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@Yar here's the photos of my hair you asked for https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qebhrkzwo0k87bs/AADgG0bMOYf_QAot5ge-uwdca?dl=0, the size is too big to just upload them here. i took them by the window in the sun light, if youu want better ones let me know.
Yes, your hair is corroded with testosterone. I would start the first month with estradiol therapy 1ml in the morning 1ml evening 14 days.To give a chance to accumulate estradiol.On the 15th day I would connect spirolancton 25ml in the morning 25ml evening + 1ml estradiol in the morning 1ml estradiol evening.Why so must be done? Because spirolancton also has an anti-estrogenic effect, therefore, first of all estradiol must be accumulated!
 

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HRT is amazing at reversing hairloss and a bit of your age, it's a shame that so few of us find this information when trying to find a way to remedy our baldness. Usually the Dr. will refer you to finasteride and just tell you to wait 2 years to see a result. and then we waste 2 years waiting and nothing happens so then were mad about wasted time trying to get our hair back. But no Dr tells us that if we alter our hormones then the hair will return all the way. HRT should be more talked about in the hairloss community.
The long term side effects should be more talked about. It’s not that so few find this information. It’s the fact we all know these hardcore feminising drugs work but a majority of male pattern baldness sufferers want to remain “men”. A lot of guys on this thread have no problem losing their male anatomy, in fact I would go as far to say they’re closet transgenders. These hardcore drugs are only really toys to any red blooded male. When the day comes that the same results can be accomplished without side effects, I’ll be doing cartwheels down the street.
 

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The long term side effects should be more talked about. It’s not that so few find this information. It’s the fact we all know these hardcore feminising drugs work but a majority of male pattern baldness sufferers want to remain “men”. A lot of guys on this thread have no problem losing their male anatomy, in fact I would go as far to say they’re closet transgenders. These hardcore drugs are only really toys to any red blooded male. When the day comes that the same results can be accomplished without side effects, I’ll be doing cartwheels down the street.
and take a camera?
 

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The long term side effects should be more talked about. It’s not that so few find this information. It’s the fact we all know these hardcore feminising drugs work but a majority of male pattern baldness sufferers want to remain “men”. A lot of guys on this thread have no problem losing their male anatomy, in fact I would go as far to say they’re closet transgenders. These hardcore drugs are only really toys to any red blooded male. When the day comes that the same results can be accomplished without side effects, I’ll be doing cartwheels down the street.

That’s like saying that finasteride users want to be intersex since the medication was based on intersex people. Long-term side effects are well known, and constantly spoken about on this thread. If I’m being entirely honest, most men are insanely stupid on this website including that man who was complaining about libido loss on finasteride yet is having sex 13 to 15 times a week.

Using this regimen is for those who are aware of the side effects, but value the results more.
 

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I wouldn't say i'm a closet transgenger, but rather i don't really care about sex or my gender as long as life is enjoyable, considering the fact we are only allowed to exist for a short time before we disappear forever, so losing my libido is no big deal that i would fuss about. Alot of men on here (on this forum) are pretty dumb like you said, complaining about a bit of libido loss and choosing to stay bald because they are scared lol, but for me personally baldness is worse than cancer, because it's an ongoing 'disease'? that affects your quality of life and the amount of enjoyment/peace you can get out of it, only that the suffering is prolonged due to the fact that it's not fatal. Actually there is a theory that balding is linked to heart disease and possibly that could be a big reason spironolactone works so well since it's used to treat /heart failure aswell. It's possible, but the heart must play a role in hairloss too. It's said that thinning hair is an early sign of pre heart disease.

I agree. It’s a case of me being confident enough in my biological gender to make such a change. I have concluded what my priorities are, and that is my appearance. I didn’t care much about libido since I never had such libido compared to other men. Since starting these medications, I have noticed almost no change in libido. It confuses me because how can anyone prioritise libido over hair? Even with finasteride where the change in libido is insignificant, people still prioritise that 0.1% loss of libido over their hair...
 

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I can't fathom why people would choose libido over hair, but i, like you, have never had much libido compared to other men either, and never cared or obsessed over sex, or cared if my dick worked. I care more about how i look and how the way i look makes me feel/ affect my daily mood, and how others perceive / treat me in work environments/ social environments.

Because you didn't have so much libido you don't know what the libido really is ...
Craving for c**** (or pussies if you like fish), feeling an amazing pleasure going through all your body, having fun with being f*cked or something else with someone you truly love ... it's just amazing. I never really experienced all of this, but I can imagine ... it must be great /:
That's why people do care more about their sexlife than their hair. And it's not insane at all lol.
 

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Because you didn't have so much libido you don't know what the libido really is ...
Craving for c**** (or pussies if you like fish), feeling an amazing pleasure going through all your body, having fun with being f*cked or something else with someone you truly love ... it's just amazing. I never really experienced all of this, but I can imagine ... it must be great /:
That's why people do care more about their sexlife than their hair. And it's not insane at all lol.

I just think the idea of sex is gross... Maybe I still have a childlike mentality but it just seems so germy... Even the thought of kissing someone makes me want to puke, sharing saliva :confused::eek:
 

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I just think the idea of sex is gross... Maybe I still have a childlike mentality but it just seems so germy... Even the thought of kissing someone makes me want to puke, sharing saliva :confused::eek:
You might think like that but billions of other humans beings don’t. Maybe you need to talk to someone about why you are so disgusted by someone touching you?
 

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Because you didn't have so much libido you don't know what the libido really is ...
Craving for c**** (or pussies if you like fish), feeling an amazing pleasure going through all your body, having fun with being f*cked or something else with someone you truly love ... it's just amazing. I never really experienced all of this, but I can imagine ... it must be great /:
That's why people do care more about their sex life than their hair. And it's not insane at all lol.
sex is useless, unless you want children to reproduce and keep your family line continued, all desire are traps,endless traps, no matter how much sex and dating you have, it won't be enough, just like food, shopping, buying cars...etc if you go that route, it is an endless misery of trying to mate and impress your partner,, whoes at the end is a human just like you, humans are selfish and that's our nature, I dnt care about raising children or caring for anyone, it's me me me me, i will invest in the impossible to achieve the body and the mind that I want, most angels and gods are sexless androgynous being who are self-centered and are focused on self-development rather than chasing desires and crying over breakups, I never liked sex or even being beside anyone, it is a waste of time and energy, that was my intial motivation to self-castration, and I wasnt even expecting or thinking about hair, but my hair is growing back which is a bonus, if you wanna follow the rules of nature then you have to accept baldness, and love is part of nature, but iam all about breaking free from nature and creating my reality despite having the shitiest gene
 

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The long term side effects should be more talked about. It’s not that so few find this information. It’s the fact we all know these hardcore feminising drugs work but a majority of male pattern baldness sufferers want to remain “men”. A lot of guys on this thread have no problem losing their male anatomy, in fact I would go as far to say they’re closet transgenders. These hardcore drugs are only really toys to any red blooded male. When the day comes that the same results can be accomplished without side effects, I’ll be doing cartwheels down the street.
there won't be a cure on this earth beside transplanting hair from the lab or the back of the head, baldness for people who are genetically predisposed to it is like beard growth, deepening of the voice and other puberty changes that are induced by androgens, it is a natural and gradual process caused by androgens, remove androgens and you are saved,that's it, Dr Hamilton Norwwod summarized male pattern baldness his researches a century ago, by observing thousand of eunuchs who were saved from baldness, in his clinic, it is very simple and obvious, and it is part of being a man
 

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I just think the idea of sex is gross... Maybe I still have a childlike mentality but it just seems so germy... Even the thought of kissing someone makes me want to puke, sharing saliva :confused::eek:

I wanted to reply with tons of gay kissing pictures ... but I don't want you or others to puke. I can understand it's not something pleasant to see for everybody. For my part I dislike seeing two women kissing each others.
But I think you're missing something. Love is amazing. Here I'm not talking about sex. Just love. Maybe it's not your thing and never will be. If you're happy anyway, that's fine I guess.
 

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Maybe that's true and i don't know what a high libido is like, but for me, an acid trip or some mushrooms is way more fun than having a high libido. i'm sure orgasms and dopamine rushes are amazing for others, but i mean there's other ways to have fun if you're just looking for a good feeling (not telling you to go do psychedelics i'm just talking lol) anyways i'm not really about the sex life, im not grossed out by it, ijust have no desire but that's just me.

I should try acid and mushrooms then ...
My sex drive is very low at the moment, so I can understand somehow the disgust for sex.
 

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I wanted to reply with tons of gay kissing pictures ... but I don't want you or others to puke. I can understand it's not something pleasant to see for everybody. For my part I dislike seeing two women kissing each others.
But I think you're missing something. Love is amazing. Here I'm not talking about sex. Just love. Maybe it's not your thing and never will be. If you're happy anyway, that's fine I guess.

Yeah im in agreement with itchy here. Anyway just to update, nipples still sensitive and the beginning i think of gyno, i think me being slightly overweight is making it look worse though so im just going to continue taking spironolactone. I just hope it doesn't get any worse. Oh also im thinking about cutting back oral minoxidil to just 10mg at night, i don't think the long term effects of spironolactone and oral minoxidil at such a high dosage as 20/25mg would be good.
 
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I wanted to reply with tons of gay kissing pictures ... but I don't want you or others to puke. I can understand it's not something pleasant to see for everybody. For my part I dislike seeing two women kissing each others.
But I think you're missing something. Love is amazing. Here I'm not talking about sex. Just love. Maybe it's not your thing and never will be. If you're happy anyway, that's fine I guess.

I find others kissing cute, but not with myself! I've tried it once and I just couldn't without wanting to throw up :confused: Maybe it was the stubble? I honestly do think I'm so repelled by the idea of love due to a religious upbringing.
 

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You might think like that but billions of other humans beings don’t. Maybe you need to talk to someone about why you are so disgusted by someone touching you?

I don't think I would need to, in complete honesty. I just find it awkward :confused:
 

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I wanted to reply with tons of gay kissing pictures ... but I don't want you or others to puke. I can understand it's not something pleasant to see for everybody. For my part I dislike seeing two women kissing each others.
But I think you're missing something. Love is amazing. Here I'm not talking about sex. Just love. Maybe it's not your thing and never will be. If you're happy anyway, that's fine I guess.
the reason you have lost your hair was because you loved someone, and he told you to stop taking castrating drugs, now that person will eventually go or die and you will remain miserable because you listened to him, and surrendered for love, that is sad but a good lesson to learn from
 
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