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whatintheworld

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The point is there are no more excuses anymore.

All you need to do is save up money for a top tier surgeon and you get out of the bald guy category, even with shitty donors, a good hairline is obtainable.

Now, if you went all the way to Norwood 7 and with DUPA, then you are a true martyr and I will kneel on the alter to pray for your well being.
 

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Women can wear makeup to deceive you regarding their face.
Yup, I'll never feel bad for women about anything relating to relationships. Overweight? Go lose weight, the cure for obesity has been around since the beginning of time.
Bad face? Makeup and probably lose weight.
Short? No one cares.
Bald? Won't happen unless you have alopecia and society allows them to wear wigs. And again, men are not as selective.
Race? Men are not as selective regarding race.
Money? Men don't care about how much you make. You can be broke, a lot of men don't care.
 

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Yup, I'll never feel bad for women about anything relating to relationships. Overweight? Go lose weight, the cure for obesity has been around since the beginning of time.
Bad face? Makeup and probably lose weight.
Short? No one cares.
Bald? Won't happen unless you have alopecia and society allows them to wear wigs. And again, men are not as selective.
Race? Men are not as selective regarding race.
Money? Men don't care about how much you make. You can be broke, a lot of men don't care.
this reminds me of something i just read.

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a18196737/adderall-overdose/

this b**ch really just went and overdosed and almost died . . . . because a guy didn't text her back on tinder. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:. imagine if she was your average guy and hundreds of girls weren't texting her back LMAOOOO. western women are f*****g insanely spoiled it blows my mind
 

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The point is there are no more excuses anymore.

All you need to do is save up money for a top tier surgeon and you get out of the bald guy category, even with shitty donors, a good hairline is obtainable.

Now, if you went all the way to Norwood 7 and with DUPA, then you are a true martyr and I will kneel on the alter to pray for your well being.

With poor donor it's very limited. Do you really think that a guy with Prince Charles hair is out of the bald guy category? I don't think that it's age appropriate under the age of 35; it would still elicit "just shave it bro".

EDit: Like this.... is this kind of hair really getting you out of the bald guy category? That would be the result with poor donor but with the sides and crown loss going even lower.
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whatintheworld

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With poor donor it's very limited. Do you really think that a guy with Prince Charles hair is out of the bald guy category? I don't think that it's age appropriate under the age of 35; it would still elicit "just shave it bro".

EDit: Like this.... is this kind of hair really getting you out of the bald guy category? That would be the result with poor donor but with the sides and crown loss going even lower.
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It 100% would. My crown is at a similar level and since I still have my front (barely but its hanging in there), people don't even think I'm bald. Do I really know what they're thinking? No, but I know for myself, before hairloss, I really didn't think about if a guy had a balding crown.

You only interact with people face to face, so the front is most important.
 

whatintheworld

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Yup, I'll never feel bad for women about anything relating to relationships. Overweight? Go lose weight, the cure for obesity has been around since the beginning of time.
Bad face? Makeup and probably lose weight.
Short? No one cares.
Bald? Won't happen unless you have alopecia and society allows them to wear wigs. And again, men are not as selective.
Race? Men are not as selective regarding race.
Money? Men don't care about how much you make. You can be broke, a lot of men don't care.
You're actually off the mark quite a bit on this one. Women have a big problem securing the relationships they want, it isn't easy for them. A lot of those things are actually dealbreakers for guys who are thinking about marrying a woman and having kids with her.

Bad face and overweight? Sign of bad genetics, especially if she tries diet and exercise and still can't keep the weight off easily.
Short? Undesirable. Don't want your son to be another FeelsBadMan.
Bald? Undesirable for obvious reasons.
Race is contingent upon individual tastes but let's just assume you can date within your own race at a minimum.
Money? Big dealbreaker if a woman has no job and no income for a lot of guys, triggers gold digger alarms.

Hooking up of course those are all irrelevant, mostly.
 
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You're actually off the mark quite a bit on this one. Women have a big problem securing the relationships they want, it isn't easy for them. A lot of those things are actually dealbreakers for guys who are thinking about marrying a woman and having kids with her.

Bad face and overweight? Sign of bad genetics, especially if she tries diet and exercise and still can't keep the weight off easily.
Short? Undesirable. Don't want your son to be another FeelsBadMan.
Bald? Undesirable for obvious reasons.
Race is contingent upon individual tastes but let's just assume you can date within your own race at a minimum.
Money? Big dealbreaker if a woman has no job and no income for a lot of guys, triggers gold digger alarms.

Hooking up of course those are all irrelevant, mostly.
Absolute horse sh*t.
For overweight, you can at least work hard and hide the fact you have a poor metabolism. You can't hide short/ bald. Plus men get judged by their weight as well.

Men do not think about how tall the kids would be. They don't care nearly as much about height.

Female pattern baldness is very rare pre-menopause and alopecia hits both genders.

The only race that I think somewhat struggles is black women. But nowhere near as bad as Indian men.

The standards for money is more harsh for men. Women can easily have a bartender job and be fine. Men better make 100k a year eventually or they are worthless.

And finally women struggle securing the relationship they want because of hypergamy. The men who meet all those standards are flooded with opportunities. Women set up their own failure and then complain about it. It's like entry level jobs requiring 5 year of related experience and the company complaining about not having qualified candidates.
 

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Absolute horse sh*t.
For overweight, you can at least work hard and hide the fact you have a poor metabolism. You can't hide short/ bald. Plus men get judged by their weight as well.

Men do not think about how tall the kids would be. They don't care nearly as much about height.

Female pattern baldness is very rare pre-menopause and alopecia hits both genders.

The only race that I think somewhat struggles is black women. But nowhere near as bad as Indian men.

The standards for money is more harsh for men. Women can easily have a bartender job and be fine. Men better make 100k a year eventually or they are worthless.

And finally women struggle securing the relationship they want because of hypergamy. The men who meet all those standards are flooded with opportunities. Women set up their own failure and then complain about it. It's like entry level jobs requiring 5 year of related experience and the company complaining about not having qualified candidates.

Nobody cares how much a man earns. We'd all be in a much simpler position if we could just career max our way out of baldness.
 

whatintheworld

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Absolute horse sh*t.
For overweight, you can at least work hard and hide the fact you have a poor metabolism. You can't hide short/ bald. Plus men get judged by their weight as well.

Men do not think about how tall the kids would be. They don't care nearly as much about height.

Female pattern baldness is very rare pre-menopause and alopecia hits both genders.

The only race that I think somewhat struggles is black women. But nowhere near as bad as Indian men.

The standards for money is more harsh for men. Women can easily have a bartender job and be fine. Men better make 100k a year eventually or they are worthless.

And finally women struggle securing the relationship they want because of hypergamy. The men who meet all those standards are flooded with opportunities. Women set up their own failure and then complain about it. It's like entry level jobs requiring 5 year of related experience and the company complaining about not having qualified candidates.
Look I generally agree with you but all I was trying to say is, imagine you are a woman trying to lock down a top tier guy. It's no easier either way if you are at the top, or are trying to get there.

One big advantage for guys is, we can at least accumulate money/resources and boost ourselves a lot that way.
 

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Look I generally agree with you but all I was trying to say is, imagine you are a woman trying to lock down a top tier guy. It's no easier either way if you are at the top, or are trying to get there.

One big advantage for guys is, we can at least accumulate money/resources and boost ourselves a lot that way.
Not anymore. If you are short, bald, or ugly then you can't put a price on that.
 

whatintheworld

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Not anymore. If you are short, bald, or ugly then you can't put a price on that.
Like I mentioned in my other thread, I want just one example of one ugly guy that has:

1) a nice haircut. achievable for everyone if you got on finasteride early enough /saved up enough money for a top tier transplant. There is no excuse for lack of finasteride/minoxidil knowledge anymore, almost everyone has an internet connection.
2) went to a dentist regularly and have nice teeth.
3) workout regularly/are in good shape.
4) dress stylishly/pay for nice, form fitting clothes.
5) went to a dermatologist regularly and don't have anything like major acne scars.

If you can find me just one single example of an ugly guy with all of these attributes, I will concede your point and admit I am completely wrong.

The height thing is a separate topic and outside the scope of this forum, obviously if you are 5'5" and live in a country like Germany where the average woman is like 5'10" you will need to change geographic location most likely.
 

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Absolute horse sh*t.
For overweight, you can at least work hard and hide the fact you have a poor metabolism. You can't hide short/ bald. Plus men get judged by their weight as well.

Men do not think about how tall the kids would be. They don't care nearly as much about height.

Female pattern baldness is very rare pre-menopause and alopecia hits both genders.

The only race that I think somewhat struggles is black women. But nowhere near as bad as Indian men.

The standards for money is more harsh for men. Women can easily have a bartender job and be fine. Men better make 100k a year eventually or they are worthless.

And finally women struggle securing the relationship they want because of hypergamy. The men who meet all those standards are flooded with opportunities. Women set up their own failure and then complain about it. It's like entry level jobs requiring 5 year of related experience and the company complaining about not having qualified candidates.

agreed but looks>>>>>money. I've known high-earning career women and trust fund princesses who stuck with handsome losers. if you are in the highest percentiles lookswise, money is largely irrelevant in my experience
 
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