Does Someone Think That Cure Will Never Be Invented

[Kev123]

Why would one product that was patented by someone else, and some other company is making money off of it, stop another person/company from discovering and patenting another product, presumably a cure that will make that person/company a lot of money?

Don't give humans that much credit, we do not have a cure for hair loss because we don't know of any, not because we have it and and the FDA and every other countries drug regulatory agencies have all collectively been ordered by some Grand Overseer of planet Earth to hold off on all Male Pattern Baldness cures because the grand overseer wants to laugh at all of us, while he himself is balding away, and his sons and all of his family members are all suffering from it as well.

 

[Endmymisery]

If one is scoring physical appearance on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being perfection, I think a nice head of hair is worth about 3 points (height 3 points, body and face 2 each). Since most average men are - by definition - a 5, losing one's hair is the difference between getting steady trim and "forever alones." Now, there are lots of things that can offset this brutal deduction (the most powerful of which is a successful career), but when judging on appearance alone, it's absolutely devistating. If it weren't so common, it would widely be considered a horribly disfiguring disease on par with some of the more exotic conditions that affect appearance.

For me and for most of my youthful years, it was more of an annoyance, as I had enough - but just enough - to get by with one hair style when I would have liked to have had more fashionable options. I really feel for young men who are NW3+ in their early 20's, and I thank God finasteride exists; I noticed my hair loss at 19, and would have surely been a high Norwood if I didn't have intervention.

You started using finasteride at 19? How has it been? How long have you used it for? Any side effects?

 

[yess]

Have you ever seen a son whose dad is bald but he isnt? Is that possible i know that the other way around is

 

[Trichosan]

Have you ever seen a son whose dad is bald but he isnt? Is that possible i know that the other way around is

Yes, see it occasionally. In fact, I have two sons, neither show any signs of hair loss yet my father and grandfather on my dad's side were bald and so was my mothers father, badly receded. My kid's saving grace was my wife's father, no loss and her mother's side, slight recession but no crown or total loss. And strangely, my daughter doesn't have as thick or dense hair as her brothers. Greatest gift I gave them was marrying their mother in that regard.

 

[Endmymisery]

Rogain at 19, finasteride and ketoconazole at 20 or 21 (I can't remeber exactly). Deminimis sides - maybe less ejaculate, but who knows (it's not like I'm weigh them). Zero problems getting errections when I want them, but I don't wake up with an errection (though I have no problem having morning sex and do regularly), which is probably a result of finasteride since, when I forget to fill the script and go a few days without it, the morning wood returns.

Crippling sides are largely a myth - the vast, vast majority of men on finasteride - and that includes the men taking it for BHP - do not get sides that interrupt their lifestyle. Do a infinitesimally small number of men get "post finasteride syndrome?" I guess so, but if you believe you're getting bad sides (heavy on the "believe" - most performance problems are in your head, not your prostate), then get off it - the half life isn't that long.

Finasteride won't grow hair for most people, but it WILL save hair for a lot of people.

Thank you for your reply, made me feel a lot better. I'm 20 and waiting for my finasteride to arrive so I can start, would you say if you didn't continue with it, you would be bald by 25?was it aggressive?
Also, do you plan on coming off of it ever?

 

[Seeñor pelos]

It really amazes me that - apparently - a lot of men don't care about hairloss. Clearly Rogain is nearly worthless, but there is real value in dht blockers like finasteride and dutasteride; if there wasn't such (unfounded) concern about sides, millions of men could keep so much more of their hair.

Benefits is very minimal vs side effects. Most men dont even know they have side effects until they get off it.

 

[nameless]

I think promising treatments are in the pipeline from Replicel, Kerastem, and Tsuji. 3d printing is also in the works.

 

[yess]

Yes, see it occasionally. In fact, I have two sons, neither show any signs of hair loss yet my father and grandfather on my dad's side were bald and so was my mothers father, badly receded. My kid's saving grace was my wife's father, no loss and her mother's side, slight recession but no crown or total loss. And strangely, my daughter doesn't have as thick or dense hair as her brothers. Greatest gift I gave them was marrying their mother in that regard.

How old are your sons?

 

[yess]

And i dont get why are you all waiting for Follica it is exactly like using a dermaroller and then minoxidil on your scalp

 

[MrV88]

And i dont get why are you all waiting for Follica it is exactly like using a dermaroller and then minoxidil on your scalp

İt ain't. There are more compounds than just minoxidil, but nobody knows when this will come out that's the problem. My guess 2019-2020

 

[Dante92]

A cure will come out. But not in time to save me and many here.

 

[Medina]

There are many "cures". Many ways to block your receptors, enzymes & hormones

But they come with sides and probably always will

 

[Kev123]

We will never invent a time machine, at least not one that can go back in time. That's like about the only thing I know for certain that humans will never invent.

A cure for hair loss will be invented some day, if not in my lifetime, then maybe in some other luck bastards lifetime. But it will happen.

We'll even invent life-like women bots, with a real-feeling vagina, which will be a popular product in the market for lonely balding guys who can not get a real woman. At first, the bot could be yours for only $9,999, but then the price will drop in the following decade. Different bots will come for different fetishes, even a "Teeth"-like bot (the movie), with teeth in its private parts, that bites down, for who ever is in to that.

 

[Trichosan]

How old are your sons?

31 and 34.

 

[Endmymisery]

31 and 34.

Damn how long have you been on hairloss forums

 

[Trichosan]

Damn how long have you been on hairloss forums

Ha, ha. Not long. My interest in my own hairloss goes way back. I used Minoxidil before it was commercialized as a hair treatment. Crushed the tablets and formulated a topical solution of about 3%. Used it for many years until I got tired of the routine. Wasn't effective anyway. Then life, career, kids can be a whirlwind and after all that you get up, look in the mirror and say, "wow, where'd my hair go". Bottom line is, you get old and you start wishin' for your hair, looks and years back. You'll see. Thankfully we have hope through science like never before, so off we go.

 

[Endmymisery]

Ha, ha. Not long. My interest in my own hairloss goes way back. I used Minoxidil before it was commercialized as a hair treatment. Crushed the tablets and formulated a topical solution of about 3%. Used it for many years until I got tired of the routine. Wasn't effective anyway. Then life, career, kids can be a whirlwind and after all that you get up, look in the mirror and say, "wow, where'd my hair go". Bottom line is, you get old and you start wishin' for your hair, looks and years back. You'll see. Thankfully we have hope through science like never before, so off we go.

What are your thoughts on the new upcoming treatments? I assume you went through a lot of disappointments throughout with a false promise of a new treatment every 5 years, do you feel like the new treatment has a different feel to it?

 

[Trichosan]

Definitely. The science and technology is here in cell culturing, transplantation and cellular metabolic pathways. Genetic manipulation, the ultimate, has just begun to arrive on the horizon. There will be bumps and delays, regulatory roadblocks to the former, but it's going to come. Plenty of threads here speculating on timeframe and I can't add much more to that. Tsuji's direction is where it's at and I believe they will succeed.

 

[yess]

31 and 34.

And they are not showing any signs of hairloss? Wow maybe its all in my head then my mothers father is also not bald i mean i know that it depends from person to person but maybe there is hope

 

[Trichosan]

Despite lots of talk on both sides the Mother's-side contribution to hairloss or not is not proven. What amazes me is how much my adult male offspring take their hair for granted. They could pull off any style you see "super heads" with but to them, meh, just get a haircut. I guess you don't know what you have until you don't have it! They lucked out in the looks department too. Again, Mom.