WHO THE F*CK am I going to be?

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bob marley- I have some of the same fears as you but one thing I will tell you from personal experience is male pattern baldness is very unpredicable. Read my post in "my story" section. I am 39 and mine started at 17 and has been very very very slow until about 2.5 years ago (ironically about 3 years after I started on minoxidil). You may be like me and get 20 years or so before it kicks in and by then I am sure treatments should be even better. Don't thrown the towel just yet-wait and see what happens as you are too young to give up so soon.

Good luck to ya....
 
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See that's the big conundrum. Say I was a guy like you that would recede to a nw2(which I'm at)and go no further until late 30's. But right now I'm on propecia thinking that it's the drug working, when it's really my genetics. Now I take the drug and spend all that money for 15 or so years for nothing, because when my genes kick in again I get f*cked.

It's a weird thing and I now only recently I am re-thinking whether my hairloss would have stabilized without propecia this last year. MY da even said once that I shouyld not have to worry about hairloss until mid-30's because that's when his kicked inot full gear.

F*CK F*CK F*CK. this pisses me off
 

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If that's what you are worried about then that's pretty easy to solve :
If you think your male pattern baldness may be in a "sleeping" stage so to speak, just slowly taper off treatment . By slow I mean like a 3 month period so it's not a shock to your system. When you are complety off, within about 4 months you should know if you need it or not. When I ran out it was right about that time that I could see it coming back and had sheding that would not stop...right now i am crossing my fingers still as sheding has slowed but still not stopped.

Are you pretty sure you got it from your Dad? From what I have read, you need to match both the pattern and timeline, plus relatives will usually freely make comments on this :) Back when I was about your age they mentioned my hairline looked idential to both my uncle and grandfather before they went bald. Recently and just out of the blue- my uncle's oldest (40)daughter says she is suprised it has not started happening to me yet (of course it has but thanks to propecia and a good comback she could not tell). If you are getting comments like this and it sounds like your dad thinks you are the same, maybe you can hold off a few years and save your money . When it kicks in, you will know for sure I promise you. I'll try to dig up my pictures from the summer of 2001 when mine kicked in and there was no doubt in my mind that something was drastically going on.
 

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99% is in our self confidence. And I know this for sure cause I have experienced it my self.
Currently I'm going to college in the USA, but am originally from Yugoslavia. Back home I always had tons of girlfriends and my first two years in the USA. Then I decided to shave my head because I started to recede big time. My self confidence was totally ruined and I stopped going out.
I was wondering how will it be when I go back home. But when I went home over the summer, things didn’t change at all. I had as many girls as I did before I shaved my head, and all the girls I knew from before didn’t mind my new looks.
This led me to conclusion that girls really don’t care that much about your hair.
If you know how to talk and act in front of the girl you will always get one, with or without your hair.
Well unless you have really ugly head shape :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Stingray said:
Yes, I would date a woman who is balding. Why wouldn't I? Hair is only one feature among many.

I always found Sinead O'Connor very attractive, especially with the bald noggin. 8)
 

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I hope to God that by the time I am 30 I will either be over my hair loss or hair cloning will be available and I will once again have a full head of hair.

It sucks, I mean it really, truly, 100% sucks for people who have male pattern baldness, especially people like myself where the sh*t hit the fan early in life. I would love to think that it does not bother me at all and I am living my life the same way I was before, but the sad truth is it has affected the way I live, and it sucks. I use to love being the center of attention and would love going out and getting hammered with my friends and just have fun. Anymore I still go out and get hammered with my friends, but I really don't like to draw attention to myself. I can relate to being vain because I have been that way ever since I was in middle school. I have always taken pride in the way I look and I would always spend the extra time to make sure I looked good. Hell, I would not even walk outside to get the morning paper until after I took a shower and got dressed because you never know who you would run into. I also would take a shower and get cleaned up before I would head down to the gym to workout because I am that damn vain.

What sucks the most about male pattern baldness is that it is beyond your control and the treatments are just that. I doubt there are many people that are 100% happy with the results they get from the treatments available today, because people want a full head of hair. What really sucks is that the treatments did too little to make a difference, and in my case the treatments did nothing at all. So I just sit back and become a little more bitter everyday about going bald young and try to wait patiently for a cure as I see my youth fall out strand by strand. I just hope that one day soon I can fix this problem and repress all the memories and feelings associated with going bald.
 

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i hear ya im young too very young 19,and i cant even imagin being bald my hair means so much to me its a part of me and who i am.It sucks in todays world how things are based on a visual aspect now a days everythign must look beautiful but me being bald wouldnt be that.although as time is going on im startin to not give a sh*t to be honest.i look at heath ledger,vin deisel,CK models and even bruce willis and thats givin me hope women find them good lookin which is all i care about....women and what they think.if i have to shave my head so be it ill have to live with it.Take cancer pateints that are about to die for example they know they will die soon and sh*t knows they dont want that to happen but they except it because its there only option i think thats true with hairloss i tthink once you are bald you except it and dont really mind it anymore.thats just my opinion.
 
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Guy38,

I think easier said than done. Reason being is that balding is a very tricky thing and once propecia is out of your system it will take a while for it to buld up again. It's not like switching on and off a light. Therefore 4 months off could really be like 6-8 months of DHT rraping my poor little follicles. A lot of recession(my biggest fear) could happen during this time.

Also tapering off may be dangerous, because at no one knows for sure at what level your body stops metabolizing propecia. While tapering you may as well be be completely done with it because .2 may not be doing anything. Although one could alternate days at 1mg for while and then stop.

Thge thig is about timelines and your situation is quite weird. I still think my dads hairloss always progressed, buit it's when the crown started going that he considered it reall hairloss, because most guy at 35 at least recede a little. Plus it one can lose about 50% density without even noticeing it, so who knows if my crown is already starting to go. Not to mention that you may have never acutally "rested" at all, but only slowly progressed until you got over that 50% hump and began to notice. It's a common mistake, for people to think that they caught their hairloss early, when really they have already lost half there density.
 

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Not to mention that you may have never acutally "rested" at all, but only slowly progressed until you got over that 50% hump and began to notice. It's a common mistake, for people to think that they caught their hairloss early, when really they have already lost half there density.

Thats what happened to me. I'm almost 27,first noticed it two years ago. As I look at pictures of myself I've pin pointed that my hairloss actually started around 22. I just never cared or took any pride in my hair. Never worried about baldness , because my dad has plenty of hair as well as my grand dad. I never use to give my hair a second thought, but now it's going to sh*t, and it's all I think about. I think I would still be a decent looking guy bald, but I'm still going to fight all the way to the last one falls out.
 

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I get what you are saying blue because I am a lot less pissed off about my hair loss now than I was when my hair first started falling out. After I found out I had male pattern baldness I felt like grabbing a baseball bat and beating the hell out of everything in sight, of course I didn't though. I am really glad that no stranger pointed out to me that I was going bald in a mocking kind of way, I probably would of reacted like a psycho. Anymore it does not really bother me on the surface, but deep down somewhere it is pissing the hell out of me.
 

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bob marley said:
Guy38,

I think easier said than done. Reason being is that balding is a very tricky thing and once propecia is out of your system it will take a while for it to buld up again. It's not like switching on and off a light. Therefore 4 months off could really be like 6-8 months of DHT rraping my poor little follicles. A lot of recession(my biggest fear) could happen during this time.

Well of course there is risk if you stop. Heck I stopped because I ran out and it took the supplier over a month to restock and get my order to me.
And I am still sheading so I'll let you know if it ever stops or if I am screwed. But if want to see if you really need treatment you just got to take that risk.



Also tapering off may be dangerous, because at no one knows for sure at what level your body stops metabolizing propecia. While tapering you may as well be be completely done with it because .2 may not be doing anything. Although one could alternate days at 1mg for while and then stop.


When I was running out I went from every day to every other day to about every 3rd day and got down to once a week. The day I took my last dose they finally got my order to me. When I start running out again I am going to ask you guys who is cheap/quick so I don't go through that again!

Thge thig is about timelines and your situation is quite weird. I still think my dads hairloss always progressed, buit it's when the crown started going that he considered it reall hairloss, because most guy at 35 at least recede a little. Plus it one can lose about 50% density without even noticeing it, so who knows if my crown is already starting to go. Not to mention that you may have never acutally "rested" at all, but only slowly progressed until you got over that 50% hump and began to notice. It's a common mistake, for people to think that they caught their hairloss early, when really they have already lost half there density.

I agree my male pattern baldness timing is weird. I have yet to find anyone that has had it this slow and stop and start like that. My grandfather was totally bald from the time I knew him and I had always figured he went nw7 early on. But then I saw some pictures of him when he was about 50 or so. He was pretty bald in the back by then but his hairline looked very much like mine has looked for the past 10 years or so. So I suspect he had this weird slow balding too, along with me and his son (my uncle)And you are right that it could have just been so slow I could not see it. But I had a steady girlfriend in my late 20's early 30's and pretty sure she would have said something as she teased a mutual friend when he started getting a spot in the back. How do I post pictures here? Maybe I can show you what I mean about the rapid onset at 36. Oh and I agree with your dad. I did not consider myself balding until about 36. In retrospect recession is a minor problem compared to the back. At least to me it is.

Regards....
 

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Personallt I am far more worried about recession than anything else. If I only had crown loss I would pull the trigger on a hair transplant so fast, it would not even be funny. The hairline is so hard to create. At least with a hairline your face remains looking the same, instead of having a massive forehead, which just f*cks everthing up completely.

Btw. Recently I have dropped down to .5mg of propecia(just bite it right in half) and have not seen any difference in regrowth/loss at all. Its been about a 3 months now and it is working out great on the pocket and my hairline is staying strong
 

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Some people just get a hair transplant to keep the front hairline intact and throw a piece up on the top. Most people really don't see the top of your head anyways and with a good rug it would be nearly impossible to pick out.
 

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LOL well f*** all you guys..... if this is a sympathy contest then I am the number 1 winner of this website because I started going bald at age 13. Hehe it was fun. Actually it was complete bullshit. I hated getting made fun of. I hated it when the teacher made fun of me. I hated the fact that girls would laugh at me and make jokes about who would date me as if I couldn't hear them. Well f*** them.
 

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Bob_Marley said:
Personallt I am far more worried about recession than anything else. If I only had crown loss I would pull the trigger on a hair transplant so fast, it would not even be funny. The hairline is so hard to create. At least with a hairline your face remains looking the same, instead of having a massive forehead, which just f*cks everthing up completely.

Btw. Recently I have dropped down to .5mg of propecia(just bite it right in half) and have not seen any difference in regrowth/loss at all. Its been about a 3 months now and it is working out great on the pocket and my hairline is staying strong

Bob,
I have heard that some can get by on .5mg but I would wait another 3 months or so before I would say you are one of them. I guess I have been more concerned with crown/vertex because it has been a bigger problem for me as it happend much quicker than recessen and has been harder to stop.
 

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HeartBreakKid said:
LOL well f*** all you guys..... if this is a sympathy contest then I am the number 1 winner of this website because I started going bald at age 13. Hehe it was fun. Actually it was complete bullshit. I hated getting made fun of. I hated it when the teacher made fun of me. I hated the fact that girls would laugh at me and make jokes about who would date me as if I couldn't hear them. Well f*** them.

I can't belive a teacher would say something directly at you. Are you sure about that. Our teacher mentioned that genetics would eventually cause most of the guys in the class to bald but did not direct it at anyone person.
Boy did that comment open up a can a worms.....
 

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Are you sure you started at 13?? i think you have to experience puberty before you can start to bald.

In my experience teachers are the worst. The only two people to ever point out my hair loss have been teachers but both have done it facetiously with noone else around. If a teacher did it in front of a class i'd go nuts.
 

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I had a teacher than made fun of a kid because he was boarderline psycho. It was so funny one day the psycho gave a strange answer to a question the teacher asked because was not paying attention. So most of the class laughed a little bit and the kid just went off. He told one of the kids that was laughing to shut the hell up, and the kid told him to calm down the the guy just went bonkers. He stood up in the middle of class and and screamed at the kid while walking towards him to shut up. The teacher then tells the kid to go outside and cool off, but the kid tells the teacher to either "f*** off," or "Shut the f*** up!" The teacher says tells the kid to get out of her class and go down to the office, so he goes running out of the room and slams the door, so much that it slams shut then bounces back open then shut again. What was really funny is the fact you could here him screaming down the hall saying "I didn't do anything." Let me tell you we all had a good laugh about that one once things calmed down.
 

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13, that's F*cking crazy dude. I was such a little bad *** when I was a teenager, I would hate to see how F*cked up I would have been if I started to lose my hair that early. Jail 100% Right now hairloss makes me want to hurt things and people, never mind at our rebellious stage.
I feel for you man, but at least you get used to it faster.


Guy38

If the studies are correct(that .5 reduces just as much DHT as 1mg) and my body metobolizes the .5 then I would say that .5 is doing fine for me at this point already. But I sure as hell am keeping a close eye for any changes. I think i"m actually going to take 1mg at elast once or twice a week for safety sake.

Yeah I suppose when my crown starts going it's going to freak me out, but I still hat the big forehead thing. It just completely changs one appearence.
 
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