Dr. Tsuji Kyocera, Riken Research, Organ Technologies Form Regenerative Hair Research Team

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Wouldn't transplanted donor hair turn to sh*t eventually since its susceptible to dht?
Even people with senile alopecia never lose all of their donor hair. It would just be a process of trial and error until you end up with a fully resistant head of hair. The first treatment would probably last you at least a decade before certain hairs start diffusely thinning. By that time every clinic in every country will offer the procedure(at a much lower cost). Even people with DUPA/senile alopecia have a reason to be very excited.
 

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Answer: We developed a novel hair regeneration using a bioengineered hair follicle germ transplantation. Our method has several advancements such as the control of eruption hair density and hair color, compared to previous studies.

Answer: We would like to realize human clinical study at 2020. We will overcome the several hardles and realize human clinical study within 5 years.

So I guess Dr. Tsuji wasn't playing around last time he answered :).

Furthermore; http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v3/n4/full/ncomms1784.html

It is preferable for a clinically applicable hair regeneration therapy to utilize autologous follicular unit transplantation (FUT), which is the most popular treatment for androgenic alopecia41. To achieve hair follicle regeneration at hair densities of 120 or 60–100 hair shafts cm−2 of normal scalp or in FUT treatment41, respectively, twenty-eight bioengineered hair germs were transplanted into a cervical skin circle with a diameter of 1 cm. At 14 to 21 days after transplantation, the bioengineered hairs were erupted at a high density of 124.0±17.3 hair shafts cm−2 (n=3; Fig. 2c). These results indicated that similar to FUT therapy, the transplantation of bioengineered hair follicle germs could be applied as a treatment for androgenic alopecia.

For hair follicle regeneration, the bioengineered hair germs were ectopically engrafted into the subrenal capsules of 8-week-old C57BL/6 mice, as previously described7, 13, or they were intracutaneously transplanted onto the back skin of 6-week-old Balb/c nu/nu mice. Shallow stab wounds, which were nearly parallel to the skin surface and ~0.4 mm vertical and 2.8 mm horizontal from the needle-stick point, were made in the back skin of nude mice with a 20-G Ophthalmic V-Lance (Alcon Japan, Tokyo, Japan). The bioengineered hair follicle germ, which contained a nylon guide, was arranged in the epithelial portion and above, and it was intradermally transplanted into the wounds. The nylon guide was held so that it protruded from the skin surface. The transplantation sites were then covered with surgical bandage tape (Nichiban, Tokyo, Japan). To examine the engraftment of the transplants and to study the hair cycles of the bioengineered hairs, all transplanted sites were observed using a SteREO Lumar V12 and AxioCam fluorescent stereoscopic microscope system (Carl Zeiss, Oberkochen, Germany). Observations were made every 2–3 days.

Older study though etc limited information.... Who knows how they will be doing it now? I assume like Pray that higher density could be achieved with this than a regular hair transplant though. A bioengineered hair germ is obviously (way) smaller than a developed hair follicle.
 

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We still don’t know that this treatment will work on humans, so don’t jump around with all optimism. Just look at all hair loss treatments. They all started with high optimism, but in the end they failed.
 

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We still don’t know that this treatment will work on humans, so don’t jump around with all optimism. Just look at all hair loss treatments. They all started with high optimism, but in the end they failed.

+1 It's always the same. Go back on any hair loss forum and you'll fine plenty of threads very similar to this. All hope and excitement that leads to nothing. Don't get your hopes up guys just go out and try to live your life the best you can. Even if this a success it won't be available for years, plus the waiting list and cost means you might not even be able to get it.
 

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+1 It's always the same. Go back on any hair loss forum and you'll fine plenty of threads very similar to this. All hope and excitement that leads to nothing. Don't get your hopes up guys just go out and try to live your life the best you can. Even if this a success it won't be available for years, plus the waiting list and cost means you might not even be able to get it.
If this treatment give really good results it will need another 4-5 years other doctors and clinics from North America and Europe to learn how to use it, because it will be really complicated technique for ordinary doctors to do it.

Plus, i have seen many similar topics with “cure is 5 years away“ even 10 years ago, so i don’t jump around with high hopes and optimism about this. Only time will tell.

What gives me hope is that Japanese people are very serious, smart and honest people and dedicated to their jobs.
 

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There hasn't been anything like this in the past. Of course something could still go wrong, but the science is solid, the financial backing is solid, and the law is on our side in Japan. If ever there was a time for optimism, this is it.
And scientists knows a lot more about hair loss than decade before and stem cell industry has advanced dramatically last 10 years. I have optimism, but only time will tell. Even from failure methods and clinical trials we learn a lot about hair loss mainly.
 

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This technology will be effective for guys without hair (egg head)/ all hair cycles exhausted ?
 

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We still don’t know that this treatment will work on humans, so don’t jump around with all optimism. Just look at all hair loss treatments. They all started with high optimism, but in the end they failed.

I agree. If you go back to threads from 2005 you will see similar excitement. I dont want to be a buzz kill but I just dont want people to get their hopes crushed. For the present assume this isnt going to work out and if it does great.
 

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I agree. If you go back to threads from 2005 you will see similar excitement. I dont want to be a buzz kill but I just dont want people to get their hopes crushed. For the present assume this isnt going to work out and if it does great.
Technology and science is far better and advanced than it used to be 10-15 years ago, so a lot of things are possible now to some degree.
 

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Technology and science is far better and advanced than it used to be 10-15 years ago, so a lot of things are possible now to some degree.

Im sure they were saying the same thing 10 years ago.

I will say this though, for all you guys worrying about waiting lists and the logistics dont. IF(and thats a big IF) this works then even if there is a 10 year waiting list, it takes away the biggest risk of a hair transplant, that is continued balding with limited donor supply. So if this ever looks like it will happen worst case you can get a regular hair transplant, knowing that your not going to be left high and dry if you continue to lose hair. Basically it will let you stop worrying about your hair which is the greatest benefit of any cure, even if you wont be able to get it right away.
 

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Here's a question. If this works, will it work to replace your donor hair if you go ahead and get a hair transplant now?
 

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"In addition, the RIKEN research team has succeeded in using iPS cells*6 to regenerate functional skin organ systems*7 in mice
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, including all follicles, sebaceous glands, and skin tissues, thus leading the world in organ regeneration technology."

I understand the skepticism but c'mon guys. If this isn't it, it will never be.

We're talking about the world leader in organ regeneration technology here. This isn't some small time company just f*****g around. And they are pairing with a huge electronics company (nearly 15 billion dollars in revenue with 1 billion dollars income) to create machinery to allow others to use this technology easily. This is 100% the real deal.
 
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"In addition, the RIKEN research team has succeeded in using iPS cells*6 to regenerate functional skin organ systems*7 in mice
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, including all follicles, sebaceous glands, and skin tissues, thus leading the world in organ regeneration technology."

I understand the skepticism but c'mon guys. If this isn't it, it will never be.

We're talking about the world leader in organ regeneration technology here. This isn't some small time company just f*****g around. And they are pairing with a huge electronics company (nearly 15 billion dollars in revenue with 1 billion dollars income) to create machinery to allow others to use this technology easily. This is 100% the real deal.
My thoughts exactly. This is the big one. If by some chance this doesn't work, nothing will.
 

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Exciting, I hope it lives up to the hype, but best case scenario human trials are 4 years away...Ill be 31 then, which is still a semi-youthful age, but still. And that's if all goes well, not to mention availability of the procedure and what not.

I'm still leaning towards a transplant in a year...not putting things on hold for a possibility
 

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My thoughts exactly. This is the big one. If by some chance this doesn't work, nothing will.
Top scientists don’t even bother about hair loss research. If you put top 10 scientists working together on hair loss cure believe me that you will have cure in next 10 years. People that working now on hair loss cure are not even top 10.000 scientists in the world believe me.
 

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Top scientists don’t even bother about hair loss research. If you put top 10 scientists working together on hair loss cure believe me that you will have cure in next 10 years. People that working now on hair loss cure are not even top 10.000 scientists in the world believe me.
RIKEN almost assuredly has the top 10 scientists in organ regeneration.
 

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Just like i said before. Someone who is good in english or japanese can call them and ask specific questions.
 

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"The treatment involves cutting off a small section of scalp and extracting two kinds of stem cells from hair follicles. The extracted cells are processed and propagated to increase their number by 100- to 1,000-fold, making it possible to transplant a large number of hair follicles by cutting off only a small section of the scalp."

Wait so does this mean that the small section of scalp could 'only' produce between 100 and 1,000 new follicles?

A huuuuuge improvement on fue of course, but it could still mean that 30 fue-like, cut-out sections of scalp would be necessary to make 30,000 hairs, 60 to make 60,000 hairs etc.

Or could the single section of scalp contain enough cells to be multiplied enough for unlimited/100k hairs?
 
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