Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[Derek Clapton]

You can try to use tret as well

How do you use it? As in, in what form? I bought some powder a while ago and add it to topical min but haven't noticed much. It also seems to make the liquid turn brown.

 

[Adri23]

How do you use it? As in, in what form? I bought some powder a while ago and add it to topical min but haven't noticed much. It also seems to make the liquid turn brown.

I just use it at the hairline, temples and behind the hairline. I apply the cream and let it absorb then I use minoxidil. If you use minoxidil on the entire scalp it is not practical at all

 

[Derek Clapton]

There is/was a product that had min with tret also, and since they seem to be synergistic I just copied that. Unless there is a benefit to using them separately I see no reason to not mix them together. Not sure what you mean by the last sentence - I try (difficult because such tiny amounts) to add it at 0.025% so it's absolutely practical at that dosage.

 

[Adri23]

There is/was a product that had min with tret also, and since they seem to be synergistic I just copied that. Unless there is a benefit to using them separately I see no reason to not mix them together.

I do not mix them together because for me it is easier to use the cream that I use on my entire face anyways and use some on hairline and temple areas which is where I apply minoxidil.

Not sure what you mean by the last sentence - I try (difficult because such tiny amounts) to add it at 0.025% so it's absolutely practical at that dosage.

I was trying to say that using the cream on the whole scalp is not practical

 

[Derek Clapton]

OK. The reason I use the powder with min is because the cream would be more expensive as you say, plus more hassle. But maybe it's more effective - this is what I don't know.

 

[Adri23]

OK. The reason I use the powder with min is because the cream would be more expensive as you say, plus more hassle. But maybe it's more effective - this is what I don't know.

The cream is cheap in my country. Idk about yours. And it last me like 6-8 months even with daily use on the entire face. You could try to buy the cream and use it only on temples and hairline to be sure it is being effective at least on hairline and temples where it is easier to apply

 

[Derek Clapton]

I live in the UK where everything is expensive. 20g of 0.025% is ~ £12. I doubt that would last long, but if it's more effective than adding powder to min then I'd try it. This is where I am unsure - does just adding powder to topicals work? IDK why but it makes the min turn brown after a few days so presumably some kind of reaction is happening but IDK what as I'm not a chemist.

 

[Adri23]

I live in the UK where everything is expensive. 20g of 0.025% is ~ £12. I doubt that would last long, but if it's more effective than adding powder to min then I'd try it. This is where I am unsure - does just adding powder to topicals work? IDK why but it makes the min turn brown after a few days so presumably some kind of reaction is happening but IDK what as I'm not a chemist.

Lol mine is £17 for 20g so yours is def cheaper. Mine last 6-8 months even using it daily on my entire face .

Idk but turning brown doesnt sound ok. I used to mix my tretinoin cream with minoxidil before and my Minoxidil never changed color.

 

[losingbattle88]

Lol mine is £17 for 20g so yours is def cheaper. Mine last 6-8 months even using it daily on my entire face .

Idk but turning brown doesnt sound ok. I used to mix my tretinoin cream with minoxidil before and my Minoxidil never changed color.

You hold the record of the longest regimen. Its like reading a book lmao xD

 

[Adri23]

You hold the record of the longest regimen. Its like reading a book lmao xD

Quite an extensive regimen

 

[Derek Clapton]

Lol mine is £17 for 20g so yours is def cheaper. Mine last 6-8 months even using it daily on my entire face .

Idk but turning brown doesnt sound ok. I used to mix my tretinoin cream with minoxidil before and my Minoxidil never changed color.

One tube lasts 6-8 months on your face? So about the same for your hair? Much better than I imagined since creams will get stuck in your hair etc as well I'd expect 20g to last 2 weeks or something.

Yes the colour aspect is a bit strange - obviously some kind of reaction going on but no idea what.

 

[Adri23]

One tube lasts 6-8 months on your face?

Face + hair and sometimes even neck. You dont have to use that much, it is not like a moisturizer.

So about the same for your hair?

If you use it only on temples and hairline it can last years tbh. I think it would expire before you end it.

Much better than I imagined since creams will get stuck in your hair etc as well I'd expect 20g to last 2 weeks or something.

Well, it is not practical to use on your entire scalp for obvious reasons. The cream is good for hairline and temples because the skin is not surrounded by hair everywhere. Also when you apply tretinoin it expand further when it warms in your skin so it can reach the back of your hairline too.

"It is important to understand that creams melt as they warm on the skin, which makes them migrate farther out from where they were initially applied."

Yes the colour aspect is a bit strange - obviously some kind of reaction going on but no idea what.

I would be concerned.. what if it loses potency?

 

[losingbattle88]

Face + hair and sometimes even neck. You dont have to use that much, it is not like a moisturizer.

If you use it only on temples and hairline it can last years tbh. I think it would expire before you end it.

Well, it is not practical to use on your entire scalp for obvious reasons. The cream is good for hairline and temples because the skin is not surrounded by hair everywhere. Also when you apply tretinoin it expand further when it warms in your skin so it can reach the back of your hairline too.

"It is important to understand that creams melt as they warm on the skin, which makes them migrate farther out from where they were initially applied."


I would be concerned.. what if it loses potency?

Man I got a feminine gay guy on snapchat and he dress up as a drag queen..... Hes like 24 or 25 and his hair has gotten real thin... I mean to the point of needing a buzzcut... I wonder why he hasnt started on finasteride or min or even HRT. He uses wig when he dress up like drag often. But damn how thinning hair fucks with your looks. God damn it. Im glad im on finasteride and min AT LEAST.

 

[Adri23]

Man I got a feminine gay guy on snapchat and he dress up as a drag queen..... Hes like 24 or 25 and his hair has gotten real thin... I mean to the point of needing a buzzcut... I wonder why he hasnt started on finasteride or min or even HRT. He uses wig when he dress up like drag often. But damn how thinning hair fucks with your looks. God damn it. Im glad im on finasteride and min AT LEAST.

Thinning hair destroys ones look. If he is gay and feminine I see no point for him not to use hrt tbh. Even me as a straight guy and masculine presentation use HRT out of desperation. Will never understand why feminine gays wouldnt use HRT.

 

[losingbattle88]

Thinning hair destroys ones look. If he is gay and feminine I see no point for him not to use hrt tbh. Even me as a straight guy and masculine presentation use HRT out of desperation. Will never understand why feminine gays wouldnt use HRT.

Truth preach brother love ya.

 

[Derek Clapton]

Face + hair and sometimes even neck. You dont have to use that much, it is not like a moisturizer.

If you use it only on temples and hairline it can last years tbh. I think it would expire before you end it.

Well, it is not practical to use on your entire scalp for obvious reasons. The cream is good for hairline and temples because the skin is not surrounded by hair everywhere. Also when you apply tretinoin it expand further when it warms in your skin so it can reach the back of your hairline too.

"It is important to understand that creams melt as they warm on the skin, which makes them migrate farther out from where they were initially applied."


I would be concerned.. what if it loses potency?

I'll get a tube and try in that case - thanks for the info. TBH I always feel more is better so that is useful to know that it spreads and you don't need much. Minoxidil has never done much for me so I wondered if tret would help with the conversion that doesn't happen for some people.

Yeah I agree on the colour change but I don't know any chemistry to know what it means. The powder is a yellow kind of colour so maybe it just takes a while to colour the minoxidil? IDK.

 

[Adri23]

I'll get a tube and try in that case - thanks for the info. TBH I always feel more is better so that is useful to know that it spreads and you don't need much. Minoxidil has never done much for me so I wondered if tret would help with the conversion that doesn't happen for some people.

Yeah try it for some time. I have low sulfotransferase (I did a genetic test) and topical min is working good thanks to the tret cream, so give it a try.

Yeah I agree on the colour change but I don't know any chemistry to know what it means. The powder is a yellow kind of colour so maybe it just takes a while to colour the minoxidil? IDK.

Yeah maybe is that but I dont think you wont lose anything but using some cream on the hairline and temples, maybe it gives a boost

 

[coco_304]

I honestly think that HRT is really necessary in just 3 cases. Either you must be trans, having serious medical conditions caused by testosterone, or suffering from "testosterone poisoning" in its traditional meaning.
"Testosterone poisoning is a popular term used to explain behaviors that are deemed excessively masculine."
So basically, if testosterone induces uncontrollable behavior, where you can't be calm and think clearly when needed.
In my case, I need to be calm all the time to think clearly, because (by nature) when I'm not thinking clearly, I get instadepressed. TBH, I started HRT out of curiosity to see what effects it'll cause and was pretty sure to quit at some point, but stayed ultimately for this one effect (which btw I realised only recently). Other "meds for calmness" weren't even close in terms of quality and naturalness. Its like long lost childlike spontaneity suddenly reawakened with all its perks, like constant contemplation and seeing things as they are intended by nature, but with the additional adult ability of seeing the big picture. Honestly, looking back on my post-pubescent years, they now resemble the goofy attempt of an uncanny anthropomorphic creature to imitate how humans think and feel, while its constantly being FKed by firware, forcing it to be edgy..
Sry, got a little carried away. So basically, what I was trying to say... If feminine gay guy is comfortable in his role (not trans), doesn't have serious testosterone induced illnesses and can think straight (not mind-poisoned by T), honestly, no HRT is needed IMO. Again, HRT just for hair to me smells a bit of rather delulu, or there is another hidden reason. And that reason might be hidden from the owner himself, like it was in my case.

Do you think that taking aspirin 100mg a week its not reduce the efficiency of minoxidil?

 

[coco_304]

It will somehow. By how much, no clue, seems pretty individual. Again, not gonna recommend, but in my case I'd tried it if I sensed scalp inflammation.

How much time do you take it, that it help?

 

[sg2000]

@Adri23 How is your hair doing?
last week i took my last cpa pill.
Im shedding like crazy and maybe im back to baseline (almost) wtf this sheds f*****g destroy me and myself esteem!!!I think the seasonal shed hit me too. I hope that in a few weeks or months im gonna regain everything and f*****g keep it!!