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Oknow

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no one cares
you dont knowbwhatvits like

tbh

I might have hair, but I don’t exactly tick the other boxes

I’m the:

- wrong race
- not a muscle meat head
- shorter than 6ft
- living with parents

Based on those attributes alone, the incel community would tell me it’s over and I would not go on any dates

I should be an inspiration to you
 

fauxhawk

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that’s true
Like I said in my OP, I struggled so much in my 20s, difference now from then:

- a lot more stylish
- in better shape, used to very skinny and weedy
- professionally more successful
I'm 27 now but it feels like the world was so much different not even 10 years ago, women were praised/validated if they were talented or had a really good model/stunning figure - now they get praised for having 2 legs, 2 arms and all their teeth straight lmfao.

LIST goes on and on the cards just aren't stacked the same for the genders, but alot of what isn't fair is what builds you to be more attractive in the long run - like you stated, your health and finances etc
 

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tbh

I might have hair, but I don’t exactly tick the other boxes

I’m the:

- wrong race
- not a muscle meat head
- shorter than 6ft
- living with parents

Based on those attributes alone, the incel community would tell me it’s over and I would not go on any dates

I should be an inspiration to you
face?
 

doubleindemnity

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that’s true
Like I said in my OP, I struggled so much in my 20s, difference now from then:

- a lot more stylish
- in better shape, used to very skinny and weedy
- professionally more successful

Actually it's the opposite in my opinion. 23% bodyfat is good but in the bodybuilder circles it will not be considered amazing, unless there is a lot of muscular bulk. You are more successful now but you live at home and compared with the competition, you are less successful. What I mean is that other guys in their 30s in big cities are making 0.5-1 million a year and regular guys like us are much lower. Back in your 20s maybe you didn't have a penny to your name but it was the same for the other guys you were competing with. So my argument is that as you have aged you have become less competitive when measured by being in shape or professionally successful but much more successful measured by hair, because NW2 in 30s is a rare find. So your experience shows that hair is more important than all other things.

Anyway we are just arguing now. Us bald losers won't gain anything by convincing anybody that we are right. I think that I am even managing to convince my therapist. We live sad lives because of our baldness and nothing changes that. It really doesn't matter what others think or feel about it; that is our experience of life.
 

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tbh

I might have hair, but I don’t exactly tick the other boxes

I’m the:

- wrong race
- not a muscle meat head
- shorter than 6ft
- living with parents

Based on those attributes alone, the incel community would tell me it’s over and I would not go on any dates

I should be an inspiration to you
Your example shows that hair is more important than all those things. Also 5ft 11 is equal to 6ft for most people when they look at somebody and measure by eye. Try the experiment that I suggested if you really believe that your results will be any different.

I never have been NW3 but I personally believe that a NW3 can go very far by growing out the hair, using combovers, concealers etc. and then avoid the problems of hair loss.
 

Oknow

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Actually it's the opposite in my opinion. 23% bodyfat is good but in the bodybuilder circles it will not be considered amazing, unless there is a lot of muscular bulk. You are more successful now but you live at home and compared with the competition, you are less successful. What I mean is that other guys in their 30s in big cities are making 0.5-1 million a year and regular guys like us are much lower.

And not letting that hold me back
By the way people earning 0.5-1 are like the top 5% , many women have more realistic expectations
 

Oknow

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Your example shows that hair is more important than all those things. Also 5ft 11 is equal to 6ft for most people when they look at somebody and measure by eye. Try the experiment that I suggested if you really believe that your results will be any different.

I never have been NW3 but I personally believe that a NW3 can go very far by growing out the hair, using combovers, concealers etc. and then avoid the problems of hair loss.

yet I am getting more luck now in my 30s than in my 20s where I had more hair?

how does that work?
 

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yet I am getting more luck now in my 30s than in my 20s where I had more hair?

how does that work?
Because you have more experience sexually and with dating and women can sense that. More experience means confidence. I seriously would highly recommend you stop posting here and live you life to the fullest.
 

Feelsbadman

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Because you have more experience sexually and with dating and women can sense that. More experience means confidence. I seriously would highly recommend you stop posting here and live you life to the fullest.
this women love confidence !
i told my deformed freind this and he has a model gf now
 

DoctorHouse

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this women love confidence !
i told my deformed freind this and he has a model gf now
If I could only believe half of what you say.......................Who cares about that. You need to find a good therapist who will understand you. Find yourself an ugly short bald therapist who is married or in a relationship and see if everything you believe is true.
 

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If I could only believe half of what you say.......................Who cares about that. You need to find a good therapist who will understand you. Find yourself an ugly short bald therapist who is married or in a relationship and see if everything you believe is true.
i wish i could go back 3 years ago and be with my mentally ill ex
 

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i wish i could go back 3 years ago and be with my mentally ill ex

I think a huge part of the problem that you have is your location

Australia is a sh*t hole, I’ve heard from other people who have lived there that it is an incredible racist, superficial place for dating

Ethnic minorities apparently have it the hardest out there - there is a bodybuilder called ZYZZ, who for example only started getting women once he became jacked

I bet I wouldn’t get as much success there if any at all

London, in contrast is a superficial place but it’s cultural identity is all about multiculturalism and diversity, so it’s a lot easier to meet and go out with women of different backgrounds

Have you considered moving?
 

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Really? I live in Warsaw and my balding has never been a dealbreaker. I mean, my balding was never hidden and was slicking my hair back, with diffused hair along my relationship with my last girlfriend (I left her), who despite my serious balding wanted to have sex with me desperately. But well, now with the fact I am shaved almost to the bone, I wonder if I will have sex or relationships anymore, because so far I did not meet someone who was willing to f*** me (one crazy instawhore does not count)
You live in Europe. Totally different from Americuck. Europe has less women who are self centered and social media / tiktok obsessed. Also you have prostitution in either your country or bordering countries. This means that women don't have a chokehold on the sex market and can't make the same demands. Any incel in Europe has a risk free chance (legally) to at least experience sex on a physical level. In americuck you get caught with an escprt you register as a sex offender which will ruin your life. And lots of people on here say that officials don't pay much attention, wrong, they do and bust people all the time.
 
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