Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[KamKar]

do you know any of these websites?.

Google shows couple of them, but unfortunately i am not aware how much reliable they are.

 

[Stephen788]

I got impatient and i had a date with this girl who likes me, so the stupid in me came out and decided minoxidil would make my temples thicker.

If I can say anything it is that it most likely won’t take a year for it to regrow. Some will start growing back in a few months. Just get on toppik or a similar product. If you order it from amazon it will come by early next week. Then see what it looks like on. Don’t cancel on the girl you like. Even wear a hat, you might regret it trust me.

 

[Sonolmn98]

yeah... i get face and shoulder acne when i combine the two. if i just take either one alone, then it's fine, this is the only thing i don't like about bicalutamide. I want nice skin, hair and healthy body weight, i am so over being a skinny stick, it angers me that i can't eat food the way i need to unless i have progesterone causing me to feel like I'm starving 24/7.

what i did is hacking fat redistribution, diet and lose all the manly fat and muscles until you are skin and bone and then when u start hrt (especially E) eat like a mad b**ch so the new fats will be distributed nicely and evenly, i f*****g hate the man belly, and big fat arms and shoulder and i would rather have that fat in my *** and hips, not only it is more aesthetic but also it add to the softening of the feature and texture, i cycle my weight , gain n lose gain n lose until you have a female body , yay!

 

[Sonolmn98]

How should i go about helping my body lose its muscles in back, shoulders, and abdomen? Besides starving myself.

losing muscle is soo f*****g hard, once you build them thru sports, you will be cursed, i was into bodybuilding for 3 years and i have put on 35lbs of lean muscles, they made my jaw bigger and made my skin veiny and leathery yike! , i hated my muscular jaw line plus that my body fat percentage was so low that i looked more disgusting that way,but once my T got very low ( after orchi) i dropped 20lbs of muscle in a year but still wasn't enough so i had to do ton and ton ( sometime hours a day) of low intensity steady cardio like marathons running, biking, swimming and running , and i needed to cut down on protein ( not more than 40g per day) i basically only ate apples ,corn, potateo bananas and oranges for months plus that being on a calorie deficit and sleep deprivation helps in muscles breakdown, losing fat is way easier so now i just wanna replace the lost muscle with some fat to soften my features, you have to be unhealthy in order to lose muscle, cigarettes, excess caffeine, red bull, no sleep, sugar and low protein,but it is short term plan and the result is worth it , good for you that you didnt build them in the first place because losing them is harder than losing fat, iam fucked but now looking at my result iam actually happy, my biceps went from 19 inch to 11 1/2 inches in 18 months time, some of my gym buddies dnt recognize me anymore lol !

 

[bridgeburn]

I want my hair to get longer!

but I'm starting an internship soon, at the Embassy of Afghanistan.. Hope I can look professional lol

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Do you think oral minoxidil can cause the same dread shed of @Itsnoahkennedy after a short period?? Now im horrified 2 use it.

Yes, since minoxidil pushes a ton of hair prematurely into the telogan phase. Granted shed from it should grow back thicker, but obviously no one wants to lose what they have, even if it's temporary.

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Lol what if i force a bunch of sheds and then it just grows back thicker from my HRT

I think you likely did synchronize different sheds with adding dutasteride recently as well.

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

losing muscle is soo f*****g hard, once you build them thru sports, you will be cursed, i was into bodybuilding for 3 years and i have put on 35lbs of lean muscles, they made my jaw bigger and made my skin veiny and leathery yike! , i hated my muscular jaw line plus that my body fat percentage was so low that i looked more disgusting that way,but once my T got very low ( after orchi) i dropped 20lbs of muscle in a year but still wasn't enough so i had to do ton and ton ( sometime hours a day) of low intensity steady cardio like marathons running, biking, swimming and running , and i needed to cut down on protein ( not more than 40g per day) i basically only ate apples ,corn, potateo bananas and oranges for months plus that being on a calorie deficit and sleep deprivation helps in muscles breakdown, losing fat is way easier so now i just wanna replace the lost muscle with some fat to soften my features, you have to be unhealthy in order to lose muscle, cigarettes, excess caffeine, red bull, no sleep, sugar and low protein,but it is short term plan and the result is worth it , good for you that you didnt build them in the first place because losing them is harder than losing fat, iam fucked but now looking at my result iam actually happy, my biceps went from 19 inch to 11 1/2 inches in 18 months time, some of my gym buddies dnt recognize me anymore lol !

If you dont mind me asking, how do you identify now? Not long ago you said you were transhphobic and now recently you said you are trans. I obviously wish you the best whether or not you do transition, just curious how your mindset may have changed. (Sorry if too personal and feel free not to answer)

 

[yuri.091]

Hello everybody.

I've been reading this thread (yes, all of it!!), and enjoyed it a lot.
I think this method has a lot of great aspects and I prefer it to the alternatives.

I'm considering an HRT route, so I would like to know more about bicalutamide, especially what the potential side-effects are.
I'm most interested in mental health and general well-being, so I have some questions I hope you can help me answer


1. What are the mental health risks of this regimen?
By far the biggest issue I have is the fear that this would effect my mental health negatively. I need to be sharp, and I like being happy.
I also want to avoid a PFS/androgen hypersensitivity state. That is caused by nuking DHT in general or just with a 5ARI inhibitor?
Also, if you quit bica, there would probably be significant rebound effect, correct?
2.
What are the general mental effects you've felt taking bicalutamide?
Does it make you sharper or duller? Happier or more anxious or relaxed??
I would like to know how your mind changed after going on bica or HRT. Someone told me that map-reading ability decreases, and verbal capacity increases.

Thank you for reading, I hope you will answer my questions

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

@Lindsay Freeman ; It seems my vertex is super sensitive to androgens. Despite taking 300 mg spironolactone, it continues to thin. This is precisely the balding pattern of my maternal uncle. I think the follicles on my vertex are going through apoptosis. Even I am not regrowing some vellus hair on my vertex. What shall I do?

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

Spironolactone and CPA will always maintain a CERTAIN degree of AR signaling as they are partial agonists of the AR, this is because they are androgens inthemselves, although very weak

you should switch to NSAAs, how old are you again bro? what age did u start balding at?

I am 28; I started balding at 20. Before the age of 24, vertex was never a problem. It was my frontal hair, which was the problem. Now on spironolactone, my forelock seems to be improving but the vertex is going worse day by day.

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

I want my hair to get longer!

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but I'm starting an internship soon, at the Embassy of Afghanistan.. Hope I can look professional lol

Be safe in Afghanistan.

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

@Lindsay Freeman ; what dose of bicalutamide shall I take?

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

@Lindsay Freeman ; what dose of bicalutamide shall I take?

Depends on your T level.

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

Depends on your T level.

My T level was 550 two months back.

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

start 75mg bicalutamide and stay on dutasteride.

stay on spironolactone at 300mg for the first 2 weeks of bica, then drop to 150mg for weeks 3-4 of bica. then drop spironolactone completely. this is to reduce partial agonist activity of spironolactone and to slowly reregulate ur lh levels

Spironolactone gave me insomnia and cognitive decline. What to Expect from bicalutamide? Will, it also give me similar side effects?

 

[KamKar]

start 75mg bicalutamide and stay on dutasteride.

stay on spironolactone at 300mg for the first 2 weeks of bica, then drop to 150mg for weeks 3-4 of bica. then drop spironolactone completely. this is to reduce partial agonist activity of spironolactone and to slowly reregulate ur lh levels

Hi Buddy.
I am aware of that SAAs like spironolactone, can show some weak agonistic effects in some cetain circumstances. However as far as i know, this effect in most of the cases is not clinically relevant and significant, particularly when it comes to hair and skin tissue and their adrogen-dependent issues.
Well SAAs such as spironolactone overally shows great anti-androgenic effect in hair and skin tissue and it has been shown in many studies to be highly effective against androgen-dependent skin tissues such as hirsutism, acne, seborhea as well as androgenic alopecia.
I think the fear of those uncertain weak agonistic effects should not withdraw people from taking them, particularily when it comes to treating androgen-dependent skin issues.
I think everyone who is interested in hormonal rout, should consider spironolactone as the first-line approach.
This drug also has a relatively nice safety profile and much less feminizing effect in comparison with NSAAs and there are much more clinical data and studies backing up its utility for manageing androgen-dependent skin issues such as androgenic alopecia.

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

Hi Buddy.
I am aware of that SAAs like spironolactone, can show some weak agonistic effects in some cetain circumstances. However as far as i know, this effect in most of the cases is not clinically relevant and significant, particularly when it comes to hair and skin tissue and their adrogen-dependent issues.
Well SAAs such as spironolactone overally shows great anti-androgenic effect in hair and skin tissue and it has been shown in many studies to be highly effective against androgen-dependent skin tissues such as hirsutism, acne, seborhea as well as androgenic alopecia.
I think the fear of those uncertain weak agonistic effects should not withdraw people from taking them, particularily when it comes to treating androgen-dependent skin issues.
I think everyone who is interested in hormonal rout, should consider spironolactone as the first-line approach.
This drug also has a relatively nice safety profile and much less feminizing effect in comparison with NSAAs and there are much more clinical data and studies backing up its utility for manageing androgen-dependent skin issues such as androgenic alopecia.

Then why am I not responding?

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

@Lindsay Freeman ; I will take 150 mg of bicalutamide. The pace at which I am thinning I can't take any risk. What side effects do you have on bicalutamide? Do you have insomnia?

 

[KamKar]

Then why am I not responding?

Well lack of response can not be easily conveys to its weak uncertain agonistic effect.
Remember the case report of spironolactone-induced reversal of alopecia in an old man whose hair has started to regrow after few years of taking it, so maybe it just need more time to show its effect.
I know there are some studies showing higher efficacy of NSAAs (particularly Flutamide) in comparison with spironolactone, however NSAAs also usually have generally less favorable safety profile and higher feminizing effects in comparison with spironolactone.
Even latest guidelines regarding management of androgenic alopecia in females, suggest spironolactone as the first-line approach if there is lack of enough response to rogaine.
NSAAs may be an option when spironolactone is proven to be ineffective in a case, but generally they should not being considered before spironolactone.
Hope it helps!