Who Would Help Fund A Kerastem Therapy?

[newplayer]

I'm willing to do the procedure in Serbian clinic, if some of you guys can chip in, and IF they are indeed offering Kerastem (?).
I'm a long time poster at BTT, and can prove it, but I migrated here for the freedom from censorship etc.

I'm diffuse NW3.

 

[JustAnotherNoob]

I just got this response from BelPrime when asking if they use the PUREGRAFT method of fat filtration

"

PURE GRAFT method is the only method for fat tissue wash we are using and we are doing the whole procedure as Kerastem outlined.
We explained tho whole procedure for this in our first e-mail but, if you need more details, we would be happy to answer.
Thank you.


Regards,


BelPrime Clinic Team"

 

[Bad_Wolve]

I just got this response from BelPrime when asking if they use the PUREGRAFT method of fat filtration

"

PURE GRAFT method is the only method for fat tissue wash we are using and we are doing the whole procedure as Kerastem outlined.
We explained tho whole procedure for this in our first e-mail but, if you need more details, we would be happy to answer.
Thank you.


Regards,


BelPrime Clinic Team"

don´t know what to think about this serbian clinic. we should fund someone who is going to do it in switzerland...

 

[JustAnotherNoob]

don´t know what to think about this serbian clinic. we should fund someone who is going to do it in switzerland...

Considering the second lead doctor on the Kerastem clinical trials is the one who performs this in Serbia, I think we'd be ok with doing it there. Plus, it's only 4500 euros.

 

[nameless]

Considering the second lead doctor on the Kerastem clinical trials is the one who performs this in Serbia, I think we'd be ok with doing it there. Plus, it's only 4500 euros.

Do they speak English in Serbia?

 

[newplayer]

Do they speak English in Serbia?

yes, most of the people does, it's not the official language of course.
As I said - I could do it if you guys could "crowdfund" me.

 

[Bad_Wolve]

10 questions are out to the swiss kerastem guy. will inform you when i got the answers!

 

[GiveMeAccessToMyAccount]

Uh.... 13k seems like a lot of money to raise. Took quite a bit of effort to get it up to 3.5k CAD just to send me to Abilene. I think a better approach would be to get in touch with Kerastem and ask for just ONE procedure to be done pro-bono and have that person be documented for the next some 6, 12 and 18 months. Don't know if they'd be up for it, but it'd be GREAT PR for them.

That's good idea, and if they're not up for it, I guess that could tell us a lot about the procedure anyway: That they're not confident enough, meaning it sucks and is not worth the money or time.

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No, because it's all a hassle... takes time and commitment just to save something as trivial as hair but at the same time leading to something so incredibly socially despised as baldness.

I'm just fed up with all this crap; the red tape set against researchers, the restrictions by the FDA, the lack of funding from investors, the hatred towards us from society, the eons of clinical trials, the disrespect from pseudo spokespeople of the hair loss community like Spencer Kobren, the censorship of forum members on BTT... the list goes on.

I guess I'm going through a phase of 'Fuck it, all this isn't worth it.'

No wonder I don't see you post there anymore(BTT). I don't know if you'd remember me, I post there too as PatientlyWaiting.

 

[Bad_Wolve]

yessssssss!!! cb goes into a dose ranging study. this is exactly what we need. if kerastem would do in reality like in the trials, we could maybe cure a nw3 in the short run!

 

[el_rizos]

You must read this new. David Luiz, player soccer from Brazil says he has found a cure for bald and it seems that is kerastem . Read the news

http://metro.co.uk/2015/12/14/forme...ms-to-have-found-a-cure-for-baldness-5564094/

 

[GiveMeAccessToMyAccount]

Guys...please stop with the word "cure" already. I beg you. Cure literally means to rid a disease or condition. If something does not get rid of Androgenetic Alopecia, it's not a cure. If you need to use something again and again to suppress the condition, and getting off of it will bring it back, that is not a cure.

 

[Bad_Wolve]

You must read this new. David Luiz, player soccer from Brazil says he has found a cure for bald and it seems that is kerastem . Read the news

http://metro.co.uk/2015/12/14/forme...ms-to-have-found-a-cure-for-baldness-5564094/

sounds like kerastem.

http://www.beIgraviacentre.com/blog/footballer-david-luiz-says-hes-found-miracle-hair-loss-cure/

 

[lynney45]

If this treatment has been available for 2 years why are people on the forum only getting excited about it and considering it now?

Also, how come its been released in Serbia etc and it has to go through FDA trials in the states. Has it already been through trials in Europe hence why it's on the market there?

 

[Seuxin]

yessssssss!!! cb goes into a dose ranging study. this is exactly what we need. if kerastem would do in reality like in the trials, we could maybe cure a nw3 in the short run!

Where did you saw this ? Problem is if they do another dose ranging it will need more time...

 

[nameless]

If this treatment has been available for 2 years why are people on the forum only getting excited about it and considering it now?

Also, how come its been released in Serbia etc and it has to go through FDA trials in the states. Has it already been through trials in Europe hence why it's on the market there?

I don't know and I really don't care much.

I do believe that Kerastem probably works because it SHOULD work. Yale university put out a study showing that the growth factors in adipose derived stem
cells and fat are all that is needed to regrow hair so if you put fat and adipose derived stem cells into the scalp that should grow hair and Kerastem does put fat
and adipose derived stem cells into the scalp.

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You must read this new. David Luiz, player soccer from Brazil says he has found a cure for bald and it seems that is kerastem . Read the news

http://metro.co.uk/2015/12/14/forme...ms-to-have-found-a-cure-for-baldness-5564094/

Yup probably Kerastem.

 

[Follisket]

Guys...please stop with the word "cure" already. I beg you. Cure literally means to rid a disease or condition. If something does not get rid of Androgenetic Alopecia, it's not a cure. If you need to use something again and again to suppress the condition, and getting off of it will bring it back, that is not a cure.

While I completely agree with you that in strictly technical terms nothing short of a one-off permanent fix is really a cure, I guess we're just so incredibly desperate for something that works that convenience is literally the last thing on our minds.

Even the most ridiculous, inconvenient and expensive daily ritual would be considered a cure if it regrew a full head of hair (possibly even less). - Because hair. Because non-existent hair loss treatments.

Also, even assuming Kerastem really works, this is what we expect to save us?

 

[Blackber]

While I completely agree with you that in strictly technical terms nothing short of a one-off permanent fix is really a cure, I guess we're just so incredibly desperate for something that works that convenience is literally the last thing on our minds.

Even the most ridiculous, inconvenient and expensive daily ritual would be considered a cure if it regrew a full head of hair (possibly even less). - Because hair. Because non-existent hair loss treatments.

Also, even assuming Kerastem really works, this is what we expect to save us?

I'm not expecting Kerastem to save me, be a cure or even be permanent, but if it could buy me a few years until something better possibly comes out (crossing my fingers for Replicel) then I would absolutely do it, but as mentioned before the fact that it's been out for 2 years and pictures are scarce and you dont really hear about it is worrisome. Regardless of that I would absolutely donate a substantial amount for someone in the community to get it done. Being that Hellouser has done so much for us I think if he's willing to do it he should absolutely be the one as a thank you for everything he's done.

 

[buckthorn]

While I completely agree with you that in strictly technical terms nothing short of a one-off permanent fix is really a cure, I guess we're just so incredibly desperate for something that works that convenience is literally the last thing on our minds.

Even the most ridiculous, inconvenient and expensive daily ritual would be considered a cure if it regrew a full head of hair (possibly even less). - Because hair. Because non-existent hair loss treatments.

Also, even assuming Kerastem really works, this is what we expect to save us?

These results, if legitimate, are impressive as hell and I don't know how anyone can deny that. He has hair growth in completely bald areas of his crown, which I assume has been bald for a while. The thickness and quality of his hair has drastically increased too.

 

[nameless]

These results, if legitimate, are impressive as hell and I don't know how anyone can deny that. He has hair growth in completely bald areas of his crown, which I assume has been bald for a while. The thickness and quality of his hair has drastically increased too.

And this is one treatment. You might be able to make it better with repeat treatments.


And I commend them on their picture taking. Histogen should take photography lessons from them.

 

[Hairloss23]

nameless I swear you jump from hair loss cure to hair loss cure almost as if the purpose of doing so was solely to start a new thread. Sammumed results were good so stop feeling like "Kerastem" is our sole hope. Your obviously a treatment man who would prefer to spend thousands of pounds, so how's about a few years from now you get your Kerastem, SM04554, Bimatropost and Histogen and then a nice Replicel to keep them all there. Sound good?