Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[ReturnOfExtreme]

Well about me having bad hair genes I take that back. My genes are decent im 36 in a month with a full head of hair and nw2. You need hrt to keep your dumb hair on your head while I dont have to take or use anything to keep my hair. Infact all those treatments and reducing dht just makes my hair even worse. My hair litteraly improved after quitting dutasteride for example. Im gonna stay away from all treatments and only use my laser helmet from now on.

Why does it matter? You’re equally as much of a “man” to the others on this website. You’re all complaining about hair loss which isn’t exactly masculine, but men are entitled to have insecurities and whatever method they take to battle it doesn’t require judgement. You’re not any better, you’re also balding, so shush

 

[ReturnOfExtreme]

Believe or not some women are into shemales I've encountered many ... so you have a good chance to get back ur hair and get a woman so it's a win to win case scenario

This website is too funny sometimes

 

[losingbattle88]

Why does it matter? You’re equally as much of a “man” to the others on this website. You’re all complaining about hair loss which isn’t exactly masculine, but men are entitled to have insecurities and whatever method they take to battle it doesn’t require judgement. You’re not any better, you’re also balding, so shush

I only care about my hair because I would look Weird bald due to my tiny head thats it. Otherwise I would have buzzed it years ago. I even got teased in school for my head size despite having amazing thick hair. Thats why I fear going bald.

 

[Almas_NW0]

It’s ironic how incels always have the strongest opinions on how to attract women lmao

To understand what a woman wants, you must become a woman yourself

 

[rex1010]

All dutasteride did was reduce hairfall and gave sexual sides.

Too bad, I'm so sorry.

My doctor has treated thousands of people and he always tells me that in 97% of cases the hair loss stopped completely in 2-5 years. The guy is something like a data scientist so I get along pretty well with him and we act like autistic people with this sh*t, I've seen graphs made by him, so for me it's a bit of a magical medicine. In his opinion, that other 3% have quite aggressive genetics but can do some things like use minoxidil and consider Transplants every 7 yearss , it's just that he does not recommend RU because it is topical and topical does not usually have the same absorption as oral.

 

[rex1010]

The side effect of decreased semen quantity occurs in more than 20% of people, according to THEIR STATISTICS. Keep in mind that it is still clinical experience and not an absolute reality for everyone.

 

[Almas_NW0]

Anyone who has been with women knows that they are impossible to understand lol

The presence of high concentrations of estrogen in the body makes it possible to understand women. I begin to communicate with them telepathically.

 

[losingbattle88]

The side effect of decreased semen quantity occurs in more than 20% of people, according to THEIR STATISTICS. Keep in mind that it is still clinical experience and not an absolute reality for everyone.

Ye I got 1 drop of semen and very weak ejaculation force mostly just oozing. I get that on finasteride too. But less severe. After 1.5 years on dutasteride I was way below baseline and my hair actually got thicker and the thinning slowed wayyy down when I quit it. Probably the increase in T fucked my hair even more. I felt like I was on steroids on dutasteride pretty much.

 

[ReturnOfExtreme]

I only care about my hair because I would look Weird bald due to my tiny head thats it. Otherwise I would have buzzed it years ago. I even got teased in school for my head size despite having amazing thick hair. Thats why I fear going bald.

Then why are you demeaning others? You don’t know why other people are resorting to HRT

 

[ReturnOfExtreme]

It’s ironic how incels always have the strongest opinions on how to attract women lmao

This website + Reddit have been magnets for them, these people think it’s their appearance when it’s their personalities and income

 

[ReturnOfExtreme]

I just wanted to give an update with my hair history:

2019: Started estradiol (2mg/day), bicalutamide (50mg/day) and dutasteride (0.5mg/day). I saw a slight increase of hair growth but not much whatsoever.

2020: I added in oral minoxidil (5mg) and increased my estrogen dosage to 2mg twice a day. After adding the oral minoxidil, my hair growth was absolutely insane. My hairline became a NW1/NW0.5 and the density improved significantly. It took around 1-3 months to see improvements, but the improvements became significant after 6 months with the density. Probably because the hairs were long enough at that point.

2021: I had no issues with my hair but instead hypertrichosis, my forehead just became hairy and my body hair thicker too much. I began waxing my forehead to make my hairline look rounded.

2022: Nothing notable besides synchronized shedding.

2023: I stopped taking dutasteride in January 2023 and saw no difference, then I stopped taking oral minoxidil due to the dosage being way too high, so I had a theory that I could maintain the density with the estradiol and bicalutamide. I found out that you can, but the hairline hairs fall out because it’s artificial density, and my overall density became less due to shedding, but there’s regrowth.

2024: I’ve decided to start taking 1.25mg per day now that I’ve managed to get rid of the forehead hair issue, but it came with the consequence of losing my NW0.5 hairline, overall density and thickness of individual hairs, eyelash thickness, etc. So, I’m going to see what happens.

 

[ReturnOfExtreme]

So, with taking 1.25MG of oral minoxidil, I’m hoping to just have more scalp density and hairline density but without the severe hypertrichosis and annoyance of water retention in my face.

 

[rex1010]

So, with taking 1.25MG of oral minoxidil, I’m hoping to just have more scalp density and hairline density but without the severe hypertrichosis and annoyance of water retention in my face.

Solid experience.

I'll ask a few questions, if you have time to answer.

*OM Side effects? I was also on 5mg OM and had Pedal Edema, with 2.5mg it disappeared.
*dutasteride every day or EoD?

 

[rex1010]

This is my story

2020-I : I barely noticed NW2 and started Topical Minoxidil, the worst mistake of my life tbh
2020-ll : Stopped Minoxidil
2021-ll : I was losing my hair like crazy, went through a period of stress, my f*****g head was full of grease and dandruff, that sh*t was a broth of androgens, I was about to reach NW3 Wizard.
2021-ll : I started using Dutasteride and Minoxidil Topico again (Norwood 2,5++)
2022-ll : I stop Topical Minoxidil and start Oral Minoxidil, although I remember that stopped Topical Minoxidil progressively (Norwood 2)
2023-l : Hair Transplant (NW2)
2024-l : Norwood 1?

 

[ReturnOfExtreme]

Solid experience.

I'll ask a few questions, if you have time to answer.

*OM Side effects? I was also on 5mg OM and had Pedal Edema, with 2.5mg it disappeared.
*dutasteride every day or EoD?

OM side effects for me were: hypertrichosis, water retention, but that’s all really. Very early with taking oral minoxidil, I had heart palpitations but it went away. Did you experience bad hypertrichosis with 2.5?

Dutasteride was daily

 

[ReturnOfExtreme]

This is my story

2020-I : I barely noticed NW2 and started Topical Minoxidil, the worst mistake of my life tbh
2020-ll : Stopped Minoxidil
2021-ll : I was losing my hair like crazy, went through a period of stress, my f*****g head was full of grease and dandruff, that sh*t was a broth of androgens, I was about to reach NW3 Wizard.
2021-ll : I started using Dutasteride and Minoxidil Topico again (Norwood 2,5++)
2022-ll : I stop Topical Minoxidil and start Oral Minoxidil, although I remember that stopped Topical Minoxidil progressively (Norwood 2)
2023-l : Hair Transplant (NW2)
2024-l : Norwood 1?

I’ve noticed that oral minoxidil requires estrogen in the scalp to work, so dutasteride and oral minoxidil will work but I’m not sure how long. For people on anti-androgens and estrogen, the combination is better for hair growth…

 

[Pey'J]

Does anyone know if having 1000 ng/dl test and <5 (0) dht will cause problems for hair???

 

[Balengu]

I found out that 15mg was too high a dosage and my E levels were getting too high. So much so that my E a month after stopping injections was 200pg/ml. Enanthate had a cumulative effect that I did not take into account. 10 mg is the optimal dosage.

My skin became smooth in probably a couple of weeks. Facial feminization became noticeable after about 4-5 months. It's hard for me to remember how it was. You can simply look at the timelines of changes in transgender people to get an idea of what changes you will get and in what time frame.
After 6 months, changes in the body and face stopped.

Hello Almas,
when you say facial feminization occurs after 4-5 months, you mean that the suppression of Testosterone occurs after 4-5 months too ? in other words, do you need T suppression in order to get the facial feminization to happen ?

also, the good effect of hrt on hair is visible after 4-5 months as well when facial feminization starts ?

thanks a lot

 

[Balengu]

Same happened to me but in my case, I'm that unlucky that I'm losing my quality of hair and my temples fast paced even with HRT bicalutamide dutasteride and oral minoxidil, so trust me I'm in a waay worse spot than you are, literally 0 androgens and low as fck A diol G and I'm still suffering from all the sh*t mentioned above. I supplement vitamin b12 vitamin D checked my thyroid and nothing ever seems to help.

have you ever heard of fem21 ?

 

[Almas_NW0]

Hello Almas,
when you say facial feminization occurs after 4-5 months, you mean that the suppression of Testosterone occurs after 4-5 months too ? in other words, do you need T suppression in order to get the facial feminization to happen ?

also, the good effect of hrt on hair is visible after 4-5 months as well when facial feminization starts ?

thanks a lot

When you give the injection, testosterone is suppressed for a couple of days.