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JaneyElizabeth

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My goal is to achieve baldness arrest and reversal, avoiding side effects such as severe feminization, strong breast growth, muscle loss, etc.

Bicalutamide is my choice because it does not lead to feminization, but to demasculinization, which is acceptable for cis men and is within the acceptable range. Do you have any alternatives for cis men?

My regime: 50mg Bica + 1mg Finasteride
Are you anti-Min?
 

JaneyElizabeth

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My goal is to achieve baldness arrest and reversal, avoiding side effects such as severe feminization, strong breast growth, muscle loss, etc.

Bicalutamide is my choice because it does not lead to feminization, but to demasculinization, which is acceptable for cis men and is within the acceptable range. Do you have any alternatives for cis men?

My regime: 50mg Bica + 1mg Finasteride
Of course I do and I state them over and over but they aren't radical but completely mainstream. I think RU, fluridil, CB, alfatradiol, and estriol are a waste of time largely for most and I don't see much evidence that they are synergistic in practice. My vendor offers none of those. I have promoted easy to get oral min for many who can tolerate min.
 

Almas

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Okay but this is like pulling teeth. Can you print your entire protocol now and planned with doses.

What is your titration plan? Will you be posting pics? Of course, none of that is required but why should we heed your advice? Ultimately you are just a faceless guy on the internet who can say anything just like many of the others. This is essentially an orphan-thread now that has a point for existence but no purpose currently except we all like each other and chat and stuff but I am disappointed I admit that nobody is posting pics and nobody is very open about themselves.

Part of my shtick has been to try to make things interesting, polite, scientific but with visual evidence. Maybe nobody else seeks that and I will retire to my little thread but we were becoming a sowing circle without anyone putting forth thrilling content anymore.
If I manage to cure my aggressive baldness without severe side effects and reverse it, I will blow up this forum and help many balding guys who can repeat my regimen.
 

Almas

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Of course I do and I state them over and over but they aren't radical but completely mainstream. I think RU, fluridil, CB, alfatradiol, and estriol are a waste of time largely for most and I don't see much evidence that they are synergistic in practice. My vendor offers none of those. I have promoted easy to get oral min for many who can tolerate min.
Min only hides baldness, it does not stop the destructive effect of hormones. In the long term, it will lose its effectiveness, because it is impossible to compensate for the destruction of the follicles by androgens indefinitely. Min is not a solution to a problem, but a disguise
 

JaneyElizabeth

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If I manage to cure my aggressive baldness without severe side effects and reverse it, I will blow up this forum and help many balding guys who can repeat my regimen.
By doing what those other guys claim that they already did? I will patronize your thread and follow you but I am dubious but who cares what I think. Anyone who puts themselves out there, I support but if hope that means pics. Whatevr and the Hemingway guys tried and slunk away from their own threads yet remain active on the experimental ones.
 

JaneyElizabeth

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Min only hides baldness, it does not stop the destructive effect of hormones. In the long term, it will lose its effectiveness, because it is impossible to compensate for the destruction of the follicles by androgens indefinitely. Min is not a solution to a problem, but a disguise
There we go. That's any interesting viewpoint and I don't necessarily disagree with that but min could have hormonal or short-term "turbo" effects. I am really just trying to help you flesh out your thesis. My thesis is that someone who doesn't avoid estradiol at all and uses unlimited amounts can restore even the entire hairline.
 

Almas

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By doing what those other guys claim that they already did? I will patronize your thread and follow you but I am dubious but who cares what I think. Anyone who puts themselves out there, I support but if hope that means pics. Whatevr and the Hemingway guys tried and slunk away from their own threads yet remain active on the experimental ones.
Yes, I took photos, but I will post them when I have cured baldness. I removed them from the gallery and uploaded them to the cloud so as not to see them and spoil my mood

I intend to put an end to the problem of baldness, because finasteride and Duta are powerless for young people. I want early baldness to stop sounding like a sentence.
 

JaneyElizabeth

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Yes, I took photos, but I will post them when I have cured baldness. I removed them from the gallery and uploaded them to the cloud so as not to see them and spoil my mood

I intend to put an end to the problem of baldness, because finasteride and Duta are powerless for young people. I want early baldness to stop sounding like a sentence.
Again. That shows dedication and devotion without trying to get trans folks to follow you. I share your goal for the young and my heart bleeds for teen boys. I noticed exactly at 20 but at least not in secondary school.
 

Almas

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My thesis is that someone who doesn't avoid estradiol at all and uses unlimited amounts can restore even the entire hairline.
It's true. But estrogen has effects that cis men won't like. Maave rebuilt his growth line and whiskey with 100mg Bicalutamide. It's more palatable than estrogen, which will destroy your T and feminize you greatly. I see estrogen as the last thing to try. This is an option for the desperate and hopeless
 

JaneyElizabeth

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Again. That shows dedication and devotion without trying to get trans folks to follow you. I share your goal for the young and my heart bleeds for teen boys. I noticed exactly at 20 but at least not in secondary school.
But you understand. I also can't tell youngsters to just do things that might make them suffer medical conditions or make them shed worse.
 

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It's true. But estrogen has effects that cis men won't like. Maave rebuilt his growth line and whiskey with 100mg Bicalutamide. It's more palatable than estrogen, which will destroy your T and feminize you greatly. I see estrogen as the last thing to try. This is an option for the desperate and hopeless
Okay. I would be interested in helping you flesh that out but I hope you will make clear that any med though the liver for many years can be dangerous. Do you have long-run maintenance ideas so you don't take these forever? How will you know when enough is enough? Bio-feedback? Liver testing?
 

Almas

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Again. That shows dedication and devotion without trying to get trans folks to follow you. I share your goal for the young and my heart bleeds for teen boys. I noticed exactly at 20 but at least not in secondary school.
I will be very happy if I save at least one balding young man. Because baldness at a young age is a terrible disease. I don't want anyone to live through this
 

JaneyElizabeth

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I will be very happy if I save at least one balding young man. Because baldness at a young age is a terrible disease. I don't want anyone to live through this
I know but it's similar to the finasteride thing. If finasteride saves 100 young lives and one guy can't get it up anymore, it's probably worth it for people to try finasteride.
 

Almas

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Okay. I would be interested in helping you flesh that out but I hope you will make clear that any med though the liver for many years can be dangerous. Do you have long-run maintenance ideas so you don't take these forever? How will you know when enough is enough? Bio-feedback? Liver testing?
Bicalutamide shows its side effects during the first days or months if you have an individual intolerance. If you carry it, you are not in danger. You can have liver tests done once a year. If problems arise, you can take a break and start again.

But I think that if you do not have intolerance like older people with cancer, you are not in danger.
 

Almas

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I know but it's similar to the finasteride thing. If finasteride saves 100 young lives and one guy can't get it up anymore, it's probably worth it for people to try finasteride.
If you're balding before 20 years of age, I can guarantee that 5AP blockers won't even slow your progression. This is useless for young people, research is carried out on older people, and maintenance, i.e., holding three hairs, is considered a success.
 

JaneyElizabeth

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Bicalutamide shows its side effects during the first days or months if you have an individual intolerance. If you carry it, you are not in danger. You can have liver tests done once a year. If problems arise, you can take a break and start again.

But I think that if you do not have intolerance like older people with cancer, you are not in danger.
I make a big distinction between long and short-run and amounts also. Many MtF's won't use synthetics at all except for AA's. I use Premarin; I have tried spironolactone and use provera but my goal it to restore with unlimited pregnancy levels of estradiol and maybe a couple of the others like duta and then maintain at normal cis-female levels using only non-oral estradiol at ~300 to ~500 mg which I think is sustainable forever. My thesis is also that when hair is restored, fibrosis is gone at least for a while and that restored hair is back to square one and not dependent on anything for MtF's but estradiol. But you are right that I also think this will feminize everyone completely for the most part even if not visible through clothes.
 

Pls_NW-1

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Bicalutamide is safe for the long term, if your body is healthy. You should look for symptomes in the first months. If everything is okay, you're good, even for 20 years on bica without any health problems. I plan to use Bica for as long as I can, till I can't tolerate it. I hope that in 20-30 years, there is a "cure" for this sh*t.
 

Almas

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Bicalutamide is safe for the long term, if your body is healthy. You should look for symptomes in the first months. If everything is okay, you're good, even for 20 years on bica without any health problems. I plan to use Bica for as long as I can, till I can't tolerate it. I hope that in 20-30 years, there is a "cure" for this sh*t.
As long as very smart and busy scientists like Dr. Rassman believe DHT is the only culprit in baldness, we will not find a cure. Trichologists are rubbish who understands nothing about baldness
 

Pls_NW-1

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As long as very smart and busy scientists like Dr. Rassman believe DHT is the only culprit in baldness, we will not find a cure. Trichologists are rubbish who understands nothing about baldness
Very true, thats why I went to an andrologist. I will soon visit him again and talk with him about Bicalutamide.
 

JaneyElizabeth

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Bicalutamide is safe for the long term, if your body is healthy. You should look for symptomes in the first months. If everything is okay, you're good, even for 20 years on bica without any health problems. I plan to use Bica for as long as I can, till I can't tolerate it. I hope that in 20-30 years, there is a "cure" for this sh*t.
You guys are rapidly accumulating knowledge but I would encourage maybe an outline or a "coming out" presentation about what your hopes are, reasonable risks, etc. The goal of mine was to find a middle path but I am dubious but people should be dubious about everything related to regrowth of male hair. Please do consider for yourself, nothing to do with others or proving anything, therapeutic input like I get from my weekly therapist. Dysphoria can be deadly and it destroyed my life. But that's the past.

Even if the hair thing doesn't match your hopes, there are thrilling things to do in life, like travel to South America or take the train east to Siberia and China.... Join the French Foreign Legion...

I better finally sleep but in the words of my hair idol Brad Pitt:

"It's only after disaster can we be resurrected; it's only after you've lost everything that you are free to do anything.
 
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