Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[pentobean]

Does anyone know any good hair regrowth boosters other than minoxidil? Oral minoxidil gives me a bloated red face
I use derma stamping and ghk-cu
Maybe I’ll need another

 

[GRme11]

Does anyone know any good hair regrowth boosters other than minoxidil? Oral minoxidil gives me a bloated red face
I use derma stamping and ghk-cu
Maybe I’ll need another

Topical minoxidil with Tretinoin. There isn’t any other substantial hair growth booster like minoxidil. All others are doing almost nothing.

 

[losingbattle88]

Does anyone know any good hair regrowth boosters other than minoxidil? Oral minoxidil gives me a bloated red face
I use derma stamping and ghk-cu
Maybe I’ll need another

Low dose max 3mg dont give bloated or red face. U are experiencing a placebo effect most likely. I rather be bald than to be a slave to topical min or any other topical.

 

[Seanrutty]

Systemic sides bro.

What is there is none??

 

[Seanrutty]

Thing is if you are gonna use estradiol bica is best. But if not bica can be an issue if you have aromatization issues, cause T normally aromatize into T, but if you have a sh*t aromatase enzyme like me, all the T will just be transformed into DHT so you will need dutasteride 100%, but you will end with no main hormone. If your body is good at aromatizing T you will end up with highish e2(not sure how much since I've never tried bica mono + im bad aromatizer) which will be worse than using estradiol + bica cause if you want to make bica works on a T dominant body you will indeed need large bica dosages and you will risk liver issues.

On the other hand cpa is better lowering T alone but has lot of side effect + prolactin elevations that could destroy your hair and even increase DHEA-S.

Imo if you are going for the oral anti androgen route it's best to use estradiol + dutasteride cause antiandrogens alone or combined with dutas is not good long term cause your body need a main hormone to be healthy + you will run liver issues eventually.

For short term you have expensive sh*t like GnRH agonists which will shut down T production but again you wont have any sex hormone and you will have troubles

Okay going to the derm tomorrow.. this is gonna be a long message.. I know it’s not facts but I like all your opinions on this.. okay reflex hyperandro is real trust me and if you don’t agree that’s fine but for the sake of this convo let’s say it’s real.. the body unregulates and either makes the dht become more or makes more dense 5ar.. so tons of questions here.. do you think it would be permanent?? I’m on finasteride now again after 20 years and so far no oil face no crazy sex drive like before but 4 months in still shedding like I said so idk if it’s reflex kicking back in what do you think?? Also ppl said use dutasteride its stronger and blocks 1 and 2 but if reflex is real if finasteride did it to me wouldn’t dutasteride do it times ten?? Also if reflex is real do yall think topical finasteride or topical dutasteride would cause reflex yes I know it goes into the system but I just want ppls opinon.. thanks for all responses I know there’s like 6 different questions..

 

[Adri23]

Okay going to the derm tomorrow.. this is gonna be a long message.. I know it’s not facts but I like all your opinions on this.. okay reflex hyperandro is real trust me and if you don’t agree that’s fine but for the sake of this convo let’s say it’s real.. the body unregulates and either makes the dht become more or makes more dense 5ar.. so tons of questions here.. do you think it would be permanent?? I’m on finasteride now again after 20 years and so far no oil face no crazy sex drive like before but 4 months in still shedding like I said so idk if it’s reflex kicking back in what do you think?? Also ppl said use dutasteride its stronger and blocks 1 and 2 but if reflex is real if finasteride did it to me wouldn’t dutasteride do it times ten?? Also if reflex is real do yall think topical finasteride or topical dutasteride would cause reflex yes I know it goes into the system but I just want ppls opinon.. thanks for all responses I know there’s like 6 different questions..

If it was true estradiol + dutasteride would solve it because you would nuke your androgens

 

[Seanrutty]

If it was true estradiol + dutasteride would solve it because you would

 

[Seanrutty]

What’s your thoughts on topical finasteride or topical dutasteride??

 

[pentobean]

Low dose max 3mg dont give bloated or red face. U are experiencing a placebo effect most likely. I rather be bald than to be a slave to topical min or any other topical.

I take 1.2mg a day and it still bloats my face the next morning I wake up with a red puffy face too, since I stopped it’s gone

 

[pentobean]

What’s your thoughts on topical finasteride or topical dutasteride??

Top dutasteride doesn’t work there’s research on it, it doesn’t enter the scalp so it’s pointless

 

[Seanrutty]

Top dutasteride doesn’t work there’s research on it, it doesn’t enter the scalp so it’s pointless

So as far as reflex hyperandro and I did get it.. heres a good question I got it back 20 years ago when I was 21 took finasteride and bam sex drive went up so bad I had to jack off like 8 times a day I got upper arm hair growth and watched tonsssss of hair far I remember lookin at it come out and just not grow back at all not even miniurized.. here I am 20 years later 4 months on finasteride hair shedding still no stability but no crazy sex drive this time no oily face.. why is that??

 

[Adri23]

So as far as reflex hyperandro and I did get it.. heres a good question I got it back 20 years ago when I was 21 took finasteride and bam sex drive went up so bad I had to jack off like 8 times a day I got upper arm hair growth and watched tonsssss of hair far I remember lookin at it come out and just not grow back at all not even miniurized.. here I am 20 years later 4 months on finasteride hair shedding still no stability but no crazy sex drive this time no oily face.. why is that??

Could just be because finasteride lowers DHT but increases T. With aging, T declines and even if T increases lt wouldnt big high enough than when you were in your twenties

 

[Seanrutty]

Could just be because finasteride lowers DHT but increases T. With aging, T declines and even if T increases lt wouldnt big high enough than when you were in your twenties

Oh dang that makes sense.. I was always kinda wondering maybe at 21 I wasn’t fully done with puberty because I still had no upper leg hair and I’d shave my face and it would take a week to start coming back in but now it’s stubbled in 5 hours..

 

[Adri23]

Oh dang that makes sense.. I was always kinda wondering maybe at 21 I wasn’t fully done with puberty because I still had no upper leg hair and I’d shave my face and it would take a week to start coming back in but now it’s stubbled in 5 hours..

Yeah and T peaks at early mid twenties

 

[Seanrutty]

Yeah and T peaks at early mid twenties

So what do you think if I’m not using Bica estro just dutasteride alone would it give me reflex hyperandro since finasteride did?? You’d kinda think if I got it on finasteride 20 years ago and 4 months in now 20 years later I’m still shedding then wouldn’t dutasteride make it literally 10 times worse ??

 

[Adri23]

Idk I've never got such thing and I can't know cause I have no experience with what you call 'reflex hyperandro'

 

[Seanrutty]

It pretty does the exact apposite of what it’s intended to do I’ve seen atleast 50 stories on it there’s some on here with pictures for proof.. the hormones upreguate from being dht being surrprssed .. tons of ppl say nope not real but I’m proof and there’s pics and stories on here.. I still wonder till this day had I never freaked out and touched finasteride would my hair be all here today..

 

[losingbattle88]

What is there is none??

Uhh ppl have tried it with sides. Anything u put on your scalp will go systemic.

 

[Seanrutty]

Uhh ppl have tried it with sides. Anything u put on your scalp will go systemic.

Wonder what would happen if I did finasteride and added topical spikes cream but micro needed the topical spironolactone in

 

[losingbattle88]

Wonder what would happen if I did finasteride and added topical spikes cream but micro needed the topical spironolactone in

Topical spironolactone is weaker than RU and most say it only works if it goes through the liver. I have tried it and its worthless. Dont focus on topical stuff you will be a slave to it and always stand in the mirror daily and apply it while seeing your thinning hair. Just do orals. We both are on oral finasteride and min.