Whats the point??

HeartBreakKid

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What is the point of living a dreadful existence of waking up everyday and and taking your "medication" for your "disease" which some of you like to call it when you can just accept yourself for who you are. Do you guys really care so much about what people think about you? If you would rather waste big bucks for the rest of your life and possibly a permanent limp dick then go ahead and take propecia and rogaine or whatever. You are just making life harder on yourself. I know it sucks to be going bald at such a young age (I myself am a bald chrome dome. Began to lose my hair at 13 and am 17 now.) cause people make fun of you and sh*t. But I will say again you cannot show weakness cause thats what people with low self-esteem prey on. I heard some of you guys being made fun of by dorks and comp geeks. Thats just sad. You know your better than that. Your really going let someone walk all over you? You guys are just going to have to get over the "why is it happening to me" syndrome and get on with your life before you waste it. I read some people being depressed about their hairloss for 5 years. Doing nothing, not enjoying life for 5 years because they were losing their hair. Thats just a waste of life. Rape and molestation victims move on with their life and some of you guys just whine and cry. Get over it. I know not all of you are like this but some of you are. I'm telling you this because every life counts man. You live only once so dont waste it.
 

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Its not a big deal to accept but with the convenience of Propecia and Minoxdil why not at least try to keep it. I am sure we would all have to accept it if there were not treatments.
 

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redbone said:
Its not a big deal to accept but with the convenience of Propecia and Minoxdil why not at least try to keep it. I am sure we would all have to accept it if there were not treatments.

Definitely disagree. If it were easy to accept, none of you would be here.
I'm with the poster. Propecia is a temporary solution to a permanent problem. Trading one evil for the next. You will f*** up your hormones eventually. Sorry, had to say it


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Arnold Swartzenegger did more hormone altering drugs than anyone and he is doing fine now and instead of 5yrs he did it for 40 years. Whats your point dude?
 

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Someone is projecting issues.

First off, heartbreak, learn the difference between "your" and "you're". I know they sound the same, but they mean different things. Kinda like cents and sense.

So why would we do this. Well, we care about how we look. Most people do. Most people want to look good. So this isnt a major health issue, sure, its more of a cosmetic matter (except when it becomes a major source of depression and anxiety thanks to social stigma). So we do what it takes to look as good as we can, and some of us are managing a pretty good job of it, with nothing dreadfull about it.
 

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flux said:
Someone is projecting issues.

First off, heartbreak, learn the difference between "your" and "you're". I know they sound the same, but they mean different things. Kinda like cents and sense.

So why would we do this. Well, we care about how we look. Most people do. Most people want to look good. So this isnt a major health issue, sure, its more of a cosmetic matter (except when it becomes a major source of depression and anxiety thanks to social stigma). So we do what it takes to look as good as we can, and some of us are managing a pretty good job of it, with nothing dreadfull about it.

you're my boy flux, you're my boy ;)
 
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Im glad you have such a good attitude on your hairloss. I wish I could have your attitude. You are 100 percent right. My hairloss bothers me but I just wear a hat and move on with life. But you have to admit hairloss sucks for everyone.

I probley will never go completly bald looking at my gene pool. My dad and grandpas starting loosing at 17 and they died over 80 with NW3's. It's just not knowing whats gunna happen scares you.

My uncle had a full head of THICK GREAT hair at like 25 but went bald over night and is a NW7 with no hair. It's cause of him im scared about hairloss. I just hope i didnt get his gene. I dont think I did.

Everyday I go to my sixth peroid class and I see my completely bald teacher and it just looks not good on him. I just think to myself everyday (oh gosh i hope that wont happen to me). It just sucks not knowing how your hair is gunna turn out. You just gotta hope for the best and move on with life.

It just sucks cause I would look horrible being bald. Thats why is stressful. If i was black I would just shave my head and move on with life and I would look cool. But im white and I cannot do that. If i did I would look like a cancer patient.
 

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redbone said:
Arnold Swartzenegger did more hormone altering drugs than anyone and he is doing fine now and instead of 5yrs he did it for 40 years. Whats your point dude?

I doubt Arnold will see his 65th birthday, he isn't that healthy either, with triple bypass surgery done when he was around 50. If Arnold didn't continue to take hormones he'd be as weak as a Tea right now. I'm surprized his hair didn't fall out though. I'm not saying Finasteride will cause as much harm because I'm taking the stuff myself, but I wouldn't do hormones like Arnie does. I wonder if DHT levels will stay permantly surpressed if Finasteride is taken for long enough
 
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flux said:
Someone is projecting issues.

First off, heartbreak, learn the difference between "your" and "you're". I know they sound the same, but they mean different things. Kinda like cents and sense.

So why would we do this. Well, we care about how we look. Most people do. Most people want to look good. So this isnt a major health issue, sure, its more of a cosmetic matter (except when it becomes a major source of depression and anxiety thanks to social stigma). So we do what it takes to look as good as we can, and some of us are managing a pretty good job of it, with nothing dreadfull about it.

Well said!
 

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Heartbreak!

As the people who want to have big muscles go to and pay for fit centrum people who are loosing their hair and dont want to be bald take big 3 treatment. I find nothin so dramatic on it.

I dont want to be bald. There is treatment which helps. I got money for it. I dont find it dificult to apply all that sh*t. So what. I will try and see. If dont see sufficient result I will shave my head with the feeling that I have made my best to stop male pattern baldness.

Peace with ya man!
 

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Someone is projecting issues.
Everyone has issues. Some people have issues over insignificant things and those are the people I'm trying to help.

First off, heartbreak, learn the difference between "your" and "you're". I know they sound the same, but they mean different things. Kinda like cents and sense.

Thank you for educating me on proper grammar usage. I will use this knowledge to help better myself. Oh yeah it's isn't not isnt. And this is how you spell dreadful not dreadfull.

So why would we do this. Well, we care about how we look. Most people do. Most people want to look good. So this isnt a major health issue, sure, its more of a cosmetic matter (except when it becomes a major source of depression and anxiety thanks to social stigma). So we do what it takes to look as good as we can, and some of us are managing a pretty good job of it, with nothing dreadfull about it.

Of course we all care about how we look. I care about the way I look. I shower everyday, shave, and put on nice clothes that is acceptable and "fashionable" for my environment which is college. I understand that losing your hair sucks. I don't disagree but life goes on. If you choose to live the rest of your life depressed and or angry that is your fault. You guys are still healthy human beings. You can run, walk, f***, and still accomplish your goals in life. You put that at risk by taking these drugs for something we all (society)should accept until there is a 100% safe cure. We do not know what these drugs will do to us in the future. I know of no studies done showing long term effects of propecia. I'm glad that you have no problem with popping pills and chemicals into your body for the rest of your life, but a lot of people don't like that. And we shouldn't have to. Never let anyone make you feel ashamed of your hair loss. It's something you can't help and is NATURAL. I see that you're from Silicon Valley, so that means you're probably loaded with cash. Maybe your money can buy your happiness man.... I doubt it. And guys don't gang up on me. I'm not trying to fight you guys or anything like that. I'm just like you. I'm trying to help people live and move on with their lives. If there is anything positive that I got from losing my hair early is that I know what really matters in life. Most People don't figure this out so early as I did.
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Treat male pattern baldness or not. It is all about choices. Some do, some don't.

Let the good times roll!
 

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HeartBreakKid said:
You guys are still healthy human beings. You can run, walk, f***, and still accomplish your goals in life. You put that at risk by taking these drugs for something we all (society)should accept until there is a 100% safe cure. We do not know what these drugs will do to us in the future. I know of no studies done showing long term effects of propecia. I'm glad that you have no problem with popping pills and chemicals into your body for the rest of your life, but a lot of people don't like that.

What if you were suffering from severe cystic acne? Hey, you're still a healthy human being that can run, walk, f*** and accomplish all your goals. But I bet it would certainly hamper your ability to interact socially, date girls, and even your professional life. So would you be willing to pop antibiotics or accutane (the latter carrying potential significant side-affects) to clear your skin or just live with it, hope it doesn't scar your face too much and that it will eventually go away?

btw - Propecia has only been around since 1997, but proscar (5mg finasteride) has been around for 20+ years.
 

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Don't be so cynical about life man. Male Pattern Baldness and severe cystic acne are 2 completely different things. Be glad you don't have the the latter because it is very painful physically. I have nothing against people taking medication for any reason. How would baldness hamper my ability to interact socially, date girls, and even my professional life? Alot of it is in your head. You are your own worst enemy. Live your life all gloom and doom if you want but that's your choice.
 
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Rape and molestation victims move on with their life and some of you guys just whine and cry. Get over it.

Don't be so cynical about life man. Male Pattern Baldness and Rape and molestation are 2 completely different things.

How would baldness hamper my ability to interact socially

I take it this is a rhetorical question?


Live your life all gloom and doom if you want but that's your choice.

Don't be so cynical about life man.

Your original 'what's the point' post is almost a definition of cynicism, a resignation to the inevitability of hair loss, a mistrust of the medicines that
improve many peoples situation and restore their self-confidence.

If you have got over your hairloss what are you doing on these forums, are you here to simply enlighten?

Ty
 

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If people want to f*** with their horomones let them, it's the same thing with vegetarians and some of the people that belong to PETA. We are not trying to force pills down your throat or shove hamburger in your mouth so no need in telling us how we might be f*****g up, we know already.
 

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HeartBreakKid

Rape and molestation victims move on with their life and some of you guys just whine and cry. Get over it.

Don't be so cynical about life man. Male Pattern Baldness and Rape and molestation are 2 completely different things.

Yes male pattern baldness and rape and molestation are 2 different things. One ruins your life and the other makes the hairs from your head fall out. Whats your point? I simply wanted to get across that others with more severe problems can overcome them yet some people on this board have posted that they have been depressed for 5 years straight because of their hair loss. Not able to live life to the fullest. You live only once so don't waste it no matter what. That my friend is a waste of life and I feel sorry that noone in that man's family has set him straight. There's more to life then just feeling sorry about yourself. My point with that others can move on with tragedy yet some people on this board can't get over something so trivial as losing their hair.

How would baldness hamper my ability to interact socially

I take it this is a rhetorical question?

Please what's the worst that could happen? I'm not going to be your friend anymore because your bald. Bye? The worst thing that could happen and did happen to me was I lost my confidence for a while.

Live your life all gloom and doom if you want but that's your choice.

Don't be so cynical about life man.

Your original 'what's the point' post is almost a definition of cynicism, a resignation to the inevitability of hair loss, a mistrust of the medicines that
improve many peoples situation and restore their self-confidence.

I disagree because there are facts to back up the serious side effects. The bad in this case outweighs the good by alot. Just listen to all the people who post that they can't get their dick up. I would rather be able to bone chicks whenever I want to then to have a full head of hair.
I accepted my hairloss as a part of life. And if you get your confidence from what you look like that can't be real. It's about who you are not how hot you are or what not. Hair loss can't be stopped but only delayed.

If you have got over your hairloss what are you doing on these forums, are you here to simply enlighten?

Is that wrong man? Trying to help other people overcome their own fears of becoming bald? Is this board not meant to discuss hairloss and support each other. I don't have anything against anyone on this board taking meds but I am trying to say they shouldn't have to take medication which can do more harm than good to feel good about themselves.
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HeartBreak -

All arguments aside, you need to figure out how to use the quoting properly on these discussions forums. It's really stealing the thunder in your posts. :pc:

(there's a 'preview' feature that lets you view your messages before submitting)
 

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HeartBreakKid said:
How would baldness hamper my ability to interact socially, date girls, and even my professional life?

Socially and professionally, not too much as long as you don't let it affect self-confidence. Dating - I guess it would depend on the girl and how good you look with a shaved head. Like it or not we live in a superficial society and looks matter. Self-confidence goes a long way, but the taller, non-balding, built, good looking guys go further in general than their opposites.

I'm here because I know I'd look better with hair on my head than not, and male pattern baldness is not something I am willing to deal with right now. If you're able to accept it like a man, then I applaud you. But that ain't me just yet.
 
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