A lot of the people on there are really pessimistic and rude. It's a horrible forum for advice. I have seen hair loss newbies go on there and get bombarded by delusional messages like "time is of the essence", "take propecia yesterday", "no pain, no gain", "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger". They try to apply these quotes onto hair loss treatments. Most of the stuff they say goes beyond broscience, although I admit they know a lot about the treatments. For example, the user pieman2005 who is in early 20s is on there posting update pictures with comb forwards and comb overs. I see users like murat and pieman2005 insult noobies (like ryukil) who think they may not be actually balding or insult people who are too scared to start finasteride. I don't like why there is so much hate on that forum. This forum is at least pleasant and has a more diverse group. Almost everyone on that forum is taking finasteride as a minimum. I have seen hunks on that site drink minoxidl and chew on sex changing anti-androgens. I'm glad I closed my account with that forum. It's like I am really walking toward the light after dropping finasteride as opposed to walking away from the light.