Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[Yar]

You are not transgender, right?

I really like your story! But don't you think taking Testosterone again might hurt your hair?? What's your plan?

And how can I increase liver SHBG without using Spironolactone. Does Eplerenone raise SHBG levels as

No I'm not transgender

 

[Norwoody]

im thinking of giving pharmacy estriol a shot. cream wise specifically that could replace bi-estro cream.


because bi-estro is far lower in dosage...but applied on the scalp it doesnt produce any systemic effect. So I'm wondering if this could be the same for estriol cream from pharma?

Only problem with estriol by itself is that it has a weak binding affinity for ER. It is much less likely to cause gyno though, which, it can probably only do that when taken orally. Janey would probably know more.

 

[Norwoody]

@Yar How does progesterone work? What are the side effects, etc?

Edit: so far from what I'm reading, it's anti-DHT but also anti-aromatase/estrogen. So then it has to increase T. Likely it would prevent some of the aromatization benefits from fina/duta. Might work well in conjunction with other treatments though?

 

[Almas]

When do you plan to test your T?

three months after the start. The first month has already passed

 

[Gergely]

My total testosteron whent from 15,000 nmo/l to 28,500 nmol/l when i first switched to bica

 

[deathdiss]

Only problem with estriol by itself is that it has a weak binding affinity for ER. It is much less likely to cause gyno though, which, it can probably only do that when taken orally. Janey would probably know more.

yeah im thinking it might not have much of a difference between the bi esto.

Luckily in my genetics i'm immune to gyno.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

"Methods and study design​

During the period from September 1998 to May 2001, 10 patients receiving hormone treatment for metastatic or inoperable prostatic cancer were selected for the study if they had breast pain and bilateral gynecomastia. Five of these patients had been offered prophylactic radiotherapy before treatment but refused, while the remaining five patients had refused radiotherapy after hormone treatment. These patients were therefore given the option of surgical treatment. Before surgery all patients underwent clinical and ultrasound examination of the breast. All surgical samples were examinated histopathologically. During follow-up clinical examinations were carried out one week, one month, six months, one year and two years after surgery.

Results​

The results were satisfactory in all patients especially from an aesthetic point of view. Moreover, breast pain disappeared about one week after surgery. After a follow-up of 6-36 months (average, 22.8 months) no recurrences were observed. Only a few immediate postoperative complications were recorded (hematoma in one case and seroma in another). Histological examination of the excised glands showed fibrosclerotic tissue and a small amount of fat.

Conclusion​

Surgical liposuction can be considered an effective treatment for gynecomastia, in particular in the very early stages because the breast becomes irreversibly fibrous as the disease progresses. This surgical technique is simple and effective and is therefore to be considered favorable, especially because of the very short hospitalization and the absence of complications."

Seems like cancer patients got rid of it through surgery and it went away...
hm

 

[Yar]

[USER = 141950] @Yar [/ USER] Как работает прогестерон? Какие бывают побочные эффекты и т. Д.?

Изменить: пока что далеко от того, что я читаю, это анти-ДГТ, но также и антиароматаза / эстроген. Тогда он должен увеличить T. Вероятно, это предотвратит некоторые преимущества ароматизации от фина / дута. Но может ли хорошо работать в сочетании с другими методами лечения?

Progesterone is a natural inhibitor of 5ap ,it is present in both sexes, when the concentration of progesterone falls young people often experience problems with hair and acne, alopecia, baldness occurs!

 

[Pls_NW-1]

I can't find any anecdotal reports of using raloxifene for gyno while battling male pattern baldness.

Maave used it but don't know how it went.

@Hair attack uses a heavy protocol and says he doesnt loose any hair, even while taking steroids -> body building

Ein said you shouldn't take SERMs while combating male pattern baldness. He dropped after that his Tamoxifene.

Now I am not sure what to do.
I don’t want to live with b**ch tits and splashing milkers.

 

[Almas]

I can't find any anecdotal reports of using raloxifene for gyno while battling male pattern baldness.

Maave used it but don't know how it went.

@Hair attack uses a heavy protocol and says he doesnt loose any hair, even while taking steroids -> body building

Ein said you shouldn't take SERMs while combating male pattern baldness. He dropped after that his Tamoxifene.

Now I am not sure what to do.
I don’t want to live with b**ch tits and splashing milkers.

Just save money for the operation and forget about it

 

[Pls_NW-1]

"I take Spironolactone because 50mg Bicalutamide is most likely insufficient to block androgens in non-castrated males, as in prostate cancer, Bicalutamide is always paired with castration. Spironolactone is meant to lower the levels of androgens to normal male levels because Bicalutamide increases the androgens levels to two or three times of normal levels. This lowering of the levels of androgens is meant to aid the working of Bicalutamide as it works entirely based on the concentration of itself and the androgens."

"For your question, I'd say that surgery definitely helps you get rid of gynecomastia permanently. And it is definitely possible to stay on treatment forever."

Sorry Ein for qouting you that much D:

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Just save money for the operation and forget about it

It will return always while taking medication aka bica. It will only be permanently away when whole breast is taken away -> deformity, sunken upper body.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

"I take Spironolactone because 50mg Bicalutamide is most likely insufficient to block androgens in non-castrated males, as in prostate cancer, Bicalutamide is always paired with castration. Spironolactone is meant to lower the levels of androgens to normal male levels because Bicalutamide increases the androgens levels to two or three times of normal levels. This lowering of the levels of androgens is meant to aid the working of Bicalutamide as it works entirely based on the concentration of itself and the androgens."

"For your question, I'd say that surgery definitely helps you get rid of gynecomastia permanently. And it is definitely possible to stay on treatment forever."

Sorry Ein for qouting you that much D:

This proves again that 50mg alone is insufficient.

 

[Almas]

This proves again that 50mg alone is insufficient.

I should remind you that 50mg of Bicalutamide gave him results. We cannot yet say for sure whether this is enough. I can say for sure that 100mg is enough, it will completely block androgens. But maybe 50mg will stop baldness

 

[Almas]

"50mg + Finasteride is guaranteed to stop the progression of Androgenic Alopecia in almost all cases, unless your genes are seriously messed up"
Ein

 

[Pls_NW-1]

I just wanted to say something.

Ikarus said that he dropped his E because he took E at a young age (19 years old). He didn't want anymore the heavy feminization (I think), his E was above transgender ranges. He developed hips and other stuff, and it will possibly stay forever, his bone development got interfered, I think.

I wonder what happened to his hair condition. Last thing of him was that he recovered 70% of his baseline and that he put in oral minoxidil into the cocktail to get the maximum out of it.

But did he lost ground while ditching the E?! Not sure... Another thing is that he got heavy feminization all over, but reverse might not be possible because of the bica.

Would be nice if someone has contact to him to reach me out to him!

 

[Pls_NW-1]

I still haven't fully recovered from the letrozole shed from march last year, i have no idea what to do to recover from it other than estradiol. It completely decimated my hair the two months i was on it at 2.5mg. Very stupid of me to take it instead of trying something like ralox instead, live and learn i guess.

Whats your thought on ralox, in relation to hair? Sorry for qouting your old post.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

My total testosteron whent from 15,000 nmo/l to 28,500 nmol/l when i first switched to bica

Did you use E when you started Bica? In your case, I would recommend using 75mg Bica + 5ARi.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Realistically speaking you have to have 1 in 15 trash tier genes to even lose on fina alone.

Yeah for the first few years* :')

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Idk about that, I think almost every study proves that fina works great for 10 years+. I dont get why some people think that it will magically stop after that. Obviously when it comes to fightning hairloss its not even in the same ballpark as bicalutamide but its proven effectiveness long term is great.

Yes definitely! It depends on the individual, sadly there weren't cases documented like mine, where hair loss started as soon as puberty development started. It depends on the sensitivity of your follicles to androgens.

Nuking DHT sounds simple, but if you really want to combat this, we should look into many more parts, I think.