Day 1 on avodart.

[youngguy_uk]

Good luck Stingray.

I've been on avodart for almost 8 months (.5mg every 2nd day) and I'm happy with the results so far.

Be prepared for some new shedding though, I lost a chunk of hairline density about a month ago but thankfully new hairs are already sprouting.

Slarti

how can u tell new hairs r sprouting? could u please describe what this looks like. just wondering bcos i lost quite a lot of hair since i started propecia, am hoping its a shed and was wondering what im looking for if i c new hairs sprouting.

 

[Stingray]

I refuse to answer any of your questions until you can actually spell the god damned word out Youngguy. It looks so retarded when you use internet crap in posts. Rephrase your questions intelligently and I will answer.

Thanks.

 

[nomad]

I refuse to answer any of your questions until you can actually spell the god damned word out Youngguy. It looks so retarded when you use internet crap in posts. Rephrase your questions intelligently and I will answer.

Thanks.

el oh el! haha.

 

[Healthy Nick]

I refuse to answer any of your questions until you can actually spell the god damned word out Youngguy. It looks so retarded when you use internet crap in posts. Rephrase your questions intelligently and I will answer.

Thanks.

Thank you. We need more people to step up :lol:

 

[Slartibartfast]

Thanks for the support guys. I'm prepared for anything Slart. Nothing can really surprise me anymore heh. I went from awesome hair style to I can't do sh*t about it in literally a couple months last year... so yeah. Here goes nothing.

Hey Stingray, hopefully in a year's time the only thing that'll surprise you is how much better your hair looks. 8)

 

[youngguy_uk]

ok fine if you're going to be like that...

stingray: i also experienced drastic loss in the space of about 3-4 months, i.e. over 30% density. how long did this accelerated shedding last in your case? did it die down eventually? if so, after how long?

slartibartfast: how did you notice new hairs sprouting exactly? can you describe exactly what you saw that led you to this conclusion. it's just that ive gone through what i think is likely to be a shedding phase and want to know what to look out for.

thanks.

 

[Stingray]

That's much better youngin'. Thanks. The shedding eventually died down after about 3 months time due to starting up on my stuff. I've gone through cycles though. I've found that about every 3 months I'll go from a shedding phase to a calm phase, or vice versa. It's hard to tell how someone is going to react to things, so the best way to find out is by trial and error.

 

[youngguy_uk]

That's much better youngin'. Thanks. The shedding eventually died down after about 3 months time due to starting up on my stuff. I've gone through cycles though. I've found that about every 3 months I'll go from a shedding phase to a calm phase, or vice versa. It's hard to tell how someone is going to react to things, so the best way to find out is by trial and error.

i'm really freaking out at the moment because my hair has gotten so much thinner even since starting propecia 3 1/2 weeks ago. i've probably lost 10% density since then. does this sound like a shed you've been through? noticing more hairs on the pillow and hairs started coming out in my hands (didnt happen before). after your sheds, did your hair regrow thicker? can you please describe how this happens, anyone.

already without highlights i would look strangely bald for my age, and now even with them it's getting silly. the situation has definitely gotten worse since i started propecia. is there no way that propecia can actually make hairloss worse instead of being beneficial? if this type of loss occurs for much longer i'll be a wreck, it's already hard to cope sometimes now, it's gotten to that scary stage. and to think 3 months ago my hair actually looked good. even almost 1 month ago, when i started propecia..i'd be happy to have the hair i had then i guess. so i'm just hoping that propecia can regrow so i'll be at least at the stage i was at when i started the drug.

 

[Slartibartfast]

slartibartfast: how did you notice new hairs sprouting exactly? can you describe exactly what you saw that led you to this conclusion. it's just that ive gone through what i think is likely to be a shedding phase and want to know what to look out for.

thanks.

It's only possible to see the front of your hair well enough to watch this process, and this just happens to be the hardest area to get any regrowth on, but if you're lucky enough to get frontal growth (which Avodart and minoxidil have given me) here's what you'll see.

First off, I saw a loss of hair density as my old DHT affected hairs dropped out to make room for new, healthy ones. Then, after a week or two, I noticed some very small and light hairs in the areas I'd shedded from. This was followed by these tiny hairs falling out and being replaced by ones which grew slightly longer, thicker and darker but which have since come out and been replaced with hairs that are slightly longer, thicker and darker.

Hopefully this process will continue until eventually the hairs that regrow reach full length, thickness and colour, which I assume is the process that occurred to the hair on the rest of my head whilst I was using Finasteride and minoxidil.

Good luck,
Slarti

 

[nizoralad]

Avodart 3 times a week?

ASK A HAIR LOSS OR HAIR TRANSPLANT EXPERT
Dr. Alex A Khadavi, MD is a Board-Certified Dermatologist based in Los Angeles, California. Dr. Khadavi is the creator of Revivogen and is also Assistant Clinical Professor of Dermatology at the University of Southern California.
Dr. Khadavi studied medicine at George Washington University School of Medicine in Washington, DC and was a Resident in Dermatology at University of California, San Francisco. Dr. Khadavi is involved in research on novel skin cancer therapies, acne and hair loss.

MOST RECENTLY ANSWERED HAIR LOSS QUESTION Answered on 02/25/04
"Dear Dr. Alex A Khadavi, MD, Could you please tell me if Avodart, (0.5 mg) because it is a powerful dual 5 alpha-reductase inhibitor (types 1 and 2) might still be effective once or twice a week, or once a month? Cheers. "
Dr. Alex A Khadavi, MD answered: "Although Avodart is a powerful anti-DHT, there has been no study published to elucidate the number of times a week that an individual should use it. Based on the pharmacology of the medication, I think that it should be consumed at least 3 times a week."

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/qna/SingleE ... xpertID=19

 

[Chujgcha]

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[nizoralad]

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[Chujgcha]

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[Guest]

Youngguy. Propecia is not making you're hair worse. Obviously you have just started the balding process and you say that you noticed it about 3.5 months ago. Well that was the start of the shed. People shed hairs when they start balding, and left untreated, the follicals become weaker and thinner as they grow back after each shed. But with treatment, the hairs you lose should come back stronger with each shed. I mean if propecia was cauing you to lose so much hair, why not just quit and see if you stop losing hair. That ain't gonna happen.

 

[GourmetStyleWellness]

Re: Avodart 3 times a week?

Dr. Alex A Khadavi, MD is a Board-Certified Dermatologist. "Based on the pharmacology of the medication, I think that it should be consumed at least 3 times a week."

Dr. Edwin Epstein graduated Duke in 1972 and received his medical degree from Georgetown in 1977. He is Board Certified by the American Board of Hair Restoration Surgery, and the American Board of Urology.

"Glaxo presented the results from the Phase II studies about 3 yrs. ago in a closed session only to the investigators involved in the study. From what was presented, the dutasteride side effects were very similar to the finasteride side effects (5 mg) tested dose. Dutasteride's sexual side effects were in the range of 3-4% versus 1-2% for finasteride 1mg (Propecia) and 3-4% for finasteride 5mg (Proscar). The results of the phase II trials did show that 2.5 mg of Avodart gave nearly 2-3 times more hair growth than finasteride did at a full 5 mg, resulting even in frontal hair growth in some men. However, these superior results were at a rather high 2.5mg dosage.

Both Finasteride and Dutasteride have originated as Prostate medications, but Dutasteride's prostate dose is actually lower than the tested dose for hair loss. Glaxo seems to be doing the exact opposite of Merck in this sense. Finasteride worked better on the prostate at the higher dose (5mg - Proscar), and for hair at a lower dose (1mg - Propecia). Dutasteride was released for the prostate at the lower dose (Avodart - 0.5mg), and was tested with results on hair loss at 5 times the dose (2.5mg). The higher the dose, the more potential for side effects.

On the other hand, the good news is that due to the long duration of action, the optimal dosage frequency might be once weekly or even once monthly. However, the fact remains that there is no clinical data to look towards regarding less frequent dosage schedules, so we doctors, and our patients, will be on our own. The ideal patient may be the person who has used Propecia for extended periods of time and saw results with no side effects."

http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/newsletter/ ... le&sid=201

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[fro]

gourmetstylewellness.com,
What is your opinion on the possibility for neurological sides from 5-AR type inhibition by dutasteride, which is abundant in brain tissue. I'm considering the switch from finasteride to dutasteride, but am very concerned about the possibility for long term neurological sides.

 

[fro]

I'm sorry, 5-AR type 1 inhibition by dutasteride.

 

[Bryan]

my advice to you stingray, take avodart once a week (it's cheaper and it's still working much much stronger than propecia taken every day).

No it isn't. dutasteride at a level of 0.1 mg/day is virtually identical to finasteride (that would be an Avodart every 5 days). There's no way that a once-a-week Avodart would be "much much stronger" than Propecia.

Bryan

 

[nizoralad]

hi

Hi Bryan,

But Avodart has a longer half-life than Propecia. That could also be looked at as extended or time release. Wouldn't that still give Avodart an edge over Propecia even if it was every 5 days? Plus it's a dual DHT (type 1 and type 2) blocker.

Thanks.

 

[GourmetStyleWellness]

gourmetstylewellness.com, What is your opinion on the possibility for neurological sides from 5-AR type inhibition by dutasteride

Unfortunately, Im unqualified to answer this. I can say from personal experience that the abundance of DHT in various body tissues differs with each person, and while most guys experience no changes in said tissues with DHT inhibitor use, other guys like myself can literally feel the changes in genital and other various skin tissues. This would lead me to believe, purely on speculation, that an effect is possible in DHT bearing brain tissue.

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