Why do some people bald extremely fast?

Thickandthin

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Hammer87 said:
Jude Law is someone who doesn't seem to have lost his hair too quickly. He had some recession at 22 (Though it looked more like a mature hairline). At 25/26 10 years ago you could see his temples were going.

Now he's 35 and about a Norwood 3? and his crown looks fine.

It's possible he's been on Propecia/Proscar the entire time. I suspect a great deal of male celebrities are on it.....and its probably recommended by their agents/handlers. These people's livelihoods depends on their client's success - it's also probably why so many stars get plastic surgery even when they don't really need it - preventative measures I guess.
 

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slowburn said:
Making fun of fat people again. :jackit: :thumbdown2:

Get some class.

No it was only the stupid theory that I was making fun of. :jackit:
 

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Petchsky said:
I know Price Charles has used Dermatch for years, there was an article about it once from one of his previously close aides as the royals call them, everyone else would say servants.

Charles has been grey for years, do they do a grey dermatch?
 

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No it was only the stupid theory that I was making fun of. :jackit:

Stupid theory? You should try reading a book by Dr Gillian McKeith. It’s called you are what you eat. It will wake you up to how diet can affect almost everything in your body. A very informative book.

Diet may have no effect whatsoever on hairloss, however, it may, and there is absolutely zero side effects to having a healthy diet. I believe people should do their best to cover every angle possible.

What’s so stupid about that theory SAF?
 

s.a.f

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Well I believe m.p.b is down to genetics and diet cant change genetics.
 

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s.a.f said:
Well I believe m.p.b is down to genetics and diet cant change genetics.

I guess everyone is entitled to believe what they want BUT diet does effect male pattern baldness. It's a fact that environmental factors have an affect on genetics. "Outside" factors contribute to the transcription of genes.

Diet does have an affect on genetics but over many years. If you eat something unhealthy for a few days/weeks, it does not automatically lead to hair loss or stop hair loss. IT TAKE'S YEARS.
 

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So there are millions of guys walking around with hair who would be bald/balding if they'd have had a bad diet for years, but healthy eating has saved them without them even realising?
Whilst millions of other guys with bald/balding heads would be ok now if only they'd eaten healthily?

As I said in the other thread I believe m.p.b is like hair or eye colour you cant change it with diets etc, you get what you're born to have, its whatevers in your genes.
 

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Thickandthin said:
Hammer87 said:
Jude Law is someone who doesn't seem to have lost his hair too quickly. He had some recession at 22 (Though it looked more like a mature hairline). At 25/26 10 years ago you could see his temples were going.

Now he's 35 and about a Norwood 3? and his crown looks fine.

It's possible he's been on Propecia/Proscar the entire time. I suspect a great deal of male celebrities are on it.....and its probably recommended by their agents/handlers. These people's livelihoods depends on their client's success - it's also probably why so many stars get plastic surgery even when they don't really need it - preventative measures I guess.

Hmm..maybe. If you read his interviews though and seen his hairstyles in the past, hairloss doesn't seem to bother him at all. For one role he even had an expert look at his scalp under a microscope and shave individual hairs to make it appear more receeded!

Also, you can see it's gradually got worse. With propecia wouldn't it have stayed the same for years until it wore off, then gone?
 

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s.a.f said:
So there are millions of guys walking around with hair who would be bald/balding if they'd have had a bad diet for years, but healthy eating has saved them without them even realising?
Whilst millions of other guys with bald/balding heads would be ok now if only they'd eaten healthily?

As I said in the other thread I believe m.p.b is like hair or eye colour you cant change it with diets etc, you get what you're born to have, its whatevers in your genes.

Genes ARE affected by other factors...

You can induce genes to switch on quicker/slower...

Just as you can increase/decrease your life by a few years by living a healthy/unhealthy life style...

Genetic factors do play a part in people who live longer but that can be affected by "outside" factors just like diet can affect how quickly your hair loss starts (in men predisposed to male pattern baldness)...

Diet cannot stop/cure hair loss but it can speed it up in individuals predisposed to male pattern baldness
 

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Sundenly i started to bald very fast. I already lost 40% of my hair. F***king shedding.
 

Petchsky

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s.a.f said:
Charles has been grey for years, do they do a grey dermatch?

Howay man - https://www.dermmatch.com/HowToOrder.php

On the whole diet/genetics debate. A personal example, i know this woman, really attractive for her age, in her 50s now, cained drugs from an early age, smoked, ate poorly - still gorgeous with high cheekbones, no doubt if she had ate better and not smoked she would look even better now, but the difference is not that great and i think it's the same with diet, it does have an effect, but the question is how much of an effect. I think genetics is king, much more so than diet...i hear what your saying o prime, but is it worth the added benefit for the amount of effort?

Slowburn - dude, stop being being so fat sensitive, no ones having a go at you.
 

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Petchsky said:
s.a.f said:
Charles has been grey for years, do they do a grey dermatch?

Howay man - https://www.dermmatch.com/HowToOrder.php

On the whole diet/genetics debate. A personal example, i know this woman, really attractive for her age, in her 50s now, cained drugs from an early age, smoked, ate poorly - still gorgeous with high cheekbones, no doubt if she had ate better and not smoked she would look even better now, but the difference is not that great and i think it's the same with diet, it does have an effect, but the question is how much of an effect. I think genetics is king, much more so than diet...i hear what your saying o prime, but is it worth the added benefit for the amount of effort?

Slowburn - dude, stop being being so fat sensitive, no ones having a go at you.
I realize that, but cracking on fat peeps is far to easy a shot.
Why even bother, just to get your rocks off.
 

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slowburn said:
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Thickandthin said:
Despite what I said earlier about protein/bodybuilding and MBP being coincidence - sometimes I wonder if perhaps its not the diet that causes, but the increase in body mass?

I've got a NW2/2.5 at 21, but my brother probably didn't get there until 25/26. Interestingly, we probably weigh the same amount for the first time in our lives (185ish). He didn't reach this weight until his mid twenties, whereas I hit it around 20 (around the same time my hairline started receding.) My dad's hairline didn't start going until he was probably in his early 30s (although his crown had started going before that) - again, probably around the time he reached a higher body mass since he was skinny in his teens and twenties.

I don't know if there's any scientific basis for it but sometimes I wonder if reaching a certain body weight, for some people, kick starts the balding process. Does putting on weight biologically age a person?


Thickandthin,

I have tried to explore this theory too but without reaching any conclusion. In someways like you, I have a younger brother, who started loosing it as soon as he hit 18. he is about 6 feet and 200 pounds and chubby (doesnt exercise) he started gaining weight around 12 yrs of age. I started loosing mine around 24 -25. I have always been skinny all my life but I started gaining weight (Thankfully and intentionally) around 23-24 around the same time or a little before I started loosing hair. Although I have always been athletic or skinny and never overweight but I gained about 20 pounds or more (from 160 to 180 pnds) at 23 and 24 yrs of age. My dad on the other hand has always been skinny and still is and he started loosing in his early 30s. My brothers and my hairloss is diffuse with not much receeding at all as yet where as my dad was more receeding and crown and less diffuse. I haven seen any research about any correlation of such weight gain and hairloss but it does conclude that certain genetic changes in the body set it off.
 

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mj9 said:
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Cassin said:
Probably won't be a top 10 informative post nominee....

thanks to slowburn :jackit:
 

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stress also plays a factor in speeding up hairloss or possibly kickstarting it in those who are genetically vulnerable to it.

college age males for example- infact ive noticed a fnumber of receding/ balding guys in my 2ndyear class of over 100 students. although myself i noticed my slight thinning a couple of months before my summer exams & i wasnt stressed out. maybe its coz im thinning that ive noticed others more i dont know- last semester there was only 2 or 3 guys i noticed who were balding & those 2 were quite obvious, now its a few guys more- maybe it was the summer exams that got made it happen.

im on big 3 now & just gonna act calm now- despite the 2nd year being more important than 1st year.
 
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