing this side effect, i'm happy to be a lab rat It'll be great, as I'll know quickly as soon as it's absorbed systematically.

 

[powersam]

sweeet.

i'd suggest try some proscar from qhi or somewhere else where you know it will be legit. to make sure its finasteride rather than some other reason.

 

[Felk]

I'll do that, PowerSam.

Back to the original topic. This is an important one i believe, as a regimen without finasteride is a tough one, especially if you are young with aggressive hair loss.

I'm wondering if we could get a list together of the people who have maintained their hair without finasteride. I know of gourmetstylewellness.com's famous revivogen/spironolactone combo which came through for him, but that's about it.

Old Baldy's kitchen sink regimen and Gardener's regimen are two others, but they both use minoxidil, and that's a different story. I believe once you have halted your hairloss with something else (ie finasteride or dutasteride, usually), you can add minoxidil if you want that offset of regrowth. But halting hairloss in the first place... that's the tough bit!

This being said I'm probably too impatient to wait until i know my topicals are working before adding minoxidil... I will probably just use 3 or so things against DHT and hope one of them works...

I want to stop this thinning ASAP, and if minoxidil helps.... too tempting...

 

[Guest]

If Propecia fails,

try switching to dutasteride, the king of 5AR inhibitors.

 

[Fallout Boy]

thinking about adding minoxidil to my regimen like i have been thinking about for a while now...just never really took the plunge. I think Finasteride probably has slowed down my loss but still im not even sure of that.

I've also thought about Dutasteride but i'm worried about the inhibiting for the 5AR found in the brain. Kind of scares me as im still pretty young. Maybe if my hair starts going to sh*t i'll hop on dutasteride but i guess i still need to do more research on it.

 

[Guest]

eh im 22 and on it. tainted meat and aplunk are young too and they're both on it. it's probably safer to get on it when you're young.

 

[Rage]

If propecia is not working, that means two things:

Your follicles are sensitive even to the reduced DHT levels, in which case you should use topical spironolactone as well.

And

The hair loss process has already been kicked off by DHT, and now no longer needs DHT to progress. In this case you need copper peptides and and minoxidil and arginine and other stuff to fight the other aspects of the hair loss process. Even getting castrated won't stop your hairloss.

You forgot the third angle: that is one of the few who has a diffeent form of 5ar that finasteride cannot bind. Dusteride may be the key in that case..