Why do some people bald extremely fast?

[optimus prime]

I think genetics is king, much more so than diet...i hear what your saying o prime, but is it worth the added benefit for the amount of effort?

I guess that depends on the person, some people enjoy eating healthy some really hate it. I have changed my diet for the last 1.5 years and it’s been worth it for me. Made me feel less sluggish and mentally makes me feel more disciplined and motivated. So I keep with for other reasons external to hairloss…

I guess its true, if you really don't eating healthy then why do it, you only live once right...

 

[s.a.f]

stress also plays a factor in speeding up hairloss or possibly kickstarting it in those who are genetically vulnerable to it.

college age males for example- infact ive noticed a fnumber of receding/ balding guys in my 2ndyear class of over 100 students. although myself i noticed my slight thinning a couple of months before my summer exams & i wasnt stressed out. maybe its coz im thinning that ive noticed others more i dont know- last semester there was only 2 or 3 guys i noticed who were balding & those 2 were quite obvious, now its a few guys more- maybe it was the summer exams that got made it happen.

im on big 3 now & just gonna act calm now- despite the 2nd year being more important than 1st year.

Duh, :roll: this was covered a few pages back college age males thinning, could it be stress or more likely that college age is the age when m.p.b kicks in, these guys would start losing it wether they were in college or wether they were sat by a pool living off a lottery win its just their time.

Exactly how stressfull is your studying? life or death I think not, :smack:

if you want to know about stress look at how people lived a few centuries ago struggling just to get enough food to survive on, few people making it to the age of 40 ect.

Were they all bald?

This is the 20th century no one has real stress anymore unless they are in a life or death situation.

 

[Avery]

Besides, stress-related hair loss doesn't look anything like male-pattern-baldness. Stress doesn't cause your crown to thin or your temples to receed. It causes patches of hair to fall out (not minaturize) or all over thinning (including the areas a man typically doesn't loose any hair). 95% of all claims that stress is causing or induced their hair loss are people trying to justify a bad thing, make it something they can fight. Hi, the universe is arbitrary.

 

[slowburn]

Probably won't be a top 10 informative post nominee....

thanks to slowburn :jackit:

:gay: :jackit:

 

[s.a.f]

Besides, stress-related hair loss doesn't look anything like male-pattern-baldness. Stress doesn't cause your crown to thin or your temples to receed. It causes patches of hair to fall out (not minaturize) or all over thinning (including the areas a man typically doesn't loose any hair). 95% of all claims that stress is causing or induced their hair loss are people trying to justify a bad thing, make it something they can fight. Hi, the universe is arbitrary.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[FreeloaderUK]

This is the 20th century no one has real stress anymore unless they are in a life or death situation.

funny how stress related sickness/ work absence has sky rocketed over the last few years.

stress doesnt CAUSE hairloss. genetics cause it- stress can however cause that gene to turn on before it would have otherwise & it can speed things up.

once the gene is activated then ur in trouble. if u dont have the gene/ combination of genes u can have loads of stress & retain a NW1 right up until the day u die. thats the lottery of genetics for you.

 

[slowburn]

 

[s.a.f]

This is the 20th century no one has real stress anymore unless they are in a life or death situation.

funny how stress related sickness/ work absence has sky rocketed over the last few years.

Yes because people have so little to worry about that they build up minor problems to the point where they become in their mind unbearable.
There are some prime examples to be found on this board.
Also I'd bet that a huge % of stress absenteeism is simply skiving, if you can get away with a free month off work by telling the Dr that you're stressed plenty of people are going to do it. I know people who've gone off with stress because their dog died, can you imagine someone trying that excuse 50 yrs ago!!

 

[FreeloaderUK]

the point being that stress does exist- increasing job workload, job insecurity- you name it etc

50years 40years ago even 30years ago in the UK u graduated from college- u could walk into a cushy job that set u up for life. now you need more qualifications than god knows what just to be an overworked & underpaid nurse. workload & hours have gone through the roof & so has pressure. stress isnt a myth- it exists. companies operating on shoestring budgets demanding ever more from staff. open your eyes. my dad's managment job was so stressful that he had two, yes two heart attacks. ive got photos of him dated 1989 & 91. & he's easily gone from a NW3 to NW4.

if u are genetically prone to balding, have a poor diet & a really stressful job ur guaranteed to be in trouble.

 

[slowburn]

[quote="s.a.f":37hns2fk]

This is the 20th century no one has real stress anymore unless they are in a life or death situation.

funny how stress related sickness/ work absence has sky rocketed over the last few years.

Yes because people have so little to worry about that they build up minor problems to the point where they become in their mind unbearable.
There are some prime examples to be found on this board.
Also I'd bet that a huge % of stress absenteeism is simply skiving, if you can get away with a free month off work by telling the Dr that you're stressed plenty of people are going to do it. I know people who've gone off with stress because their dog died, can you imagine someone trying that excuse 50 yrs ago!![/quote:37hns2fk]

 

[s.a.f]

Fair enough, have a nice life stressing over wether everything you do is going to lose you a few hairs. Dont eat this .... dont drink that, never work out, dont get stressed about wether or not you're going to get stressed.
And whatever you do dont ever have sex with a woman :freaked: the testosterone spike could lose a few hairs.

Castration is an option.

:whistle:

The fact is if you have the genetics for m.p.b you're fucked whatever you do. The only thing that will have any worthwhile effect is meds.

You really think you can make a viable difference by changing a few eating habits. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
It aint gonna work.

If you have m.p.b genes JUST LIVING IS BAD FOR YOUR HAIR.

You want a full proof cure for hairloss? then just cut off your head. :roll: I garantee you wont have to worry about losing another hair.

 

[Thickandthin]

Fair enough, have a nice life stressing over wether everything you do is going to lose you a few hairs. Dont eat this .... dont drink that, never work out, dont get stressed about wether or not you're going to get stressed.
And whatever you do dont ever have sex with a woman :freaked: the testosterone spike could lose a few hairs.

Castration is an option.

:whistle:

The fact is if you have the genetics for m.p.b you're f***ed whatever you do. The only thing that will have any worthwhile effect is meds.

You really think you can make a viable difference by changing a few eating habits. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
It aint gonna work.

If you have m.p.b genes JUST LIVING IS BAD FOR YOUR HAIR.

You want a full proof cure for hairloss? then just cut off your head. :roll: I garantee you wont have to worry about losing another hair.

:bravo:

 

[mj9]

Yes because people have so little to worry about that they build up minor problems to the point where they become in their mind unbearable.
There are some prime examples to be found on this board.
Also I'd bet that a huge % of stress absenteeism is simply skiving, if you can get away with a free month off work by telling the Dr that you're stressed plenty of people are going to do it. I know people who've gone off with stress because their dog died, can you imagine someone trying that excuse 50 yrs ago!!

:stupid: I have to agree! :jackit:

 

[slowburn]

:stupid: I have to agree! :jackit:

 

[mj9]

:stupid: I have to agree! :jackit:

 

[slowburn]

:stupid: I have to agree! :jackit:

 

[Hammer87]

Just an observation...

Did anyone notice that the guy who did the film/documentary Supersize Me (Eating McDonald's for every meal of every day for a month) hair loss went from barely noticeable to obvious in the space of just a month?

 

[steelhorse]

genitics.. passed down through generations

 

[ChrisJ]

Fair enough, have a nice life stressing over wether everything you do is going to lose you a few hairs. Dont eat this .... dont drink that, never work out, dont get stressed about wether or not you're going to get stressed.
And whatever you do dont ever have sex with a woman :freaked: the testosterone spike could lose a few hairs.

Working out IS healthy, einstein. The kinda workout that raises DHT is the one with doing just weight training while ignoring cardio. But weight training combined with cardio is HEALTHY. Thats what doctors (eg: Dr Oz) suggest. 30 min cardio everyday and weight training 3 times a week.

As for the rest of the discussion, same silly arguments, so I'll just quote this guy, he PUT IT WELL:

I agree with Petchsky, if you're not genetical predisposed, smoking will have a little, if any contribution in hair loss.Anxiety ,bad diet ,not enough time of sleep etc ,play a role for someone with hair loss but then again if you eliminate or minimize these factors ,I believe the gains will be very minimal.

Wrong, and you need to learn about the epigenome. Epigenome has proven FACT that your life style all by its self will change the expression of your genetics. So yes your diet and ect make a difference, and yes some people are genetically gifted.

Some people are big muscular with no fat even though they don't work out and eat like crap, so are they the rule???? No they are the exception.

And even if you have "good" hair genetics your hair is still affected my your lifestyle, you may not be bald and it may look better than most, but it is not as good as it would be ie looking healthy and thick than if you would have a healthy lifestyle.


Anyone that thinks their life style has nothing to do with their hair, face, body, or general health is a lazy moron that deserves every hair to fall out of his/her head.