Why Men Being Short Is A Deal Breaker For Women

[Afro_Vacancy]

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/su...r/news-story/1a520532b9e3bb0676c00584e75ee337

Women, meanwhile, openly declare their heightism in the vein of, “I’m only attracted to tall men. Don’t bother if you’re under 6ft,” or, “Not into short guys. Sorry.” Diana, 38, is 5ft 4in (1.62m), but has a 6ft (1.82m) rule. “I can’t help who I’m attracted to,” she says. “It’s just my thing.”

Similarly, Mary, 33, at 5ft 8in (1.72m), wears her highest heels on a date as a height litmus test, to catch out liars. “Guys delude themselves and add a couple of extra inches. It’s so annoying when you like them but they’re too short,” she says.

What if you fell in love with a dude who’s shorter, I ask? “It won’t happen. I’d rather be single,” she replies. “I’ve spent too much money on my heel collection to wear flats for life.”

 

[Roberto_72]

I think it makes perfect sense. Every statistics shows that taller men are better paid, get better jobs, are more likely to win a political race.

The idea that women should not take these factors into account when choosing a mate is simplistic.

I will go even further and say that we should put aside forever the romantic notion (started in the Reinassance and still going strong) that considers women as super - humans who, differently from us men, are not constantly driven by instincts, know better, are caring, etc.

They are human beings and are driven by both high ideals and base instincts, as we men are.

And they can be stupid too: the woman who is 162 cm tall and only considers 182 cm tall guys (that's eight inches isn't it?) will very likely end up alone if she doesn't (literary) lower her standards.

 

[shookwun]

jeez christ.


It's not a deal breaker unless you are under 5'7. UNless of course you are from the neartherlands or any of those nordic giant countries where 5'11 is average. I would beg to say that even 5'9 would be a deal breaker.

A lot of euros are tall to. The women in Ukraine, and Russia are very tall on average.



Baldness is the only deal breaker. it's one of those traits where you can have a full deck going for you, but she cannot look passed the baldness. Countless times I have heard baldness being a NO-GO

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

jeez christ.


It's not a deal breaker unless you are under 5'7. UNless of course you are from the neartherlands or any of those nordic giant countries where 5'11 is average. I would beg to say that even 5'9 would be a deal breaker.

A lot of euros are tall to. The women in Ukraine, and Russia are very tall on average.



Baldness is the only deal breaker. it's one of those traits where you can have a full deck going for you, but she cannot look passed the baldness. Countless times I have heard baldness being a NO-GO

A lot of women want a height premium. Either taller than them, or taller than them in heels. It's a deal breaker for many women.

Was on this date last year, the girl was enjoying it, laughing at my jokes, drinking, telling me about her family, her life, her dreams, her values, ... we had been sitting down the whole time and she exclaims "you're taller than me right ?!?!?!"

Which clearly means that the date was going well, but she was worried she would have to rule me out when we stood up. Unfortunately, I'm only ~4 cm taller than her, so no relationship happened and we never had another date.

Let's not be in denial. The very first thing either sex values in heterosexual partnerships is women valuing height, a distant second is men preferring slim women.

 

[shookwun]

it depends where you are from.

In North America, it simply is not a deal breaker unless you are SUB HUMAN height to the point where you look like a 'short guy' which typically aims at men 5'7 and under.


Every country it different,.



For example latin, and African women are realy into muscular built guys. That's there niche... dont favor skinny guys.


How ever where Fred is from he claims muscularity is of low importance (could be a cope)

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

it depends where you are from.

In North America, it simply is not a deal breaker unless you are SUB HUMAN height to the point where you look like a 'short guy' which typically aims at men 5'7 and under.


Every country it different,.



For example latin, and African women are realy into muscular built guys. That's there niche... dont favor skinny guys.


How ever where Fred is from he claims muscularity is of low importance (could be a cope)

There's a slight shift in the scale. Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, etc have an average height 2 or 3 inches higher than North America. So that shifts the scale, but that doesn't change the effect. Height still matters. 6'3 in Belgium is like 6'1 in Canada or the United States.

Facial symmetry
Facial averageness
0.9 waist to hip ratio (it's 0.70 for women)
Slightly exaggerated secondary sexual characteristics (height, muscles, deep voice, broad shoulders, etc)

Are universal attributes of male attractiveness.

 

[Roberto_72]

she exclaims "you're taller than me right ?!?!?!"

Must have been one of those epiphanies which shake just a little bit your hopes and convictions. Or, to put it more simply, a WTF moment.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

You insist on height because you're tall yourself. I do the same.

Good-looking shorter will say that looks matter and height not so much.

Muscular guys like shook will say muscles matter.

It's all cope based on what advantages we have.

Let me contribute with my cope: height is crucial and muscles don't matter!

Don't assume everyone is incredibly biased.

I'm not coping and the factors I listed are widely discussed in the scientific literature.

Is it a cope when I list a 0.9 WHP as ideal? I don't even know what my waist to hip ratio is.

Just FYI 181 cm is not tall, it's about average.

My muscles and bone size are average too.

My chest hair is below average.

I have no trouble listing beneficial things I don't have.

 

[Dench57]

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

The girls quoted in the article are spoiled, cosmopolitan brats. I wouldn't date them anyway. You can also find girls who won't date a guy if his penis is under 10 inches, or if he doesn't have a certain hair or eye color. It doesn't mean much. I'm a few inches under that 6' requirement, and well I've been with girls who don't typically date guys my height, I've never had trouble getting whoever I wanted.

Edit: I think height is more important for older guys too. When you're youthful, and in shape with am attractive face, height is not a big deal. When you get old and weathered you need an imposing figure to attract women.

That's really not as common as the height rule.

 

[shookwun]

The girls quoted in the article are spoiled, cosmopolitan brats. I wouldn't date them anyway. You can also find girls who won't date a guy if his penis is under 10 inches, or if he doesn't have a certain hair or eye color. It doesn't mean much. I'm a few inches under that 6' requirement, and well I've been with girls who don't typically date guys my height, I've never had trouble getting whoever I wanted.

Edit: I think height is more important for older guys too. When you're youthful, and in shape with am attractive face, height is not a big deal. When you get old and weathered you need an imposing figure to attract women.

I agree with this,. Height and and a good body becomes much more prevalent the older one gets for appearing attractive.

 

[buckthorn]

Well, I discriminate based on height as well. I am 5'9" ish and will be much less likely to want a date a woman that's taller than 5'6" - 5'7". I also like girls that are petite, or toned. Though society has bent the rules a bit, an inherent need to sexually "dominate" a woman is still very much real (at the expense of sounding like a rapist haha). This is also where muscles come into play. I need to be able to pick her up and throw her on the bed.

 

[resu]

jeez christ.


It's not a deal breaker unless you are under 5'7. UNless of course you are from the neartherlands or any of those nordic giant countries where 5'11 is average. I would beg to say that even 5'9 would be a deal breaker.

A lot of euros are tall to. The women in Ukraine, and Russia are very tall on average.



Baldness is the only deal breaker. it's one of those traits where you can have a full deck going for you, but she cannot look passed the baldness. Countless times I have heard baldness being a NO-GO

I'm Tom Cruise height aka 170cm and I can guarantee that being of this height as an adult it's a deal breaker in every aspect of life, you should raise it to 175cm (whatever that is in feets) and then yeah you're cruising in life.

Balding was the dagger to the heart, it's just life's way of saying nah-nah you won't have any chance now.

 

[shookwun]

Sorry bro, but BALDNESS was a deal breaker, height alone isn't.

I have worked, hanged out and dealt with many short people as, friends, and colleagues and they are all doing fine.

I know one guy who is 5'4 with crown baldness at 35 and he has been single since he was 25. All the other people I know who are over 5'7 are doing perfectly fine.

5'6-5'8 is the tipping point.

 

[resu]

That's what I've said, in feet the minimum height would be 5.8 which is close to 176 cm. Anything below 170 cm you're done. Between 175 cm and 170 cm you need to be really good looking and outgoing plus have money and connections, basically you need to hit all the check marks. My cousin is in that height range and he is bullied by his wife, guy turned into a puppet.

 

[Funkymonk1]

The girls quoted in the article are spoiled, cosmopolitan brats. I wouldn't date them anyway. You can also find girls who won't date a guy if his penis is under 10 inches, or if he doesn't have a certain hair or eye color. It doesn't mean much. I'm a few inches under that 6' requirement, and well I've been with girls who don't typically date guys my height, I've never had trouble getting whoever I wanted.

Edit: I think height is more important for older guys too. When you're youthful, and in shape with am attractive face, height is not a big deal. When you get old and weathered you need an imposing figure to attract women.

Sorry bro, but BALDNESS was a deal breaker, height alone isn't.

I have worked, hanged out and dealt with many short people as, friends, and colleagues and they are all doing fine.

I know one guy who is 5'4 with crown baldness at 35 and he has been single since he was 25. All the other people I know who are over 5'7 are doing perfectly fine.

5'6-5'8 is the tipping point.

Thank you. At least you two are talking some sense . People are taking some comments made by some self important, immature brats in an article and using it to justify some generalisation that all women find short men unattractive. Some women probably do prefer tall men if they had a choice but as shookwun said shortness alone isn't a deal breaker and I'm proof of that. Put it this way; I'm 5.5 but get more female attention and sexy time then my taller but less facially attractive friends.
I know for certain that I'd rather be short with a handsome face then tall and ugly 100%.

 

[shookwun]

Thank you. At least you two are talking some sense . People are taking some comments made by some self important, immature brats in an article and using it to justify some generalisation that all women find short men unattractive. Some women probably do prefer tall men if they had a choice but as shookwun said shortness alone isn't a deal breaker and I'm proof of that. Put it this way; I'm 5.5 but get more female attention and sexy time then my taller but less facially attractive friends.
I know for certain that I'd rather be short with a handsome face then tall and ugly 100%.

Ye but you stack balding on your 5'5 stature and you are finished.


Way to short. 5'7 is like the breaking point, anything below and you're fucked.


What's your Norwood? Better hope it doesn't go passed a nw4

 

[Funkymonk1]

But they wouldn't choose you as a boyfriend. Which explains why you're not talking about having a girlfriend here.

Let's be realistic here, most girls are not going to be able to handle the pressure from her family and peers if she brings home a guy who is shorter than her.

Sure it works for one night stands. Why would it matter? She finds you hot and compatible with her, then she'll never have to see you again.

My current girlfriend slept with a guy who was shorter than her. She said she would never have been able to have a relationship with him.

And yes, the shortness was the deal-breaker.

Being tall isn't just an advantage with women. Apparently tall men earn more money and are more successful in general.

I'm sorry but there was a lot of coping around here, it was time to bring back some reality and common sense in this thread.

It's OK though, even though I'm tall, I'm barely above average facially and I'm half-bald, can't have everything in life (unless you're very lucky).

Just remain realistic and stop with this "it doesn't mean anything!" talk, it's painful to read. Of course it does.

I wasn't saying it doesn't mean anything I was saying shortness on its own wasn't everything. I think I'm pretty realistic and self aware (even if my last post may have come across as a bit vain or arrogant). I agree, you can't have everything and like you I'm aware that I'm not perfect but I'm ok with what I've got. Being short genuinely has never bothered me and again we're possibly generalising again if we assume all women wouldn't see a guy as boyfriend material just because he's short. If a girl is that shallow then frankly I wouldn't see her as girlfriend material either.

 

[Funkymonk1]

Ye but you stack balding on your 5'5 stature and you are finished.


Way to short. 5'7 is like the breaking point, anything below and you're fucked.


What's your Norwood? Better hope it doesn't go passed a nw4

I do agree that shortness and baldness together is a death sentence, why do you think I'm on finasteride ? If that ever happened I may as well run away with the circus and get a job as part of a freak show lol!
Oh, and I'm a Norwood 2.5 maybe 3 but the parts that arn't thinning are thick enough to give good coverage. I wouldn't like it to get any worse.

 

[resu]

Being short means not fitting well in clothes and having to buy clothes in kids sizes, others thinking less of you and treating you with less respect, being infantilized, people thinking you are a teen, always feeling inferior, can't work in various jobs (security, police, etc). There's a serious slash of liberty and freedom, the most successful people are the ones who have the most options, a tall guy has a lot of options by default, a short guy has to work much harder to have the same options or be very lucky.

Being short, by default, took many opportunities from you, even if you didn't realize it.