hoping 2016 is my final year with this

[yetti]

so getting married is also a pretty bad idea

Very bleak.

I doubt that men are now MORE interested in sex than they used to be, nor is staring at phone screens increasing the amount of sex, LOL. Here's proof
http://www.scpr.org/programs/take-two/2015/07/23/43799/american-teens-are-having-much-less-sex/

note that in the photo accompanying the article, everyone is staring at... their phones

 

[shookwun]

Overwhelming majority of people are constantly on social media which also involves dating applications. Most my Co workers are always swiping right at a chance to even get a Whif of some pussy let alone get laid. Do you think women are no different?

These apps for women are fun, at the same time they get to fool around and find something worth while. To the point where it's like a game.

They ain't playing snake I can assure you

 

[yetti]

Many are using it for snake. Snake and maybe p**rn. And they don't have much practice relating with other actual human beings. So while some people are obviously using Tinder and similar programs to hook up, as a whole there's a lot less hooking up than there used to be. And that's a fact, Donald.

 

[big_head]

Very bleak.

Well it's the reality. There are too many risks for a man to get married nowadays and no rewards.

I doubt that men are now MORE interested in sex than they used to be, nor is staring at phone screens increasing the amount of sex, LOL. Here's proof
http://www.scpr.org/programs/take-two/2015/07/23/43799/american-teens-are-having-much-less-sex/

note that in the photo accompanying the article, everyone is staring at... their phones

LOL gimmie a break...some silly clickbait survey...yeah it's the damn phones!!! How many girls do you think refused to tell the truth on that survey?

Talk to a girl in her 20s that you're banging. They will open up about how slutty they are, especially in a big city. Women get on Tinder or OKCupid and find "guys to ****" or "try out". This isn't made up and it's not just "sl*ts", it's virtually every girl in her 20s, even the "Sweet" "shy" ones. I know because I've seen their true nature.

I'm not making some kind of bitter judgement, I am just saying the vast majority of girls today are taught that sex with strangers is not only OK, but is the best thing to do in their 20s. And women can get sex like tap water and they can get sex with a much more attractive man than them. And they are ****ing lots of these men. Then you, the balding "nice guy" gets to put a ring on it at the end of it all. Wow! Cool! 6'2" guy with a full head of hair does not need to commit with a 4000 dollar diamond ring to get sex. He just hit her up on Tinder. But a balding guy? He has to pony up some cash.

Bleak? Yes. But also reality.

 

[shookwun]

Well it's the reality. There are too many risks for a man to get married nowadays and no rewards.



LOL gimmie a break...some silly clickbait survey...yeah it's the damn phones!!! How many girls do you think refused to tell the truth on that survey?

Talk to a girl in her 20s that you're banging. They will open up about how slutty they are, especially in a big city. Women get on Tinder or OKCupid and find "guys to ****" or "try out". This isn't made up and it's not just "sl*ts", it's virtually every girl in her 20s, even the "Sweet" "shy" ones. I know because I've seen their true nature.

I'm not making some kind of bitter judgement, I am just saying the vast majority of girls today are taught that sex with strangers is not only OK, but is the best thing to do in their 20s. And women can get sex like tap water and they can get sex with a much more attractive man than them. And they are ****ing lots of these men. Then you, the balding "nice guy" gets to put a ring on it at the end of it all. Wow! Cool! 6'2" guy with a full head of hair does not need to commit with a 4000 dollar diamond ring to get sex. He just hit her up on Tinder. But a balding guy? He has to pony up some cash.

Bleak? Yes. But also reality.

You will also find in the big city a lot bigger of a percentage of women are single, actively dating and taking dick on the side.


I actually just recently had a discussion with my ex a few days ago about this. the difference is night and day from a big city (toronto, New York) to out west in the oil sands. Seems like a common trend for bigger cities having more singles, and less populated areas being ridden full of relationships. Literally everyone out here in this small city/town is in a long term relationship.



Dating applications that sync with facebook pretty much go hand-in-hand these days. Swipe swipe, match, and boom potential person to chat with, and meet up with. To the point where it's not even taboo, but automatically assumed if one has facebook they will have Tindr. granted many men will not be succesfull on these applications, and have to weed out hundreds of women which is reality. Dating online applications work in favour of women, not so much men unless you're in the elite aesthetic caliber. Average men will have a hard time, and it might even be more stressful then it is fun.

A lot of girls are doing this despite what people want to believe. Whatever helps ease their mind, and what their missing out on.


iv'e fiddled with online dating applications, and had success. I prefer meeting in person in such places like the gym, it's much easier. my last run on the dating app i had over 25+ numbers in a month or so, but only a hanful actually met up. Easier to snipe someone out in realife, and get together I find. But then again if you have **** social skills then online is the way to go, because at least you can get a lay in before she realizes how socially inept and predictable you are :laugh:

 

[big_head]

You will also find in the big city a lot bigger of a percentage of women are single, actively dating and taking dick on the side.

...............................

Dating online applications work in favour of women, not so much men unless you're in the elite aesthetic caliber. Average men will have a hard time, and it might even be more stressful then it is fun.

A lot of girls are doing this despite what people want to believe. Whatever helps ease their mind, and what their missing out on.

Yup. What you said about the city is especially true- competition and image are EVERYTHING. If you're below 6ft and balding, you are truly ****ed. And if you are Asian or Indian, you're double ****ed.

Tinder is a meat market for women. Men can't use "game" in this scenario, it boils down to "What do you look like and what are your stats?". Guys want to pretend only "skanks" use tinder, and it's simply not true. I've known plenty of "good girls" that surprised me by telling me how they were ****ing and dumping a new guy each week from Tinder, they were bragging about it. To women, sex is just a game in their 20s. Tinder is a playground.

I've also had "shy girls" I had just met 30 minutes earlier say the dirtiest thins to me with a bit of prodding. The types of girls that are frankly dumpy and average and bookish. The ones guys eventually marry. Sorry, but those girls are also ****ing complete strangers because those men look good and come onto them aggressively. I never knew this until around my mid 20s when I got in shape, grew a beard and suddenly went up a tier in attractiveness. Girls would not tell me these things before. Once I realized how it went, it became very easy to see through the BS. Once I knew a girl liked me, I could say anything dirty or sexual and the most depraved stuff would start pouring out of her. Asking for all sorts of aggressive, kinky stuff when 2 hours before she was so sweet and nice and reserved. Now, I'm nothing special, some girls have just found me attractive. I am not one of the guys that clean up on Tinder- the 8s, 9s or 10s that women go nuts over. And no bitterness towards the dudes- can't hate on a guy who is utilizing his genetics. But I'm just sick of guys keeping the myths alive.

The problem, as you said, is that the average guy really doesn't know this is happening or he simply does not want to believe it. Neither does the average girl!

The average guy of course puts women on a pedestal. He thinks most women don't want to **** a hot guy in a club bathroom. His sweetheart never ever did those things...she never had a threesome, never made sex videos with her well endowed F-Buddy, never banged a total stranger in a bathroom stall in Europe with no protection. In his mind, none of this ever could have happened with his girl. But the average girl is JUST AS HORNY as the average guy, and just like the average guy, she thinks with her genitals first. Her genitals just have higher standards and more options. And because sex literally comes to her, it's so much easier to indulge.

The average girl thinks the average guy gets sex just like they do. I had a girl tell me once that women "approach" guys all the time. He example? Girls will smile at a guy from across the bar. She was dead serious. She also told me the average guy gets sex just as easy as the average girl. They really don't equate sex with effort at all. They can't comprehend it. Even fat, ugly girls are very choosey about guys, and even they get tons of messages on Tinder or OKCupid from men who are objectively better looking than them.

 

[yetti]

LOL gimmie a break...some silly clickbait survey...yeah it's the damn phones!!! How many girls do you think refused to tell the truth on that survey?

Dude, yeah, it's a silly little "clickbait" organization called... the CDC. The Centers for Disease Control. They did the study, it's the same study they've done for decades, and it doesn't get more accurate than that. I don't think girls decided this year for some reason to lie to the CDC for the first time. Girls are having sex less often than they used to, not more, it's a sociological fact and a certainty. Believe what you want.

Perhaps I shouldn't butt into these "everything sucks" ... "that's right everything sucks" ... "girls are sluttier than they've ever been and so mean" sessions with actual facts, as commiserating with peers has value, but facts have value as well.

 

[big_head]

Dude, yeah, it's a silly little "clickbait" organization called... the CDC. The Centers for Disease Control. They did the study, it's the same study they've done for decades, and it doesn't get more accurate than that. I don't think girls decided this year for some reason to lie to the CDC for the first time. Girls are having sex less often than they used to, not more, it's a sociological fact and a certainty. Believe what you want.

Perhaps I shouldn't butt into these "everything sucks" ... "that's right everything sucks" ... "girls are sluttier than they've ever been and so mean" sessions with actual facts, as commiserating with peers has value, but facts have value as well.

Women are going on Tinder to meet nice guys who will be good friends.

 

[yetti]

Women are going on Tinder to meet nice guys who will be good friends.

No, they are going on Tinder to meet guys and maybe have sex. But clearly not everyone is doing it, because the amount of sex people are having is going down, not up. And furthermore the divorce rate has been falling for 20 years, not rising. What this means is that in fact there's never been a better time to get married, which is the polar opposite of your bleak "There are too many risks for a man to get married nowadays and no rewards." That was more true in the 70s and 80s, when people had more sex with more partners, and got divorced more frequently than today. The country is becoming more conservative, not less, as regards sex and marriage. Anyone with a cursory knowledge of sociological trends knows this. One can debate about why (as people do with the crime rate, which has also fallen a great deal since the 70s and 80s), but not that it's happening.

 

[big_head]

The country is becoming more conservative, not less, as regards sex and marriage.

 

[yetti]

Dude can copy and paste a gif of michael jordan but cannot understand simple, widely known and discussed statistics. It's like having a conversation with a 6 year old. I don't know why you'd prefer to stay ignorant rather than learn something, but OOOOK kiddo you win

PS (for any adults who are interested)

CDC data released Wednesday show dramatic decreases in teen sexual activity since 1988, when the rate was 22 percent higher among males and 14 percent higher among females.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/da...-declines-in-teen-sexual-activity-pregnancies

Divorce has fallen since 1990 in every one of the 44 states that report such data.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/upshot/how-we-know-the-divorce-rate-is-falling.html

 

[davidpaul]

good

very good head.,,,man