Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[Adri23]

I tried clobetasol once and it instantly killed my hair for some reason. =(
Fully agree that antioxidants and anti inflammatory are must, testing oridonin, isoliquiritigenin and wogonin atm.

Damn thats not great. Clobetasol give me sh*t texture too.

Im using Glynac, vitamin C, astaxanthin, Vitamin E, Vitamin D3 and K2, melatonin 4 mg, magnesium, zinc, copper and omega 3 DHA and EPA at the moment.

The melatonin also contain some vitamin B1, B12, B6 and 5-HTP

 

[Adri23]

Not bad! Aside from oridonin, isoliquiritigenin and wogonin, i use only ascorbic acid, D3+K2, Zinc, q10, curcumin and B complex.
Melatonin is great, agreed.

Those are some great ones. I forgot I also drink matcha Tea sometimes and used to take turmeric with black peppermint, but not taking it rn (tho I want to start it again)

 

[Adri23]

My hairs are kinda fucked btw. =(
Apart from crown kinda okish.
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But crown seems pretty fked. =(
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It is kinda bad, it reminds me of my scalp before the supplements, my crown was very similar if not the same as yours. For some reason supplements did the trick for me. I guess cycling clobetasol does something too, but idk how much since with clobetasol alone my crown was still red af.

Have you tried different topical corticosteroids? Maybe those do not kill your hair, clobetasol is a very potent one.

 

[Adri23]

Do you have oily scalp? If you do maybe it is Seb derm and the bic was reducing your sebum and ketoconazole was killing the Malassezia

 

[Adri23]

My trichologist said i don't, but i often had seasonal escalation of sebum and inflammation, so I suspect having it in the end.

Trichologist are useless most of the time. I bet we know more than them lol. You prob have it. Like it is a very frequent skin pathology, so if it improved with ketoconazole + bica I would say it was likely that(maybe some reduction of local androgens with the bica was helping with the inflammation as well)

 

[Adri23]

Ye, agreed. Just made an appointment with another one via app. We'll see what he say.
Video where the crown start. Scary. =(
https://www.veed.io/edit/dfd21ebe-14ec-42e4-ae52-abc12f16caed/video

Hope that one is at least better than the other.

I see some chaos on that video, and a bit of buildup but not too much. The redness is alarming tho, cause we know inflammation triggers hair loss.

 

[Ukraine]

Интересно, почему никто не использует E4 (Estetrol), его профиль безопасности лучше по сравнению с E2. Однако он гораздо слабее эстрадиола. Но я немного недоумеваю, его сродство с ERß в несколько раз выше, чем с ERa. Я правильно понял? https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8566418/

его аффинность связывания с ERα почти в 5 раз выше, чем у ERβ (таблица 2).

 

[losingbattle88]

Hope that one is at least better than the other.

I see some chaos on that video, and a bit of buildup but not too much. The redness is alarming tho, cause we know inflammation triggers hair loss.

Its actually sad that it has been so long and you still havent fixed your hairloss yet and still experimenting with stuff, It must have taken a toll on your life. U overdose on dutasteride, killed your balls.... I mean when will it end? Even when we solve hairloss we will never be truely satisfied with our selves and new problems will arise. Its a never ending story. We all are fixated on our appearance in this thread. We are all mentally sick.

 

[coco_304]

Its actually sad that it has been so long and you still havent fixed your hairloss yet and still experimenting with stuff, It must have taken a toll on your life. U overdose on dutasteride, killed your balls.... I mean when will it end? Even when we solve hairloss we will never be truely satisfied with our selves and new problems will arise. Its a never ending story. We all are fixated on our appearance in this thread. We are all mentally sick.

agree

 

[coco_304]

agree

״Its a never ending story״
You summed it up best.

 

[losingbattle88]

״Its a never ending story״
You summed it up best.

I have battled hairloss since age 23. Im now 37. So yeah.....but im hopeful right now because I seem to have achieved maintenance and possibly slight thickening.

 

[BRezende]

@Adri23 you still shedding in the sides and back if your hair?

 

[SnortingFinasteride]

Its actually sad that it has been so long and you still havent fixed your hairloss yet and still experimenting with stuff, It must have taken a toll on your life. U overdose on dutasteride, killed your balls.... I mean when will it end? Even when we solve hairloss we will never be truely satisfied with our selves and new problems will arise. Its a never ending story. We all are fixated on our appearance in this thread. We are all mentally sick.

Some people spit facts, you spit fire

 

[Adri23]

Its actually sad that it has been so long and you still havent fixed your hairloss yet and still experimenting with stuff, It must have taken a toll on your life.

Ofc it does. I have stopped doing things I enjoy just to try to fix this. It literally broke my life in pieces for years. Idk if it will ever end tbh

U overdose on dutasteride, killed your balls.... I mean when will it end?

Hopefully whenever my baldness slow down at the very least, but I don't even know if my powder is dutasteride... Will figure in a month.

Even when we solve hairloss we will never be truely satisfied with our selves and new problems will arise.

I have other issues too so yes even if I manage to control hair loss I will still not be happy

Its a never ending story. We all are fixated on our appearance in this thread. We are all mentally sick.

sh*t genetics leads to mental illness, it is what it is, I am trying to 'fix' as many downsides my genetic have.

 

[Adri23]

@Adri23 you still shedding in the sides and back if your hair?

I dont shed that much but I never recovered my hair on sides no matter what. Only longer hair hides it. Back is kinda bad but I hope it can recover if the dutasteride is legit

 

[coco_304]

Someone have experience with hair loss from excess vitamin A consumption?

 

[BRezende]

Hope it'll never end! We are approaching the paradigm of continuous self-improvement through constant effort to perfect our imperfect bodies this way. This path provides a reliable route towards genuine understanding of the gnosieological principle that the more knowledge we acquire, the clearer it becomes that we know nothing—a foundational pillar upon which epistemological relativism is based. Such comprehension inevitably leads us toward philosophical agnosticism, a theory positing that under our current physical and cognitive conditions, we are unable to grasp categories such as absolute, good or evil. And the realization of the insignificance of these values in our current reality only gives us more freedom and opens new paths for improvement—like a gentle breeze dispersing the dust of past delusions, leaving an open space for new bold endeavors.
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Lmao where the f*** did you got this image? You did yourself? XDDDD

 

[Adri23]

Hope it'll never end! We are approaching the paradigm of continuous self-improvement through constant effort to perfect our imperfect bodies this way. This path provides a reliable route towards genuine understanding of the gnosieological principle that the more knowledge we acquire, the clearer it becomes that we know nothing—a foundational pillar upon which epistemological relativism is based. Such comprehension inevitably leads us toward philosophical agnosticism, a theory positing that under our current physical and cognitive conditions, we are unable to grasp categories such as absolute, good or evil. And the realization of the insignificance of these values in our current reality only gives us more freedom and opens new paths for improvement on the way to a true understanding of them.
This old illustration fully represents everything mentioned above:

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If you did this, you're a complete genius

 

[sg2000]

Hope it'll never end! We are approaching the paradigm of continuous self-improvement through constant effort to perfect our imperfect bodies this way. This path provides a reliable route towards genuine understanding of the gnosieological principle that the more knowledge we acquire, the clearer it becomes that we know nothing—a foundational pillar upon which epistemological relativism is based. Such comprehension inevitably leads us toward philosophical agnosticism, a theory positing that under our current physical and cognitive conditions, we are unable to grasp categories such as absolute, good or evil. And the realization of the insignificance of these values in our current reality only gives us more freedom and opens new paths for improvement on the way to a true understanding of them.
This old illustration fully represents everything mentioned above:

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ok realistically which is the most effective?
E2 injections or estrogel lol

 

[sg2000]

@BeardCombover What do you think should i add to my regimen to keep my hair and stop miniaturization till my 70s now that ive dropped cpa?
my Current regimen: Dutasteride 0.5 mg,oral minoxidil 5 mg,estradiol enanthate injections 12 mg every 10 days and hydrocortisone butyrrate 3 times a week