Your not balding until Norwood 3

[ACT10Npack]

I been reading a booklet about hair transplanet from a doctor that does it. This is the doctor that gave me Propecia. Anyway, in the booklet is says that your not balding until your at Norwood 3. Also there are a lot of people that loss some of there frontal hair at a point where they hit a mature hairline and does not loss anymore hairs for years. I just wanna to point that information about to you guys.

 

[Matgallis]

nopt balding but soon to be... how can he compare this to diffuse thinners? this doctor is an idiot.

 

[ACT10Npack]

I think your don't understand what it means. Because a mature hairline is around a Norwood 2, a lot of people that they think there balding is not just lossing hair until they hit there mature hairline and they stop losing hair for a long time. I didn't go in too much detail because I thought that was enough information for what he is saying. Also guys when there in there teens they have a low hairline but when they get older their hairline is high but it does not look like there bald. Which means that just because your lossing hair and your at Norwood 2 does not mean your going to bald. Which is one of the reason why he does not do hair transplanet until you hit Norwood 3. He is one of the best in hair transplanet.

 

[vwsimple]

I think your don't understand what it means. Because a mature hairline is around a Norwood 2, a lot of people that they think there balding is not just lossing hair until they hit there mature hairline and they stop losing hair for a long time. I didn't go in too much detail because I thought that was enough information for what he is saying. Also guys when there in there teens they have a low hairline but when they get older their hairline is high but it does not look like there bald. Which means that just because your lossing hair and your at Norwood 2 does not mean your going to bald. Which is one of the reason why he does not do hair transplanet until you hit Norwood 3. He is one of the best in hair transplanet.

very good points actionpack. its important for people to recognize this stuff too.

 

[socks]

Because a mature hairline is around a Norwood 2, a lot of people that they think there balding is not just lossing hair until they hit there mature hairline and they stop losing hair for a long time.

They’re a few considerations though.

1. Not everyone progresses perfectly according to Norwood :wink:

Some guys start to recede both in the temples and the crown. Some men start in the crown VS the temples. Some men have diffused thinning. The list goes on and on.

2. Waiting until you hit NW3 to start a maintenance program isnt a smart play in my book. You want to start as early as possible. Since most men experience some form of Androgenetic Alopecia in their lifetimes it actually makes sense for men to jump in Finasteride as soon as they notice any signs thereof.

Which is one of the reason why he does not do hair transplanet until you hit Norwood 3.

The main reasons why any reputable hair Doctor wont do a transplant at NW2 is because there is likely to be more recession down the road. Trying to keep a full juvenile hairline through out adulthood is likely impossible with the available donor area.



I think though action brought up a good point though. I believe I brought up the same issue on another board myself.

However, I hesitate to tell a guy to hold off on treatments until NW3... By then it may be too late.

My final thought is as soon as you see your hair receding you ought to get right on Finasteride so as to give yourself the best possible chance to halt any further loss or to buy as much time as possible before it becomes cosmetically noticeable.

 

[ACT10Npack]

The doctor was not talking about starting to take propecia or any type of hair loss product. He was talking about getting hair transplanet done. That should not get one until you are not norwood 3.

 

[socks]

Correct. In so far as the drugs, I was not addressing something you directly said but rather what such a statement could have implied (if you're not balding until NW3 then you shouldnt be on drugs since the drugs are only for balding men)

As far as addressing you directly, it isnt that hair transplant docs dont do NW2 because they might not loose any more hair, it is because they likely will loose more hair and that they wouldnt be able to fill in an entire head of hair that extends to a juvenile hairline with the available donor hair

 

[elguapo]

I think this is a pretty good thread, too. Action has a point. It's just funny how we watched movies, for example, in which some actors were losing their hairline, and we didn't even notice, not one iota, until we ourselves realized that we were losing hair.

It's just strange that when you see an older guy with a receding hairline, it looks normal.

Good points all around on this topic.

 

[ACT10Npack]

Very truth elguapo, although I see older people with no or very little hair loss, it seem weird to see them with a lot of hair. More so if the hair is really thick and puff. John Kerry looks a little weird with a full thick hair. Although, I think he is a very ugly man. I would rather have George W Bush's hair loss and looks than John Kenny no hair loss and looks. But thats mean.

 

[asolof]

I think this is an important point. I'm 53 years old and I have gradually been losing hair up until the past 2 to 3 years and since then it has been accelerating. In retrospect I would have preferred to have started treatment perhaps 3 years ago; not 33 years ago when the process started, but was mild and VERY slowly progressive.

If an 18 year old adolescent is beginning to lose a little hair, should he immediately commit himself to 70 years of finasteride?? I think some judgement needs to be exercised in when treatment is begun, considering the extent of the hairloss, rate of progression, age of the person,the treatments being considered, and the fact that treatment success may be defined by only halting the progression of the baldness.

 

[Axon]

Agreed. However, if you're a Norwood 2V, you really are balding.

 

[Guest]

asolof, did you loose the chest hair after you started propecia or has it always been thin there?

 

[JJ Gittes]

asolof: have you enjoyed success thus far using finasteride and minoxidil?

 

[asolof]

tynanW

LOL!


JJ Gites

See my post on Peach Fuzz.

 

[Guest]

My final thought is as soon as you see your hair receding you ought to get right on Finasteride so as to give yourself the best possible chance to halt any further loss or to buy as much time as possible before it becomes cosmetically noticeable.

Up to 96% of men and 79% of women reach at least hair loss stage two on the Norwood scale after full pubertal sexual maturation, so there is wisdom in the idea that starting a lifetime of hormonal manipulation at the first sniff of a receding hairline is perhaps not the best idea.

 

[socks]

Up to 96% of men and 79% of women reach at least hair loss stage two on the Norwood scale after full pubertal sexual maturation, so there is wisdom in the idea that starting a lifetime of hormonal manipulation at the first sniff of a receding hairline is perhaps not the best idea.

Agreed. As I said, I have posted a message similar to what action is saying here.

However, most men (I would wager almost every man) is going to develop some degree of Androgenetic Alopecia sometime in their lives. The thing is, most men wait till it is too late... They wait till they are a NW4 and then expect meds to bring them back to a NW1 or NW2. As we all know here it doesnt work that way.

Since it is my personal opinion Finasteride is exceptionally safe for a mature male to take my attitude is to just get on it as soon as you notice any hairloss. True, you might take Finasteride when you really dont need it for a few yrs but down the road it helps to ensure you stay in tip-top shape...

Hell, maybe if you take the Finasteride before you get any hairloss it will prevent the process from even starting?

Personally, I think (as sad as it is) we live in an imagine intensive society that worships youthfulness and demeans the aged (or any sign thereof). To get ahead you not only got to be smart you got to look good. I would go so far to say that college is to your mind what Propecia is for your hair.

Just my two cents

 

[Bob_Marley]

sh*t, When I f*****g hit a nw3, I'm going to either kill myself or get a transplant like nobody's biznazz.

Peace

 

[kiwi1973]

this is a great post,and it brings up some very good points i am surpized
no one has brought it up before

i am sure there are a lot of young guys who start propecia when they get a mature hairline, and becouse they hair wasnt going to recide any more any way they think the drugs have stoped the hairloss and they waste 1000's of dollars on drugs and mess with there hormones for nothing

 

[Hpower]

This is a great post...I'm stuck on the same question... if i'm a N1-2,
if I stop treatment now...how bad will the loss be?

 

[kiwi1973]

This is a great post...I'm stuck on the same question... if i'm a N1-2,
if I stop treatment now...how bad will the loss be?

thats realy hard to say, the best thing to do would be to look at hairloss in men in your family(older brothers,dad unlces grandfathers)
if most the men in you family are only a Norwood 2 or 3 then it likey that you will only get a reciding hairline like them reather then a Norwood 7
but this is only a guess