My Multi-approach Natural Treatment To Treat My Hair Loss

[MrTambourine]

Ok, Stemoxydine makes sh*t, but smells amazing!

I just prepared another batch (2 pills, diluted in ~20-25ml, supposed to last for 5 days), put first one in scalp, and it smell absolutely delicious! It's a blessing to smell that good every time you put finas on your scalp and maybe it will create positive association finas=good and so I don't get sides a man can dream

 

[MrTambourine]

Hey guys!

So it's been 2 months with topical finasteride (5.5 months with minoxidil) and felt I should make an update.


My shedding has almost completely or completely stopped. I think I am very slowly gaining back some hairs. I can appreciate a little bit of regrowth, but seems to be a veeery slow process. Lots of baby hairs in the temples. It's not something spectacular, but I think if you pay some attention you can clearly notice some difference with how I was right before starting minoxidil last november. Next post will come with some pics.

So basically little after starting topical finas I "felt" I didn't need my homemade serum anymore. So I stopped applying it.

Things have been well since then. About 2 weeks ago, I stopped applying finas for 2 days, and on the third day some itch appeared. Sometimes my hair is a little bit itchy, especially on the back part, but I think that's just because, unlike with the serum, I tend to concentrate the topical finas on the hairline (my idea is I want as much finas as possible on the follicles that matter the most while keeping the least possible goin into my blood stream, not sure if it makes sense).

Shedding has been very minimal. It has been like the first month with minoxidil after the initial shedding, when I was shedding zero hairs, so now maybe not zero but very very close to zero, really.

My hair feels "healthy". It feels kind of okay. Cannot explain better. Less greasy overall, too.


Sexual side effects: none that I have noticed. Libido is high as last months, erections are the same.
Mental side effects: my cognition seems to be the same haha not sure about depression, but that might be the quarantine lol
I haven't felt any physical side effects.


So everything is good. Will continue with topical finas and eventually (probably when I finish the next 2 bottles of Regaine that I still have, 3.5 have lasted 5.5 months, so I'm not using a lot anyways) will slowly look into quitting minoxidil. Will be careful, though. minoxidil might be doing a lot of effect, and I still don't know for sure how good topical finas has been. I have already reduced to about 1ml per day minoxidil, just apply on the hairline and not much further.

If no further sides appear, I will continue topical finas lifetime, and hopefully won't have to apply minoxidil or anything else in the future, just topical finasteride once a day, which by the way is much cleaner to apply than minoxidil.

So my current treatment as of right now is:

-Topical finas everyday, about 0.5mg pill crushed into Stemoxydine, focusing mainly on the hairline. I use microneedling Derminator 0.25mm right before applying. I usually crush 3-4 pills into 15-20ml Stemoxydine (I try to save on stemoxydine, this sh*t is expensive), and that's good for a week.
-Topical minoxidil, about 1ml, focusing mainly on the hairline.
-Hair restoration laboratories shampoo, often, maybe 3-4 times a week. Once a week I add some keto 1% shampoo.

I have also stopped the Derminator 1.5mm sessions in the last month or month and a half, but that's just my laziness from the quarantine lol I will eventually come back.

I won't encourage anyone (esp on this subforum) to use topical finasteride, but I will just advice to keep an open mind and to take a close look at the studies. To the best of my knowledge, no sexual side effects whatsoever were found in any of the studies. And I'm the biggest hater of "Big pharma", but the fact that you can find some 5mg generic finasteride for about 10€ for 30 5mg pills, which is enough supply for almost a full year, is something. Not because of the money, but I wish I would come back to last June when I started researching and started directly applying topical finas.

Alright, hope this might be helpful for some, I will be back in a few weeks and post some pics and continue to update on my progress. Still not in the clear about sides (2 months only, after all), still applying 0.5mg per day or less, still somewhat worried that they will eventually appear, but promising results so far!

 

[platelets]

I might try topical finasteride. currently on Zix and adenosin for 7 months. Have you tried liposomal topical finasteride? i hear it has less systemic abosorption.

 

[sonictemples]

Dermarolling with 0.5 mg sounds like it will have similar consequences to oral 1 mg. Great that you are doing well on it though!

 

[sonictemples]

I might try topical finasteride. currently on Zix and adenosin for 7 months. Have you tried liposomal topical finasteride? i hear it has less systemic abosorption.

Any benefits from Zix+Adenosin?

 

[MrTambourine]

I might try topical finasteride. currently on Zix and adenosin for 7 months. Have you tried liposomal topical finasteride? i hear it has less systemic abosorption.

I have just done it, and it looks like it might be a good vehicle for finas? I'm very interested in hearing more about it, where can I get it, etc... Serioxyl seems to be doing a good job at least as solvent, but it's very expensive for what it really does, so I am very interested in hearing more!

I tried zix for a short time, and in my homemade topical I usually included Zinc sulfate, I just stopped doing it out of laziness I guess lol because somehow I felt I didn't need the topical anymore (I was shedding very little, my head wasn't itchy at all and felt healthy overall). I hope you're doing well with Zix+adenosine!

Dermarolling with 0.5 mg sounds like it will have similar consequences to oral 1 mg. Great that you are doing well on it though!

Well, I just went with this logic: people dermaroll 0.25-0.5mm for Minoxidil better absorption in the skin (while not going into the blood stream), and that minoxidil can cause real problems if it goes systemic, so I figured out the same would apply for finas and if I just dermarolled 0.25mm or 0.5mm I would be safe. Thanks! So far going well

 

[MrTambourine]

2 years have passed!

My hair has been great for 2 years, haven't lost much. But this year I stopped serioxyl + finas for some reason and I have lost a little bit. I stopped for about 6 months. Have kept Minoxidil, oh also in that period stopped minoxidil too for about 2 months big mistake.

So I can confirm topical minoxidil + topical finas works! No side effects also, gonna go back to minoxidil + serioxyl/finas and add some 0.25mm dermaroling!

Good luck all.

 

[salmons]

Hey again!

Yes I've used caffeine like capsules (not pills) teared open. I guess caffeine is caffeine? If you have more info I'm all ears!

Can't say the caffeine is doing anything or not, the only thing in the serum that I can actually feel doing something is the Peppermint oil. The rest clearly is making some effect, as it is definitely helping a lot with itching and my hair always felt good when using it consistently. The month I stopped using it I sheded way more, actually I was looking at some pics from late November, just before starting minoxidil, and it already looked super bad haha so I lost some ground in that 6 weeks from last update and diminishing in use of basically all parts of my treatment.


Now about the serum and by the way, I have used about the same quantity on each component, so my serum is the same, only now I dilute it into more water and I think it doesn't leave the scalp too dryish or feeling "bad", and I don't even need to wash it much, just some water a few hours later maybe. That's also the problem I had with Zix, it left my scalp too dry. I have also added from time to time B6 and zinc in the serum, but not always, the ones I have always used have been reishi mushroom, saw palmetto and caffeine. They have decent literature behind and didn't leave my scalp "bad".

Last days I can even see bigger difference, and I think I'm already better than first pics in May/June, I will go on holidays for a couple weeks and after I will make some pics and also will likely start with topical finas.

Also, final note, I remain convinced there's gotta be a natural solution, even though I went towards big pharma haha. Topical, natural DHT blockers have to be the way to go until a total cure comes up! Who knows, after all maybe the topical saw palmetto and reishi mushroom extract are actually doing something

Thanks for reading!

sounds like you've really fine-tuned your serum routine! The mix of reishi mushroom and saw palmetto is super interesting there’s definitely some promising research on their potential benefits for hair and scalp health. Mushrooms in general have so many fascinating properties!

 

[Dr Nicholas Sadgrove]

I just want to add to the comment above.
I'm a natural products chemist and I have noticed that companies don't always do us justice when selling us products.
The types of extracts they use might not have been prepared using the method needed.
Some methods will catch the important ingredients (molecules) while other methods might not.
As an example, the Reishi mushroom is probably most beneficial if eaten. This is because it contains not only useful metabolites that are instantly absorbed, but the digestion of the mushroom fiber stimulates liver function, and the liver is fundamental to aid with balancing DHT levels.
You see the body seeks to create a balance of DHT and when the liver gets stressed, DHT levels can exceed the normal balanced level.
So by nurturing the liver, the levels of DHT can actually be lowered naturally.
This might possibly be also how saw palmetto works.

 

[SnortingFin]

I just want to add to the comment above.
I'm a natural products chemist and I have noticed that companies don't always do us justice when selling us products.
The types of extracts they use might not have been prepared using the method needed.
Some methods will catch the important ingredients (molecules) while other methods might not.
As an example, the Reishi mushroom is probably most beneficial if eaten. This is because it contains not only useful metabolites that are instantly absorbed, but the digestion of the mushroom fiber stimulates liver function, and the liver is fundamental to aid with balancing DHT levels.
You see the body seeks to create a balance of DHT and when the liver gets stressed, DHT levels can exceed the normal balanced level.
So by nurturing the liver, the levels of DHT can actually be lowered naturally.
This might possibly be also how saw palmetto works.

So we should just supplement TUDCA to reverse hairloss?