wino said:
I wonder how much he nets? I would say six figures, easily. I wish the admin for this site would volunteer his opinion.
Sorry, I didn't see this thread until now:
Here is my take on the above comments:
1) It sucks owning a site. There are guys who come here and question my "motives" for things when I swear I've poured my blood sweat and tears into making this the most pure, genuine web site of them all. The sad reality is that you have to have a thick skin to run a site like this, or be in any leadership position, because someone will *always* accuse you of the worst. Always.
2) I don't think Farrel would mind me speaking for myself, him, john ertel of regrowth or David from hairsite when I say all of us make money off of these sites. We have to, in order to invest the amount of time we do into them. I am a firm believer however that the amount of money you make does not necessarily mean your ethics or decisions are controlled by it. This is entirely dependant upon your upbringing, and what values each site owner holds to. I can only speak for myself, and I would rather bail on this site than ever let anything control what I do or say with it ... whether it be a business like Merck, or an immaterial concept like the love of money.
3) Sometimes I think site owners experience something I call "hair loss burnout". Sometimes they hold back for so many months that eventually they just go on Banning rampages. I almost did it 2 weeks ago when people were repeatedly implying that Merck controlls this site, and that I've sold out. As a site owner you try to hold back and allow people freedom of expression. Sometimes though, you quite simply just get so fed up with it that you just start tagging people left and right until the bad seeds are completely gone. I have not ever done that. Usually I find the genuinely bad seed's and remove them individually. A grand total of 2 in the last 3 years. But Im sure many of you remember seeing me threaten a banning rampage quite often! It's funny ... because Im sure if we all met in a bar somewhere, we'd all be good friends.
Farrel and I have had years of disagreements, and outright fights ... Farrel and David have fought publicly .... People have trash talked John of Regrowth for his policies. David and I have gone at it. All of Davids users hated me with a vile disgust for awhile there because of my position on all their bandwagon jumping and incessant promotion of extremely questionable products. The drama is and can be endless.
In the end, we all realized that it was just easier to accept eachothers differences and try to work together. For a long long time, Farrel was probably the most upsetting person in my entire life. I am sure he might say the same of me. The disgust we had for eachother was vicious and volatile. There was a time where I was thoroughly convinced that Farrel was the antichrist, and that he was sent from hell to be the one thing that would always cripple the success of this site. I *know* for a fact he thought the same of me.
In the end, the exhaustion and disgust with all the negativity resulted in a civil conversation, several months of building trust again, and communication communication communication. Since then I have gotten to know Farrel as an individual, and unless he's a great actor, I realized what I mentioned above - we'd all get along if we'd met under different circumstances. Even the biggest dick can turn out to be a good guy after all, if the setting is corrected. I hope I qualify for both sides of that coin, because I can be a real dick sometimes too.
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