Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[SavingMyHair]

DHT is just a trash hormone that in some ppl it will be near impossible to eliminate. Every adrenal androgen is capable to convert in tissue to T and DHT. Even if you have literally 0 T 0 DHT and low 3a diol G in serum you could have high peripheral androgen convertion from DHEA-S or androstenedione. Even if DHEA-S and androstenedione are low, you could be unlucky enough to synthesize most of your T/DHT in your scalp because scalp has many androgen receptors and if you add that in top of that those receptors on balding men especially young ones are very sensitive, you have the formula for the disaster. 3a diol G could sound like it is a good test to see peripheral androgens but even that is not enough to really see what is happening on your scalp specifically unless you do a biopsy on different zones of your scalp. Same goes for the skin or the organ you'd like to know.

 

[BRezende]

DHT is just a trash hormone that in some ppl it will be near impossible to eliminate. Every adrenal androgen is capable to convert in tissue to T and DHT. Even if you have literally 0 T 0 DHT and low 3a diol G in serum you could have high peripheral androgen convertion from DHEA-S or androstenedione. Even if DHEA-S and androstenedione are low, you could be unlucky enough to synthesize most of your T/DHT in your scalp because scalp has many androgen receptors and if you add that in top of that those receptors on balding men especially young ones are very sensitive, you have the formula for the disaster. 3a diol G could sound like it is a good test to see peripheral androgens but even that is not enough to really see what is happening on your scalp specifically unless you do a biopsy on different zones of your scalp. Same goes for the skin or the organ you'd like to know.

i remember you you had diffuse thinning as me and you was trying HRT+bica+oral duta every 2 days + oral minoxidil, you didnt recover your hiar? did you ever tried to block the adrenal androgens with dexamathesone or something like that?

 

[SnortingFinasteride]

The fact we are taking *Estradiol* for hair is f*****g abhorrent

 

[SavingMyHair]

i remember you you had diffuse thinning as me and you was trying HRT+bica+oral duta every 2 days + oral minoxidil, you didnt recover your hiar? did you ever tried to block the adrenal androgens with dexamathesone or something like that?

Im using daily dutasteride btw, but yeah i never managed to stop my hairloss, but I dont want to use corticosteroids because those stuff are scary long term and tbh I dont want to recover hair thanks to that because if it gives me issue which could with time i would have to stop and lose hair again. Also my acth, 17 oh prog and cortisol are in normal values, now I will test 17-Deoxycortisol and 17 deoxycorticosterone

 

[BRezende]

Im using daily dutasteride btw, but yeah i never managed to stop my hairloss, but I dont want to use corticosteroids because those stuff are scary long term and tbh I dont want to recover hair thanks to that because if it gives me issue which could with time i would have to stop and lose hair again. Also my acth, 17 oh prog and cortisol are in normal values, now I will test 17-Deoxycortisol and 17 deoxycorticosterone

Soo you stopped all other meds beside duta,?
Did you tried spirolactone yet?

 

[SavingMyHair]

Soo you stopped all other meds beside duta,?
Did you tried spirolactone yet?

No, you said I was using dutasteride every 2 days and I corrected that. I'm still using everything but with underwhelming results if I am really honest.

I tried spironolactone with no success

 

[BRezende]

@GRme11 you still around? any update?

 

[BRezende]

Hi, maybe some of you guys remember me… So I decided to give a try to HRT to save/reverse my hairloss. Unfortunately NOTHING works on me.

I have been on 50mg bicalutamide ed + 4 mg estradiol + 10mg oral minoxidil ed + 0.5mg dutasteride ed + 1mg finasteride ed + 150mg RU58841 + 20mg Pyrilutamide (2 x 10mg) + Topical minoxidil 2 x day + Rosemary Oil ed

My blood test after 1 month on HRT:
T: 1.5nmol/l
E2: 239 pg/ml
DHT: 39pg/ml

After 3 months:
T: 0.9nmol/l
E2: 289pg/ml
DHT: 26pg/ml

After 6 months:
T: 0.6nmol/l
E2: 233pg/ml
DHT: undetectable

I also did a blood test for thyroid tsh, ft3, ft4, ferritin, iron, b12, prolactin and everything was fine.


It slowed down a bit my hair loss but after 8 months my hairs are thinner. My crown is much thinner, still receeding, temple peaks literally disapeared, my hairs are still miniaturizing.

All I want to say to you guys, HRT - even with proper female levels, even with undetectable DHT values is not guarantee to hairloss. As you can see for example on Reddit /femalehairloss a lot of women with normal female hormone levels are going bald too. They have diffuse thinning/female pattern baldness/receeding hairlines etc.

If you want to try HRT/pyrilutamide/RU etc. of course you can do it, but remember that there is no GUARANTEE to stop/reverse hairloss.

shits like this make me sad af.

 

[SnortingFinasteride]

shits like this make me sad af.

f*** Estradiol honestly. Like why does this sh*t hormone gives you permanent D cups, but isn't a guarantee to regrow your hair ?

 

[sg2000]

dark and others sent photos to prove it

 

[Almas_NW0]

Kinda wanna start HRT again, but after looking at all this garbade and recalling all it did to me, not so much anymore.

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[SavingMyHair]

I think you meant 11-Deoxycorticosterone. =) Do you work with endo btw? Cause mine said that steroid tests need to be taken together as one panel.

Yeah i mean those one. I dont work with an endo it is all DIY

 

[exwhyyou]

U b**ch femboy bahahhaha.

bro stfu @sg2000 is rapidly gaining aura thanks to his regimen. he was fucked, now he's cool. don't look down on people for taking risks that you're afraid to take, keep drinking alone and see where it gets you

 

[exwhyyou]

The fact we are taking *Estradiol* for hair is f*****g abhorrent

look around bro. everyone's satisfied with sh*t hair in this godawful society. estradiol is a far better solution than going out in public whilst accepting a subpar look and having no self confidence. i actually have value now when pre-estrogen i was getting worse and worse by the day

 

[exwhyyou]

"it's okay if i have sh*t hair as long as someone agrees to have sex with me!" is the worst attitude plaguing humanity right now


EDIT: this was kind of a crazy post lol

 

[losingbattle88]

bro stfu @sg2000 is rapidly gaining aura thanks to his regimen. he was fucked, now he's cool. don't look down on people for taking risks that you're afraid to take, keep drinking alone and see where it gets you

a cool woman indeed. Imagine having to take estrogen to grow something as simple as hair on your head. Talk about being fucked from birth xD

 

[exwhyyou]

a cool woman indeed. Imagine having to take estrogen to grow something as simple as hair on your head. Talk about being fucked from birth xD

he looks like a guy and acts like a guy

 

[losingbattle88]

he looks like a guy and acts like a guy

not underneth his clothes lmao. Man u gay too? Sharing pics with him lol.

 

[SnortingFinasteride]

@Mr. Slap Head I miss you daddy :/

 

[exwhyyou]

f*** Estradiol honestly. Like why does this sh*t hormone gives you permanent D cups, but isn't a guarantee to regrow your hair ?

first of all, who the hell is getting d cups from this sh*t? you need progesterone for big tits and most of us are afraid to take it because of dht consequences. second of all, the people who aren't regrowing on hrt are failing to take into account other lifestyle factors that affect hair. to have good hair you have to consider it in every single action you take, unless you have gigachad genetics, which none of us do, far from it.