Baldness prevalence in young people

[phish]

Onset of puberty is one thing, but I've never seen any anthropometric studies comparing, say, the proportion of 25 year old males balding in 1960 with the proportion of 25 yr old males balding today.

That kinda thing would probably never ever have been studied in the 1960s.

thats true, that and its common sense the earlier men hit puberty the earlier they are gona lose their hair if their prone to it. puberty is where males testerone levels and dht start to go through the roof.

 

[Doug Douglas]

Maybe I just notice it more now, but around my law school where the average student's age is around 26, I notice a TON of balding guys.

Which law school do you go to, by the by?

 

[Pondle]

Onset of puberty is one thing, but I've never seen any anthropometric studies comparing, say, the proportion of 25 year old males balding in 1960 with the proportion of 25 yr old males balding today.

That kinda thing would probably never ever have been studied in the 1960s.

thats true, that and its common sense the earlier men hit puberty the earlier they are gona lose their hair if their prone to it. puberty is where males testerone levels and dht start to go through the roof.

I don't know why you say it wouldn't have been studied in the 60s. Hamilton's study Male pattern hair loss in man: types and incidence was published in 1951. He was the guy responsible for the claim that by age 30, 30% of white men exhibit male pattern baldness, whereas by age 50, 50% do.

I take your point about the earlier onset of puberty, but there's not a straightforward relationship between puberty and the onset of hair loss - except for the fact that male pattern baldness usually begins after it! I mean, just look at the Hamilton figures; obviously almost all 30 year-olds have gone through puberty but 70% are still unaffected by male pattern baldness, according to him. In my personal case, there was at least a decade between puberty and the start of noticeable hair loss. And the rate is extremely variable with some men taking 5 yrs to reach Norwood 7 and others taking more than 20 years to get to the same level.

 

[barcafan]

we're probably living much much shittier lifestyles now with all this technology and diet, so im sure that at least contributes to it in one way or another.

 

[the Last Fight]

I think its many factors, stress, poor diet etc that have an effect not only on hair loss but ones health in general, for example just look at rate at which diabetes is growing ...

 

[abcdefg]

Men do not have to nor should they feel obligated to treat hairloss. Its a purely cosmetic thing as much as we want to have it mean more in comparison to cancer its a little less serious a disease. I think with propecia and rogain the only 2 legitimate treatments and there life long use not using anything is also a pretty smart choice. Both treatments are very expensive, pretty barbaric in how they work, and used for a lifetime. Results arent fantastic, and even people it works for lose hair anyways eventually. Once your hormone levels are changed whos to say what will happen. If you choose to treat it fine. But lets not bad mouth or criticize men that arent here to defend themselves because its a perfectly fine choice to not do anything.

 

[phish]

Men do not have to nor should they feel obligated to treat hairloss. Its a purely cosmetic thing as much as we want to have it mean more in comparison to cancer its a little less serious a disease. I think with propecia and rogain the only 2 legitimate treatments and there life long use not using anything is also a pretty smart choice. Both treatments are very expensive, pretty barbaric in how they work, and used for a lifetime. Results arent fantastic, and even people it works for lose hair anyways eventually. Once your hormone levels are changed whos to say what will happen. If you choose to treat it fine. But lets not bad mouth or criticize men that arent here to defend themselves because its a perfectly fine choice to not do anything.

propecia and rogaine are really not expensive anymore, i can get generic propecia year supply for 40 dollars and rogaine kirkland generic for 6 months supply for only 17 bucs.

 

[tembo]

This is such a coincidence. I was about to post a new topic today about how today, one of the hairdressers at my salon who was cutting someone else's hair mentioned a 17 year old who used to come and does not anymore because he is balding and shaved his head. She also said that more and more young people are balding these days!

The study of the eight year old girls getting puberty is here:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... eMain/home

 

[IHateIt]

Of all men I know at my age, i'm the only balding. So, I feel pretty unlucky.

But yes, I think people are starting to go bald younger.
Also, girls are having women bodies a lot younger.

I guess some environmental thing is making us go older young! :freaked:

 

[RaginDemon]

Of all men I know at my age, i'm the only balding. So, I feel pretty unlucky.

But yes, I think people are starting to go bald younger.
Also, girls are having women bodies a lot younger.

I guess some environmental thing is making us go older young! :freaked:

yeah girls turn into sl*ts so young nowadays.

 

[slowburn]

Of all men I know at my age, i'm the only balding. So, I feel pretty unlucky.

But yes, I think people are starting to go bald younger.
Also, girls are having women bodies a lot younger.

I guess some environmental thing is making us go older young! :freaked:

yeah girls turn into sl*ts so young nowadays.

Is this a bad thing? :jackit:

 

[slowburn]

In regards to this topic, I do believe our diet plays a part in it. I for one am guilty for having some bad eating habits through childhood and into adult life but I also believe that it is in our genes. If we are susceptible to baldness of any kind in our dna I think we are SOL no matter what. That being said if we choose to lead an unhealthy lifestyle I think we speed up the aging process which in turn speeds up the hair loss process. Dr. Oz from Oprah's show, stated there are people out in the world who are a certain age in years but biologically they are older because of poor lifestyle choices whether eating habits or lack of physical activity or smoking or drinking, etc...I believe this to be true, I am trying to change my ways but once something becomes habitual it's hard to do a complete 360 and say ok I am now this and break those habits. One need only look at the numerous athletes who lead healthy lifestyles, they all seem to have every hair in tact, look at hockey players. And then there are actors who are in their mid 30's and don't look a day over 25 take a look at guys like Jared Leto, Corey Feldman, Vida Guerra, Alison Lohman, I'm sure you can spot a pile of others. I wonder if living a vegan lifestyle is the true fountain of youth, I mean how else can people in their mid 30's, early 40's continue to look like they are in their 20's? It's unreal and it feels like I missed the boat on information that would have been extremely beneficial to me and my life.

 

[s.a.f]

I've had a healthy life never ate junk food while growing up got plenty of excercise, never smoked or did drugs. And yet I experienced very early and very agressive m.p.b. I believe its 99% genetics.

 

[slowburn]

I've had a healthy life never ate junk food while growing up got plenty of excercise, never smoked or did drugs. And yet I experienced very early and very agressive m.p.b. I believe its 99% genetics.

Were there ever any periods in your life where there was heavy stress on your body or mind?

 

[s.a.f]

No real stress. People nowadays dont know what real stress is. :roll:

 

[slowburn]

No real stress. People nowadays dont know what real stress is. :roll:

If you are ill or have some sort of disease your body could be heavily stressed and therefore cause deficiencies in other parts of your body. ie hair loss.

 

[abcdefg]

Very true. The above poster lived healthy when young and has bad male pattern baldness. What more proof is there that its not about diet. Its completely genetic and other factors such as androgens that increase naturally throughout most mens lives just at different rates for different people. Some men have much higher androgen levels at younger ages then other men or are more sensitive to what androgens they do have. Its not something controllable through say diet to any significant degree science knows this already but people keep whining about it.

 

[ps1freak]

I rarely ever see bald asian guys. Of course I've seen the nw6 on an asian, but that was like...1 out of 30 asian guys i've come across.

I grew up with a lot of other asians, and even tho I am a Norwood 2, it's the worst out of all my friends. None of them lost their juvenile hairline, and we are all 24-27 yrs old.

The same goes with hispanics.

As well as African AMERICANS. I noticed the doodes who come straight from Africa - a lothav ereceded hairlines. Maybe it's jus my experience.

And of course caucasians, I swear like 1/3 is losing hair.

 

[phish]

the argument really was not about wether or not gentics plays a role, male pattern baldness is prob 99 genetic, but what the argument atleast for me is that the lifestyle in the past 20 years or so in america has caused puberty to start ealier in kids. Thats not some random opnion its a fact that every decade kids have been hitting puberty earlier and earlier. Now when you start puberty at 10 instead of 14, thats 4 more years ealier that male pattern baldness is going to attack you. so if your gentics have u starting to bald at 22 or 26 you will start 4 years earlier. Thats why you see many guys in their mid 20s having hairlines of 30 year olds. there have been cases recently where girls are starting puberty as early as 8 years old!

 

[docj077]

the argument really was not about wether or not gentics plays a role, male pattern baldness is prob 99 genetic, but what the argument atleast for me is that the lifestyle in the past 20 years or so in america has caused puberty to start ealier in kids. Thats not some random opnion its a fact that every decade kids have been hitting puberty earlier and earlier. Now when you start puberty at 10 instead of 14, thats 4 more years ealier that male pattern baldness is going to attack you. so if your gentics have u starting to bald at 22 or 26 you will start 4 years earlier. Thats why you see many guys in their mid 20s having hairlines of 30 year olds. there have been cases recently where girls are starting puberty as early as 8 years old!

It isn't very safe to make such assumptions. Earlier and earlier onset of menarche and adrenarche are associated with numerous different variables including urban environment, socioeconomic status of their family, higher maternal education, better housing quality, exogenous estrogen exposure through foods and water, nutritional status, birth weight/length, temperature of the country of the individuals, exposure to smoke, alcohol, coffee, tea, and of course, the race of the individual. There are many, many others. It isn't just the dietary lifestyle that is the problem.