Does Someone Think That Cure Will Never Be Invented

Jnix

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Already available, bad for your skin very bad...

I thought of that before, but I read your skin rejects the implant or something. If they could perfect a permanent implantation technique someday though, that would be incredible.
 

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I thought of that before, but I read your skin rejects the implant or something. If they could perfect a permanent implantation technique someday though, that would be incredible.
The problem is the "plastic" or nearly anything that ain't suitable for your skin.

There is a thread about bioprinting hairs and L'Oréal is going to get this done in 3-5 years as they stated. Human cells or at least suitable implants could solve the problem, but still those things have to "live" somehow. Could be even worse for research than cloning, because it has to be engineerred somehow.
 

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Does anyone think that there will never be a cure because there is much products on the market and they would all go broke if someone invents a cure?

There are only two products on the market and probably greater than 90% of balding guys don't use them because they don't provide enough regrowth or they just don't take them because they believe hair is unimportant.

Merck and Rogaine don't give two shits about competition because they aren't making tons on their drugs as it is.

There is no hairloss Illuminati.
 

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Excuse me if someone else has already mentioned this but I was too lazy to read through everyone's post.

Finding a cure for androgenic hair loss is akin to finding a cure to stop any kind of hair pattern on a person. Such as making a girl's arm hair less hairy. Or stopping back hair from growing. Facial hair. Butt hair. Leg hair. It's in your DNA to develop a certain pattern. The only way to change that DNA is hormones. Whether it be dht related lactate related estrogen related etc. It's all hormonal in the the end.

A f to m sex change patient isn't going to grow beard hair without taking testosterone and other supplements.

The best thing that's available is finasteride. Most men can take it with only getting less sperm volume and an ache in their left testicle. Maybe some loss of spontaneous erections. But for most men the sides aren't even noticeable or managable and their too happy about their hair situation to care.
 

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Couldn't we just implant plastic hair into our Scalps?

Maybe in the future we could develop some sort of nanotechnology, like some sort of hair system that you can implant into your head without being rejected and which can be programmed to grow. Robotic hair or something. Probably impossible, but if we could do it it would cure every type of hair loss.
 

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It really amazes me that - apparently - a lot of men don't care about hairloss. Clearly Rogain is nearly worthless, but there is real value in dht blockers like finasteride and dutasteride; if there wasn't such (unfounded) concern about sides, millions of men could keep so much more of their hair.

I openly tell people I used to take propecia. And that it worked. And they have never heard of it and are also in disbelief that it actually works.
 

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Yeah I think there is a general misconception that all the medicines are snake oils that don't work and that you should just shave it or get a hairpiece.
 

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I openly tell people I used to take propecia. And that it worked. And they have never heard of it and are also in disbelief that it actually works.

It's actually easier to say I took it because trump has been outed as a finasteride user.

I also have to explain why I didn't keep taking it.

I go down the whole I was done altering my hormones and wasn't getting spontaneous erections route...
 

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I am sorry finasteride didn't work out for you. I have found that The stigma of being a finasteride and rogaine user is not nearly as bad as being a rug wearer for instance.
 

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It really amazes me that - apparently - a lot of men don't care about hairloss. Clearly Rogain is nearly worthless, but there is real value in dht blockers like finasteride and dutasteride; if there wasn't such (unfounded) concern about sides, millions of men could keep so much more of their hair.

I have, all my life, heard men say and unironically spell out that "looks don't matter for men."

They honestly believe that when it comes to the male gender, no one cares if you're fat, bald, excessively hairy, patchy facial hair, poorly-dressed and have bad hygiene. A guy I went to highschool with recently admitted publicly on facebook that he doesn't brush his teeth and "never had any trouble with the ladies" and he is now married to a 300lb+ woman. I asked what he would do if he started going bald and he literally said, "My family grows wicked receding hairlines!" Looool, no they don't.

When I started to really give a sh*t about my appearance to the point of total vanity in my late teens, it changed my life dramatically and most of it revolved around my hair. I cut it, got my teeth fixed up, started wearing better clothes and I got every job I was interviewed for (I've never NOT been hired since), I didn't get asked if I sold weed, and the kinds of girls I previously lusted over in the shadows were sitting down beside me in my college classes striking up conversation and going on dates.

Hairloss was always one of my worst fears and I never imagined it would start happening to me at 24, and fast if I didn't do something about. I was always aware of how balding men were generally seen as less attractive, negatively stereotyped, and I just hate the look, myself.

So it was a tremendous kick in the balls to see the rewards and self satisfaction of all my efforts to improve my appearance threatened to be undone by nature...
 

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Yes, donations could definitely help. I just think the science behind curing hair loss is very hard. There are some things that are physically impossible to do, because of the laws of physics. Like most scientists are pretty sure it is impossible to go faster than the speed of light, so sci fi with faster than light travel is fantasy. I just hope to God that biotech like we see in sci fi like regrowing limbs and hair! is not also impossible.
Technically newtons second law, may very well be broken by the EM drive.
 

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They will likely either cure or come up with the first legit treatment for hearing loss by way of a drug cocktail injected into the inner ear. Researchers around the world are racing to find the first real treatment for hearing loss, and it looks like a cocktail of drugs may be the fix for nerve damaged and age related hearing loss. This is but another clue we are living in extraordinary times.

And I think it likely that a legit treatment for hair loss will be a drug or compound sold OTC as a cream or topical. Robert Hoffman of Anti-Cancer in California once said that hair follicles are miniature organs physically located in the skin and the most accessible organ for drug therapies. And we are observing breakthrough news with respect to stem cells and secrets of hair growth almost monthly now. Hair growth and skin cancer research has been happening in tandem for decades, and people like Elaine Fuchs, Colin Jahoda, Angela Christiano and George Cotsarelis are renowned cancer and hair biologists that have made great strides in understanding hair growth and hair loss. And now other skin cancer researchers are registering important research with respect to stem cell activation of HF. They are all well aware of how lucrative a legit treatment for Androgenetic Alopecia would be, and so are the profit-driven drug companies that have, time and again, looked to publicly-funded research in picking the "low hanging fruit" to add to their "product portfolios." We can bet that someone in the pharmaceutical industry has already coveted UCLA's patented drugs for HF stem cell activation and will be looking to develop those drugs. Whether Tsuji's, Replicel's or Follica's methods work or not, we can be sure that geneticists will be looking to find the easiest and most elegant solution to hair loss, and that would be, according to Angela Christiano, an OTC cream or topical for growing hair. An OTC cream or topical should always be more affordable than flying to Mexico or Japan for biopsies and cell expansion procedures. The most affordable treatment will be the one that you can buy over the counter and doesn't necessitate re-mortgaging our houses to afford purchasing.
 
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Already available, bad for your skin very bad...
Is it maybe possible to implant hair from our good lucky friend who has thick hair? He would just have to shave it once?
 

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Okey no i didnt think this through we need roots also
 

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Is it maybe possible to implant hair from our good lucky friend who has thick hair? He would just have to shave it once?
Nope the body doesn't accept hair follicles from other humans
 

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Nope the body doesn't accept hair follicles from other humans

I remember a discussion on this forum about the possibility of transplanting hair follicles from someone to someone else. At the time, the consensus was: "Why has no one followed up on this?".

The reason why that question was left unanswered is that, according to a 1999 (!) study by Jahoda, transplanting hair follicles from one person to another appears very possible and doesn't seem to induce an immune response. Furthermore, despite having different genetic make-ups, the donated hair follicles induces hair growth in nearby tissues.

It seems baffling that no one tried to bring that concept to full fruition. Maybe it was because of ethical reasons?

Link to the study:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v402/n6757/full/402033a0.html

Link to a news article (since the study is behind a paywall):
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...ir-cells-offers-hope-for-the-bald-738710.html
 

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I remember a discussion on this forum about the possibility of transplanting hair follicles from someone to someone else. At the time, the consensus was: "Why has no one followed up on this?".

The reason why that question was left unanswered is that, according to a 1999 (!) study by Jahoda, transplanting hair follicles from one person to another appears very possible and doesn't seem to induce an immune response. Furthermore, despite having different genetic make-ups, the donated hair follicles induces hair growth in nearby tissues.

It seems baffling that no one tried to bring that concept to full fruition. Maybe it was because of ethical reasons?

Link to the study:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v402/n6757/full/402033a0.html

Link to a news article (since the study is behind a paywall):
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...ir-cells-offers-hope-for-the-bald-738710.html
Ethical reasons?
A lot of people would even kill those "donors" to get their hair back.

There are many organ transplantations that can go wrong or the body rejects it, but there are more advanced methods like "ghost hearts" that don't have the problem of rejection. Even 3D printed and then cell cultivated transplants are possible for transplanting.

The problem could be that hairs are simply small organs and thousand of transplanted organs could be problem, just heard that it couldn't be done. Don't know if there is any case in which this has been possible until now, who knows?

Time to scalp some motherfuckers?
 

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Okay so it is in a way possible but wouldnt you need hair roots as well and no one would let a surgeon pluck their hair and be bald for a couple of months so we could get our hair back so this is not a solution.. oh well nothing new
 
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