Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[Fvgwnx]

ive been using estradiol pills 2mg for 3 months and 4mg for another 3 months, can't say ive noticed any effect good or bad. i've ordered some e injection but it came out of ukraine so unlikely i'll be getting it.

why didn't you get it or did you just order? I am from Ukraine, Kyiv, all our post offices are closed and I did not have time to pick up my estrophem

 

[kckcjl94]

why didn't you get it or did you just order? I am from Ukraine, Kyiv, all our post offices are closed and I did not have time to pick up my estrophem

yeh it came from kyiv, tracking has it leaving country on the 20th but nothing after that so who knows. i suppose it could have made it out in time.

 

[CTD]

Currently I use estradiol injections every 5 days (my E2 lvl usually sits somewhere between 200-400 during trough), 25mg daily bica (was 50 at one point, but I've reduced it to 25 for about 8 months or so), finasteride 5 days a week alternating with dutasteride for 2 days a week, and 2x daily minoxidil on temples (at night using in conjunction with .025% tretinoin).

I recall you saying that bica doesn't work. Is it working now?

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

I recall you saying that bica doesn't work. Is it working now?

I never said bica didn't work. I just suggested that it's potentially counterproductive if used without hrt or a 5ari since, on its own, you'd be dramatically increasing T whilst blocking androgen receptors. Meaning that there's a lot more T that can't go anywhere except to be converted leading to an increase in DHT which has a much much higher affinity for the receptors than bica does.

 

[Almas_NW0]

Anyone here have success with bica as monotherapy? If so, how long before you saw a reduction in shedding?

In my and many other cases of baldness, which began at an early age, he did nothing. It was like I didn't do anything. Although it reduced the oiliness of the skin and improved its quality, so I will take it anyway

 

[MylovelyHair]

Currently I use estradiol injections every 5 days (my E2 lvl usually sits somewhere between 200-400 during trough), 25mg daily bica (was 50 at one point, but I've reduced it to 25 for about 8 months or so), finasteride 5 days a week alternating with dutasteride for 2 days a week, and 2x daily minoxidil on temples (at night using in conjunction with .025% tretinoin).

Is there any particular reason that you are using 5 days finasteride and 2 days dutasteride?? How do you do duta days back to back?I use them both too but i would like to know your opinion!

 

[Almas_NW0]

As I mentioned, I gained fat mass on HRT and I don't know what role E plays in this and what role poor nutrition plays.
I eat in a calorie deficit and have measured different parts of my body. In July I will repeat the measurements. Let's see if I can lose weight on HRT and if the result is acceptable
A calorie surplus on HRT is a huge mistake. If you eat wisely, I think you can not change the physique significantly.

The more time passes, the more I talk about the fact that I will have to use HRT for the rest of my life. It is difficult to say for sure, in order to answer all the questions, a lifetime experiment is needed, which I put on myself.

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Is there any particular reason that you are using 5 days finasteride and 2 days dutasteride?? How do you do duta days back to back?I use them both too but i would like to know your opinion!

It's not exactly 2x a week. Essentially I do 2 back to back days of finasteride then 1 day dutasteride. And keep repeating. No real rhyme or reason tho

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

I came across your old photo and I did not see your hair problems

I was approx Norwood 2 or 2.5 with less density overall. Now am Norwood 0ish with thicker hair throughout

 

[Almas_NW0]

I'm out of Bicalutamide and I'm too lazy to cut Finasteride tablets so I haven't done anything in a week lol. And more and more I doubt that anything other than injections plays a role in my regimen.

 

[Almas_NW0]

Calorie restriction on T “restriction”= no fat,no muscle
Calorie surplus on T restriction = muscle loss,fat redistribution but no additional fat if lucky
There is no winning combo to that, you cant look male if T is not present

The first option suits me. I'm not looking to increase muscle mass. But in general, estrogen does not interfere with a moderate increase in it: both transgender and cis women can gain muscle. I only think about the relief and dryness of the body
The difference between us is that I don't aspire to be masculine.

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Calorie restriction on T “restriction”= no fat,no muscle
Calorie surplus on T restriction = muscle loss/maintance,fat redistribution but no additional fat if lucky
There is no winning combo to that, you cant look male if T is not present.


Yeah, good luck with that.
After some time its not about indentifying as man its about looking like one.

Only way I can see E2 in any regimen is bica + e2 just for lowering giga-high T levels from time to time. But you have to be very precise with dosing to not overdo it, to not crash T production. Since bica mono does not feminise IMO. ( you be the judge)
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That's you in the pic?

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

That's you in the pic?

I feel a love story beginning…

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

I feel a love story beginning…

I mean he is kinda hot, ngl

 

[recedingyt]

I mean he is kinda hot, ngl

Seconding this

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

You look like astronaut

 

[MylovelyHair]

There is an Androcur oily injection which has 300mg CPA/3ml and it is supposed to be used once per month intra muscular for prostate cancer !!The oil that is used is Castor oil!! And i am thinking.. Can I buy this product and add some CPA+castor oil to my minoxidil and use topical??Will it cause a shed?? I have never seen anyone using CPA topical!What do you think guys should I try it is Topical CPA a thing??

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

There is an Androcur oily injection which has 300mg CPA/3ml and it is supposed to be used once per month intra muscular for prostate cancer !!The oil that is used is Castor oil!! And i am thinking.. Can I buy this product and add some CPA+castor oil to my minoxidil and use topical??Will it cause a shed?? I have never seen anyone using CPA topical!What do you think guys should I try it is Topical CPA a thing??

That sh*t don’t work topically, hardly ever orally. Experimentality has talked about the pharmacology of why. You need to increase your oral minoxidil dose for one, and secondly if you are already on bica then the only thing you can do to improve things is E2. Sorry bro

 

[MylovelyHair]

Got gyno glands out,liver enzymes are normal,ecg is normal so I guess oral min (5mg) is not doing any damage afaik. Only bilirubin had elevated value, ive researched a little and its most likely connected with cyproterone I took before surgery to lower suspicious 1000-1500ng/dl T levels. All nurses insisted (and surgeon) I have perfect hair and told me to stop finasteride (didnt mention bica or dutasteride because they even consider finasteride a poison), oblivous to how it even works for hairloss.
Funny thing, my surgeon is also urologist and PFS believer saying he had patients come to him for that reason lol. All in all I do recommend going with general anesthesia if price is negligible difference to local like it was for me. 2060euros in total, dr maletić.
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Blood tests - after surgery - before

I wish you a nice recovery!How was the whole procedure is it painful after???Also what drugs did you kept using during surgery (hairloss drugs and psychiatric drugs!)?? Now you can take whatever you want knowing that glands are gone! that would be the best feeling in the world!

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

I wish you a nice recovery!How was the whole procedure is it painful after???Also what drugs did you kept using during surgery (hairloss drugs and psychiatric drugs!)?? Now you can take whatever you want knowing that glands are gone! that would be the best feeling in the worst!

Can’t take whatever you want if you care about virility and fertility. Also some said the glands can still grow some after surgery, but don’t know how true that is.