Who Would Help Fund A Kerastem Therapy?

[Bad_Wolve]

guys calm down. nobody knows if it is a scam or not. saying it is a scam before someone did the treatment leads to nothing at all. lets fund someone and we will see. this treatment is a big intervention in physiology of your body. you will have scars left. this scam would not just cost money like all the others, you would have two marks on your hips left for your entire life. what i want to say is, if this a wanton scam, we definetely see the fact that this would be a criminal assault. i really hope that there is some ethical thinking in those doctors brains left!

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

guys calm down. nobody knows if it is a scam or not. saying it is a scam before someone did the treatment leads to nothing at all. lets fund someone and we will see. this treatment is a big intervention in physiology of your body. you will have scars left. this scam would not just cost money like all the others, you would have two marks on your hips left for your entire life. what i want to say is, if this a wanton scam, we definetely see the fact that this would be a criminal assault. i really hope that there is some ethical thinking in those doctors brains left!

I'm sure they have waivers you have to sign.

 

[kiwipilu]

someone on a french forum has already had the treatment on 25th of january in Geneva. sounds legit. I will keep you updated as soon as he gives updates.

 

[Blackber]

someone on a french forum has already had the treatment on 25th of january in Geneva. sounds legit. I will keep you updated as soon as he gives updates.

I'm assuming this is the Kerastem licensed clinic in Geneva?

 

[newplayer]

ps - those lipo scars everyone's talking about - anybody got some pics of those?
On the internet I'm finding all kinds of shlt, from 1 mm to 5 cm monsters, so I dont know which is which.

I had a feeling from all the talk here that scars are meaningless. True or?

thanks

 

[lynney45]

ps - those lipo scars everyone's talking about - anybody got some pics of those?
On the internet I'm finding all kinds of shlt, from 1 mm to 5 cm monsters, so I dont know which is which.

I had a feeling from all the talk here that scars are meaningless. True or?

thanks

3-6mm

 

[kiwipilu]

I'm assuming this is the Kerastem licensed clinic in Geneva?

yep concept-clinic

 

[Mr White]

Will do. Would you guys like to put a list of things you would like me to ask them when I'm there?

Question 1: Does the treatment work for temple recession too, or just the crown area?

Question 2: What are the side effects?

 

[lynney45]

Question 1: Does the treatment work for temple recession too, or just the crown area?

Question 2: What are the side effects?

The swiss clinic told me it works all over the scalp, their reply is a few pages back in this thread

 

[lynney45]

I will ask them nonetheless.

Question 3: Can you ask them when the full results from the treatment are attained? The Swiss clinic stated that results would be seen around the 6 month mark. However i would like to know when the full results can be seen (i can predict it would be around the 1 year mark). It would be useful to ask them though.

 

[Blackber]

ps - those lipo scars everyone's talking about - anybody got some pics of those?
On the internet I'm finding all kinds of shlt, from 1 mm to 5 cm monsters, so I dont know which is which.

I had a feeling from all the talk here that scars are meaningless. True or?

thanks

I wouldn't give a damn about a scar if it let me maintain my hair lol.

One of the clinics responded and said the scare is 3-5mm and isn't noticeable.

 

[lynney45]

I wouldn't give a damn about a scar if it let me maintain my hair lol.

One of the clinics responded and said the scare is 3-5mm and isn't noticeable.

the paradox is that you can have PRP to treat scars

 

[hilbert]

Will do. Would you guys like to put a list of questions you would like me to ask them when I'm there?

Q: is the treatment good to help transplanted hair too? reason: we know some trasplanted hair thin over time because they run out of stem cells (due to skinny grafts and/or damage in the procedure)

and, Vincent, pls record in your mind the before/after pics!

 

[parisienne]

Just talked to them now. I should've recorded the call since they don't allow an interview, I've asked if I can record the consultation on my phone and then do the translation on to English but they said they have their privacy as well? Whatever that means, so I have to sharpen my memory tomorrow. I've made an appointment for tomorrow.

Why even asking (JK)

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

I've just talked with them now. I've asked if I can record the consultation on my phone and then do the translation on to English for the people of this forum but they've said they have their privacy as well? Whatever that means, so I have to sharpen my memory tomorrow. I've made an appointment for tomorrow.

This sounds shady as hell.

 

[Dench57]

She said that this treatment works for men with male pattern baldness and I've asked if one treatment is enough and she told me that with one treatment you are good to go for the next five years.

Bold statement. I assume they're claiming this for people on no other hairloss meds.

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

So they've said it's the Kerastem method, that they do the liposuction and use the steam cells in your body fat and insert them radially into your scalp, the procedure of inserting the steam cells is painless and you might or might not experience a minor swelling afterwards but nothing serious. The liposuction might hurt a little though, depending how fat yo u are. The more skinnier, the more it's gonna hurt, and the pain can last from couple of days to a week or so. She said that this treatment works for men with male pattern baldness and I've asked if one treatment is enough and she told me that with one treatment you are good to go for the next five years. I've asked if it's more effective on the crown or the hairline and she said it's evenly effective everywhere because they've add the steam cells radially everywhere.

My grievances with Kerastem stem from the fact that they seem so decentralized. None of the clinics sound like they agree with each other on the specifics of their treatment. One says there's a 90% success rate while the other says 70%. Compounding that is the fact that they conduct themselves in absolute secrecy. To be honest, if I were you, I would just wait for the results of Christopher1's treatment on hairsite. Plus are you sure this treatment even works for DUPA?

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

Yes, I've told her that I've tried almost everything and nothing gave the results and that I'm not on anything at the moment, she said that this is the best thing you can use from your own body.

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I don't have the money for this at the moment anyway, I'm saving for a hair transplant, I just want to see the if the photos are any good. If they are I will tell you so if anybody wants to be volunteer to try I will donate my part. And help him around the city like I've said.

Well thanks for taking one for the team. Your investigative efforts are much appreciated by us on the forum. We need to piece together the admittedly elusive details regarding this treatment. Every bit helps.

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

No worries, I might be willing to do it myself if you guys want to donate. If so, I'll need to start plumping up my ***, stuff myself with burgers and milkshakes. But then again, I don't like fat being sucked out of my *** if this is treatment is a blank. I would like to know more first.

Hey maybe if you have a hairy *** crack the treatment will work better.

 

[hairtoday_gonetomorrow]

Vinc, brate, can you please ask a couple of questions for me. Firstly, when they say 90% success rate what does that exactly mean; i.e. do all those have a great result? And for the remaining 10% does that mean no results or just very little? Additionally, when it comes to success does this work better on diffuse hair loss or does this not matter?

Secondly, regarding the cost, what would be the total if it didn't include the flights and hotel stay? I still have family who live in Belgrade so would just stay with them and can sort my own flight.

Hvala!!